[VIDEO] ~ Was this cop justified in punching this girl in the face?

[Reason]

Yes/No

YouTube - Cop Punches Teen Girl In The Face Over Jaywalking Incident

 

[t0rnado]

Cops deserve to get the shit beaten out of them just for being wastes of tax money. Their mere existence is funded by theft. This cop was not justified in hitting someone who probably paid for his job.

 

[Reason]

Cops deserve to get the shit beaten out of them just for being wastes of tax money. Their mere existence is funded by theft. This cop was not justified in hitting someone who probably paid for his job.

How do address the girls' actions?

 

[jsu718]

Normally I would agree... I hate cops as much as anyone... but she took a swing at him while he was already dealing with someone that was resisting aggressively. Can't fault him for defending himself.

 

[Kregisen]

Cops deserve to get the shit beaten out of them just for being wastes of tax money. Their mere existence is funded by theft. This cop was not justified in hitting someone who probably paid for his job.

Not all cops are a waste of tax money. Cops are needed however many abuse their power, and the punch here may have been justified, but it was unnecessary.

A jaywalking incident should never be a big issue....something like a warning should occur, so just the fact that this whole thing came out of something so small is bad in itself.

They were fighting back so they deserved what they got, though like I said, that punch wasn't necessary.

 

[nate895]

This is what happens when you have stupid crimes like jaywalking that are there merely to provide revenue streams for the state. The cops become overbearing in those cases because they are taught to deal with hardened criminals, when the average traffic/small infraction offender is simply an everyday citizen just trying to go about his/her daily business a bit faster, and yet they get treated like a common criminal worthy of all contempt. The party to blame here is not the officer or the accused, for both seem justified in their own ways, but rather the invisible third party: The People's Republic of King County.

 

[orenbus]

Normally I would agree... I hate cops as much as anyone... but she took a swing at him while he was already dealing with someone that was resisting aggressively. Can't fault him for defending himself.

For some reason that video reminds me of this video, I think probably because some will call (what the black lady in the above video and the white guy with the video camera in the below video do) a shove others will call it a swing. In both cases though I agree it is assault.

YouTube - NC Tea Party Member Punched

 

[t0rnado]

How do address the girls' actions?

Attempting to prevent some thug in a costume from kidnapping her.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Fuck no.

Also I'll be honest giving someone a ticket for jaywalking is just the cop trying to be a dick. And it wouldn't shock me if it was racially motivated. I know too many black kids who get a ticket for what is not a real crime.

 

[AutoDas]

Fuck no.

Also I'll be honest giving someone a ticket for jaywalking is just the cop trying to be a dick. And it wouldn't shock me if it was racially motivated. I know too many black kids who get a ticket for what is not a real crime.

Yeah, only whites can be racially motivated. Thanks BlackTerrel.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Yeah, only whites can be racially motivated. Thanks BlackTerrel.

Don't put words in my mouth. People of all races can be racist and most people (thankfully) are not.

Here we have a white cop who goes to MLK boulevard which is probably the black part of town and starts handing out jaywalking tickets. Racially motivated? Maybe, maybe not.

But put it this way. I have black friends and white friends. Both groups jaywalk, blacks seem to get far more tickets for this bullshit "crime" than whites. It does not mean that they are all racially motivated, but clearly some of them are. The numbers are too disproportionate for it to be a coincidence.

 

[Kludge]

Hard to answer. The policeman acted like policemen should when his government´s authority is threatened. The individuals acted like individuals should when government fails at producing enough repression in its citizenry. Gov´t ought to be producing war propaganda to inspire nationalism, IMO.

 

[Promontorium]

Punching is strangely emotionally evocative. If he had simply pushed her away, it might have been obvious that she was the aggressor and that he had no recourse. On the other hand, I've seen people proudly support police clubbing citizens with batons. Let me say, if he had batoned her, the police and any subsequent authority would find it just. There is an official and legal expectation that law enforecement may perform its job without being attacked. If the arrest is on false pretences, official recourse is available and need not be violent. It has been established long ago that law enforecement may always respond to force with a higher level of force, above physical attack would be oc spray or a baton.


Aside from this, I too find it disturbing to watch. I also want to see what happened before.


I would like to hear any ideas the anarchist has about replacing police. If you believe there should be absolutely no government, that's not really my interest. I am trying to develop a model that could effectively replace police with duties spread to other "authorities". For example, if you have a serial killer, an investigator and forensics are beneficial to no one person, but all people who fit the killer's target profile. I see no individuals rational method of catching a serial killer, it would require professionals, and although they could be privately funded, if they don't have any authority to investigate, they would never solve the crimes.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I used to think Seattle would be a cool place to live. oh well...

