Videos: No wonder they hate us around the world!

Thanks Victor. I've only gotten a few responses from my posts. One was about the horrors of 5mg of mercury in CFL bulbs like that would even come close to comparing it to DU. Then another saying I needed to shut up because the US does so much good around the world. But, hey I'm 46 and just woke up and learned about this stuff a week ago.

I'm still just trying to process all of this and then determine what I need to do personally. For one my hope is for Ron Paul to get in office and that is why I'm here and doing what I doing for that. But another thing I'm thinking about is not receiving any more income thus not having to pay any taxes to support these crimes. I just don't know.

I hear you, I promoted this issue while running on the LP line last year, as a means of connecting with veterans, and was amazed at how much flack I got within the party for bringing up a 'fringe issue.' Good research, Paul should broach the DU subject in interviews and speeches.
 
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm

Professor Yagasaki in the paper on record before this Tribunal presented at the ‘World Uranium Conference Weapons Conference’ in October 2003 ; calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent to 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. The amount of DU used in Iraq is equivalent to 250,000 Nagasaki bombs. Professor Yagasaki affirmed that DU shells are atrocious radioactive weapons which should not be used ; and that DU has a long life of 4.5 billion years remaining in the soil , air ,water in all affected zones .
 
Interesting:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ogc/apparatus/summary.html

Exploiting Suffering: To exploit suffering, Saddam blames starvation and medical crises –
often of his own making – on the United Nations or the United States and its allies. This is
such an effective ruse that the Iraqi regime actually causes or actively ignores hardship and
then aggressively exploits the Iraqi people’s suffering. For the last few years, the Iraqis have
aggressively promoted the false notion that depleted uranium – a substance that is relatively
harmless and was used for armor-piercing munitions during the Gulf War – has caused
cancers and birth defects among Iraqis.
Scientific evidence indicates that any elevated rates
of cancer and birth defects are most likely due to Iraqi use of chemical weapons.

They might need to update their document.
 
theres only one type of round that i know off that the army uses(keyword army) andthat is saber rounds unless i go and chew on the stuff it isnt gonna hurt me
 
I just listened to a great talk by Dr. Doug Rokke, the US Army's Expert on Depleted Uranium:

http://www.radio4all.net/pub/archiv...oo.com/2190-1-20060412-Doug-Rokke-21apr03.mp3

Here is the text form:

http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/Rokke-Depleted-Uranium-DU21apr03.htm

I was reading the above story and what hit me this morning was:

They get the test results back in January 26, 1995, that I personally was excreting uranium at 432 micrograms per liter urine. That's well over 1300 micrograms per day.

So now we have 100,000's of military being infected with uranium and now they are on US soil contaminating the water supply and fish.

I remember reading a story where so many people were taking prozac that it was in the water supply. (Hey maybe this is what is happening to the elections. People are drinking city water and all drugged up?)

People, this doesn't just affect those in other countries. It affects everyone!
 
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http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm

Voices from parents and grandparents in Afghanistan express the tragedy:

"After the Americans destroyed our village and killed many of us, we also lost our houses and have nothing to eat. However, we would have endured these miseries and even accepted them, if the Americans had not sentenced us all to death. When I saw my deformed grandson, I realized that my hopes of the future have vanished for good, different from the hopelessness of the Russian barbarism, even though at that time I lost my older son Shafiqullah. This time, however, I know we are part of the invisible genocide brought on us by America, a silence death from which I know we will not escape."

Jooma Khan of Laghman province, March 2003

"If they had killed us once, it would not be so bad. But what the Americans have brought upon us is not only depriving us but our future generations of our basic god given human right, the right to live. They will be killing us for generations to come"

An Afghan Victim of US-UK bombing


The father of one of the children in Paktia said this about his child:

"When I saw my little boy with those monstrous red tumors, I thought to myself, why is it difficult for Americans to understand that they are hated in our country. If I do this to the child of an American family, that family has the right to pull my eyes out of my eye sockets. I like to tell the Americans that they love to live their lives of luxury at the expense of our extermination."

Assadullah, February 2003

"What else do the Americans want? They killed us, they turned our newborns into horrific deformations, and they turned our farmlands into graveyards and destroyed our homes. On top of all that their planes fly over and spray us with bullets. We have nothing to lose; we will fight against them the same way we fought the previous monster [the former Soviet Union]."

Sa'yed Gharib, April 2003
 
It appears we here in Canada share the shame. I didn't realize until just now and I am unutterably saddened.

DU weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction under international law. Thus Canada may be complicit in the US use of weapons of mass destruction in the 1991 Iraq war I, the 1998 Balkans war, the 2001 war in Afghanistan, and the 2003 Iraq war II, where the British medical journal Lancet estimates that one million civilians have died. In each of these wars, it is likely that depleted uranium in the DU weapons used by the U.S. and the UK comes from Canadian uranium exported to the US and processed in US enrichment plants into depleted uranium and subsequently manufactured into DU weapons.
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http://canadaoutofafghanistan.ca/articles/CanadaAndDepletedUraniumWeapons.html

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"It's largely Canadian uranium that's being used!!

Canada has a policy that its uranium cannot be used in Nuclear Bombs!

That policy does not extend to these DU weapons. So you really have to complain loudly about this !

Canada also sends its uranium down to Paducah, Kentucky to be enriched and it does not ask for the return of the waste. If that waste stays in US for 30 days by US law it becomes US uranium."


Full text of speech: http://www.peace.ca/depleteduranium.htm
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I guess this is all a false alarm :rolleyes: a Lockheed Martin Company did a study and found very little problems with the use of Depleted Uranium.

