Video update - Ron Paul introduces bill to repeal NDAA indefinite detention provisions

Yeah, this is just little 5 minute speeches. From what I saw, Paul was the only one talking substance. Others were giving speeches about Alabama football and friendly bets they made on the game. WTF.
 
kylejack said:
Yeah, this is just little 5 minute speeches. From what I saw, Paul was the only one talking substance. Others were giving speeches about Alabama football and friendly bets they made on the game. WTF.
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Economy in shambles, endless wars going on, debt racking up 100 billion a month, civil liberties being trampled more and more every day, but who cares?! Lets talk about football!
 
kylejack said:
Yeah, this is just little 5 minute speeches. From what I saw, Paul was the only one talking substance. Others were giving speeches about Alabama football and friendly bets they made on the game. WTF.
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Someone should YouTube that...ugh
 
Mr. Speaker: I rise today to introduce a very simple piece of legislation to repeal the infamous Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act, quietly signed into law by the president on New Year’s Day.

Section 1021 essentially codifies into law the very dubious claim of presidential authority under the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force to indefinitely detain American citizens without access to legal representation or due process of law. Section 1021 provides for the possibility of the US military acting as a kind of police force on US soil, apprehending terror suspects – including Americans -- and whisking them off to an undisclosed location indefinitely. No right to attorney, no right to trial, no day in court.

This is precisely the kind of egregious distortion of justice that Americans have always ridiculed in so many dictatorships overseas. A great man named Solzhenitsyn became the hero of so many of us when he exposed the Soviet Union’s extensive gulag system. Is this really the kind of United States we want to create in the name of fighting terrorism?

Some have argued that nothing in Section 1021 explicitly mandates holding Americans without trial, but it employs vague language radically expanding the detention authority to include anyone who has “substantially supported” certain terrorist groups or “associated forces.” No one has defined what those two terms mean. What is an “associated force”?

Sadly, too many of my colleagues are too willing to undermine our Constitution to support such outrageous legislation. One senator even said about American citizens picked up under this section of the NDAA, “When they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them, ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer.'" Is this acceptable in someone one who has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution?

Mr. Speaker, of course I recognize how critical it is that we identify and apprehend those who are suspected of plotting attacks against Americans. But why do we have so little faith in our justice system? Have we not tried in civilian court and won convictions of hundreds of individuals for terrorist or related activities? I fully support our continuing to do so, but let us not abandon what is so unique and special about our system of government in the process.

I hope my colleagues will join my effort to overturn the shameful Section 1021.
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http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opt...r-fiscal-year-2012&catid=16:speeches&Itemid=1
 
Awesome. I hope someone gets the video footage. I just love thinking of what it must be like for Ron walking around in the halls of Congress right now in the middle of the campaign trail. Ron Paul was once a lone soldier in Congress who was ignored or even unknown to almost all of his colleagues. Now he is one of the most famous people in the house with the most dedicated group of supporters. I can only imagine what the rest of the buffoons in Congress think when they see him walk by in the halls or give a speech on the house floor, especially the ones who have been there for many terms. They must all secretly look up to Ron Paul and have a ton of respect for him, even though they will never come out and show it.
 
matt0611 said:
Economy in shambles, endless wars going on, debt racking up 100 billion a month, civil liberties being trampled more and more every day, but who cares?! Lets talk about football!
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Personally I think it's disgusting. I work in management at a local car wash here in South Carolina, so I get to hear what a lot of my customers listen to.


1. Hit music

2. Sports radio

3. Limbaugh/Hannity/O'Reilly/Beck

But hell, to each their own I guess..the trends are astonishing though.

I haven't listened to the radio in probably 6 months, CD's/Ipod ftw
 
I believe striking 1021 would render moot the other provisions. 1021 is the umbrella under which the civil liberties violations would occur.
 
Missed the vid, read the text. Thanks Kylejack.

Nothing too surprising in there. Doing what they all should be doing, but too many aren't.
 
Sounds like Obama is already using NDAA. Just heard on the ap news that Obama is going after anyone they deem extreme and those who are preaching supposed violence. He ask that the local authorities to take the leaf in this and if I heard correctly arrest them. Supposedly, Obama has also labeled the tea party as extremist.
 
I'd like to know who the bastard is who said "shut up. you don't get a lawyer". that sumbitch needs to be found in public and have his knee caps crushed with a bat!
 
Expose The Foes said:
I'd like to know who the bastard is who said "shut up. you don't get a lawyer". that sumbitch needs to be found in public and have his knee caps crushed with a bat!
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I believe it was Sen. Lindsey Graham from the great state of South Carolina. We need to support Tom Davis to get Graham out of there.

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Expose The Foes said:
I'd like to know who the bastard is who said "shut up. you don't get a lawyer". that sumbitch needs to be found in public and have his knee caps crushed with a bat!
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I condemn your call for violence, even against douchebags like Lindsay Graham. But that's who it was that said it. And who's surprised?

At worst I think he should be arrested and held in Guantanamo for a few days. And if he asks what the charge is and demands to see a lawyer, he should be told, "Shut up! You don't get a lawyer!"
 
Great speech:



RP seemed a bit fired up, probably as a result of his rock star-status on the campaign trail :)
 
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