 

[noxagol]

Arresting someone over jaywalking?! Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[newbitech]

teenagers... this bully cop probably doesnt have any brothers growing up so he feels like taking swings at girls is ok. the report says he was arresting a guy, guess the guy was too tough for him to handle..

 

[jsu718]

Fuck no.

Also I'll be honest giving someone a ticket for jaywalking is just the cop trying to be a dick. And it wouldn't shock me if it was racially motivated. I know too many black kids who get a ticket for what is not a real crime.

Has nothing to do with race. My answer to this, which was yes, had to do with what I would have done in the same situation. I would absolutely take a swing at someone else that was acting that way, regardless of race. It is essentially a matter of self defense on both sides, and the way the law sits right now people don't really have a right to defend themselves against cops. As much as I hate that aspect of the law and would fight it in every way possible outside of physical violence myself, both sides here were equally at fault unless the jaywalking was real.

 

[newbitech]

Has nothing to do with race. My answer to this, which was yes, had to do with what I would have done in the same situation. I would absolutely take a swing at someone else that was acting that way, regardless of race. It is essentially a matter of self defense on both sides, and the way the law sits right now people don't really have a right to defend themselves against cops. As much as I hate that aspect of the law and would fight it in every way possible outside of physical violence myself, both sides here were equally at fault unless the jaywalking was real.

really? You'd be in the same situation as this jack boot? Take a swing at someone who was acting what way? Getting loud? Seems to me like the cop decided to get out at the wrong corner to harass a (man) sorry a teenager for WALKING and some others decided to voice their opinions about the ridiculousness of his "enforcement" actions. It is not self defense on the cops side because he is the one who got out of the car to approach the crowd.

The cop physically put himself in the middle of that crowd "putting his life on the line" to make sure a grown man (sorry again, a teenager and apparently now a group of teenagers) could make it safely across the street on their own. So what, now we pay crossing guards to assault people? Sounds pretty ridiculous no? Well apparently the crowd thought so, and VOICED their opinions. So instead of calling for back up or attempting to calm the situation what does he do? He further engages himself by attempting to effect an arrest on a teenage girl. He is obviously causing pain to the girl in the blue who is doing what everyone does when a cop puts you in a wrist lock and tried to relieve the pressure point of his martial arts tactic on her arm. Her friend very bravely decided to try separate the aggressor from the victim and rather than backing off, this cop decided to use escalated force to reassert himself as the man in charge by attacking yet another person.

The only good thing I can say about this cop is that at least he didn't pull his taser out an electrocute anyone. But, as many times as I have tried to have something good to say about a cop, it always seems to fail and I find some other piece of evidence provided by the cops that prove me guilty of having any hope that common sense is something that a cop takes to work with him along with his shiny badge and gun.

I find no fault in anyone who will defend themselves in this manner from cops. Sure experience teaches us to live to fight another day, and because of the effectiveness of this cop, many more will be frightened by their presence. But these are kids. Go into any crowd of kids and starting acting like a fucking prick and putting your hands on people and you'd probably get treated the same way, YELLED AT.

If you think you would have done the same thing in this situation, you might want go back and listen to the audio of this report without watching the incomplete video. These were a bunch of young kids this cop was harassing. Think through this situation for a minute before you say that you'd do the same thing, or that the cop was acting out of self-defense.

What gives you or anyone else the right to put your hands on someone who doesn't want to be touched by you or this cop? Nothing gives you that right nor the cop. Because it is not your right. This is something we all hopefully learned in grade school at the same time we were learning that cops are allowed to get away with enacting violence as a means of ensuring obedience.

Cops, you guys need to go back and relearn this lesson so the next time you won't be surprised and caught off guard when someone VERBALLY defends themselves and friends from idiot laws and then proceeds to rip you a new asshole for being the scum sucking gutter slut that you love to be.

No. The cop was never justified in putting his hands on anyone in this video or incident.

 

[anaconda]

I watched it four times and I think the cop had justification. I just wish the girl had hit him harder the first time. Cops offend me with their very existence. Perhaps he was being an asshole in the first place and provoked the whole episode. I would love to see a tape of the whole incident.

 

[Travlyr]

Arresting someone over jaywalking?! Are you fucking kidding me?

Nope, not kidding. Stupid, stupid shit. Last week a raft guide was arrested for swimming across the river. Stupid, stupid shit going on in our world.