My favorite recommendation is: "Children should be discouraged from playing in abandoned military vehicles."

I guess this is just an example of a biased report. What do you think?

An Analysis of Uranium
Dispersal and Health Effects
Using a Gulf War Case Study

Prepared by
Sandia National Laboratories
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87185 and Livermore, California 94550
Sandia is a multiprogram laboratory operated by Sandia Corporation,
a Lockheed Martin Company, for the United States Department of Energy’s
National Nuclear Security Administration under Contract DE-AC04-94AL85000.

http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/news-releases/2005/def-nonprolif-sec/snl-dusand.pdf

Conclusions​

• The basic methodology used for this study was determined to be generally valid.
The study findings can be used as a benchmark and a guide for evaluating the validity
of future radioisotope studies.
• No significant radiological health risks are posed by normal handling and processing
of uranium within the weapons complex, if standard safety guidelines are followed.
• Clinical health effects should not result from the chemical toxicity (heavy metal)
effect of uranium, if the implicit limit of 3 μg U/g kidney is not exceeded. Although
an exposed individual is unlikely to become ill at this maximum permitted kidney
burden, transient indicators of renal dysfunction are possible.
• Claims of significant increases in cancers for DU-exposed veterans and significant
increases in birth defects for their progeny are not supported by the study findings.
• Only a few veterans are predicted to incur about a 1% lung cancer risk from DU
exposure. Also, these veterans may have experienced transient kidney damage.
• Health risks for most DU-exposed veterans are predicted to be very small.
• Soft tissue sarcomas at the location of embedded fragments and chemically induced
neurotoxic effects cannot be ruled out; however, major neurotoxic effects are unlikely.
• The highest health risk for civilians was for children playing in DU-contaminated
vehicles. The nominal radiation-induced fatal cancer risk for these children was 0.1%.
• Health risks for Iraqi civilians are predicted to be very small, and claims of
observable increases in leukemia and birth defects from DU exposure are not
supported by this study.
• External radiation doses from DU are generally very small.

Recommendations​

• Weapons complex guidelines for chemical toxicity from uranium exposure should be
reexamined to determine if they are consistent with recent findings and basic
protection standards.
• Screening and treatment should be provided for Level I DU-exposed veterans.
• Monitoring should be continued for veterans who received significant inhalation
doses or retain embedded DU fragments.
• Military personnel should be instructed to take reasonable actions when in vehicles
hit by DU penetrators (e.g., using the vehicle ventilation system or exiting quickly).
• Children should be discouraged from playing in abandoned military vehicles.
• Basic research on possible chemically induced DU health effects should be continued.
• Post-battle monitoring of the environment and nearby civilians is recommended.
 
jst mike......appreciate your role in highlighting these crimes.....the problem with all this as an american would be is that our public is so brainwashed about our county being the bastion of virtue and the spreader of "good" while the whole world is barbaric and "evil".....

if you would talk about this to another american .....if they were a conservative they would label you as a liberal tree hugging idiot and totally looking over the facts you present.....they just cannot handel the truth and will make any silly pretext to discredit you.....while the other side would actually say this...."if we don't do this their they will come here on our soil and do this".....either way you come out feeling sick and tired of the general lack of concern....

again mike...commendable....and the reason why I lke ron is not much b/c of his policies persay but b/c of the depth of knowledge and understanding his supproters have....except for maybe the guys saying that vaccines are "evil" down in the healthcare section.....

btw you should try telling these facts to a random fellow american ....i would love to hear what their response is...
 
I have viewed and read through a great deal of the material offered here. It confirms some things I have suspected for some time and is indeed apalling.

I have said before and now repeat, we have seen the beast and are horrified to discover that the beast is us.

My son is home from Iraq and so far no physical/biological manifestations of concern, just a physical injury and some emotional issues. But I have afriend whose son is there and I have tried to convince her in many ways why Dr. Ron Paul is the right choice. Now I think I may have a much more convincing argument next time we talk.

When I was young, we protested the Vietnam war and we learned later of Agent Orange and other serious problems that affected our soldiers. Soldiers then came home to boos and derision and hatred from many Americans and had to hide their service. They were wrongfully shamed and blamed for what our leaders were doing. They also were drafted.

Fortunately, today people seem to be a lot more tolerant toward our soldiers, but unfortunately, also, tolerant of these awful wars perpetrated by our leaders. Our soldiers are still denied the truth and proper care for their sacrifices.

Thank you all for your input here. It is something every American should see.
 
Thanks American Empire and Carole for taking the time to look through this thread. The information posted here has been useful for me also to document my discoveries.

Hey there was some good news the other day for those in Wisconsin:

http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080210/APC0101/802100654/1003/APC01

Vets to learn of dangers

A bill aimed at informing military veterans about the dangers of depleted uranium has become law.

The legislation, authored by state Rep. Tom Nelson, D-Kaukauna, was signed by Gov. Jim Doyle on Friday.

"With the governor's approval, Wisconsin is now a national leader in addressing depleted uranium contamination and protecting our soldiers," Nelson said in a press release. "AB 75 is the most comprehensive state law on the books. It will ensure that our veterans receive the assistance they deserve."

According to Nelson, depleted uranium is used in munitions in military conflicts and evidence indicates soldiers exposed to contamination are increased risk of biogenetic effects.

"Thirty years ago, returning Vietnam veterans were reporting symptoms that were later found to be caused by Agent Orange," Nelson said. "Today's veterans are reporting similar life-threatening medical symptoms, caused not by Agent Orange but by another substance, depleted uranium."

Here is a link to AB75

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2007/data/AB-75.pdf

I think that as more people learn about this the more States will pass similar bills.
 
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