Video update - Rand Paul on Fox News with Frank Luntz focus group 1/8/12

[blazeKing]

He's gonna be President some day

 

[zHorns]

I thought he did a great job!

I think some of you need to give him a break.

 

[Student Of Paulism]

He's gonna be President some day

Yea, i have come to really enjoy listen to ran speak, he is very skilled in that area, for sure. How about FOX being fair to Ron lately too the last couple of weeks? I mean, yea, by no means am i saying they are saints lol, but fuck, they have been saints when you compare them to CNN lately. CNN has just been brutal.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I said I'm not going to give him any of my hard-earned money.

Pfffft. Whatever. You know you will.

 

[kylejack]

Not a chance in hell.

 

[LiveForHonortune]

Why are the people so stupid about understanding Paul's foreign policy?

 

[kylejack]

Why are the people so stupid about understanding Paul's foreign policy?

Many years of propaganda and being taught that the United States is the benevolent father figure trying to raise the world to be good and just.

 

[otherone]

Cold War Fear left over.

 

[KingNothing]

Why are the people so stupid about understanding Paul's foreign policy?

What luck for leaders that men do not think. It's why they blindly accepted, demanded even, the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq, on Drugs, on Terror, on Poverty. People hear rhetoric based on fear and respond. Leaders take advantage of it. What a shame.

 

[Eric21ND]

That's the average brainless American on display right there.

 

[otherone]

What luck for leaders that men do not think. It's why they blindly accepted, demanded even, the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq, on Drugs, on Terror, on Poverty. People hear rhetoric based on fear and respond. Leaders take advantage of it. What a shame.

Don't forget Michele's War on Fat Kids.

 

[NoPants]

Glad I got to see the video. I thought he had a strong finish with separation of powers and last time united as a nation and declared war. It makes the point in an understandable way and relieves some of the unwarranted fear of Paul's foreign policy we so often lose votes over.

 

[SilentBull]

Rand would be crushing everyone right now if he were running.

 

[Varin]

Rand would be crushing everyone right now if he were running.

This

 

[tremendoustie]

I seriously don't get/understand why people on here get angry at Rand.

It really does bother me.

Sanctions are in no way moral, or acceptable. They cause incalculable damage, and he voted for them. It's not rocket science.

The man's no Ron Paul, but he's better than most of the other jokers, I'll give you that.

 

[teacherone]

guess we can't say FU Frank anymore

 

[Student Of Paulism]

(your post about Rand)

+1 on that, and great insight there. Basically i feel the same way when comparing Ron and Rand.

Very true about the Founders as well, they weren't perfect and no one is, after all. Alexander Hamilton did a lot of shady crap, hell, you can even say he was sorta like the 'Newt Gingrich' of his time (ok not THAT bad lol), but he had affairs, was pro-central banking, and even tried to rig an election to stop TJ from winning. The 75% to 25% works fine for me. If you can keep that scale of liberty tipped in the + side of things, more than the - side, well what more could you want then, right?

Excellent point on the sanctions with Rand too. He knows how to play the game, in some areas, maybe a touch better than Ron. It sucked to watch all the no-hands when Frank asked about the FP issues. Yes, people are uninformed so badly and just flat out stupid in why they can't understand it (tons of factors for that, wont bother getting into it), but yet they love his economic policies. Hell, even most major neocons do. What they sadly can't seem to get, is that YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. Our current FP and the endless warring and nation building, WILL NOT ALLOW for those economic policies to take place. It is beyond me why they cant see this. We will be 100x worse off going the route of Romney or Santorum

I often question sometimes the 'what if' factor about Ron. I wonder if maybe he just 'gave a little bit' in an area or two, without going too far outside his core principle beliefs. I mean, like give the neocons 'something'. Just something that they can work with so he wouldn't be smothered by them so much. Maybe not dump foreign aid altogether, but LOWER IT quite a bit. This would at least not alienate all the pro-israel people so much. Maybe agree to stay in the UN/NATO, but to be clear that we don't take orders from them, rather than leave them completely.

Meh...i dunno, but we all know how politics work, guys. You gotta give a little bit sometimes, and in this area, you have to admit, Ron falters badly.

Jan Mickelson made a great point when i called into his show some weeks back, and i was irate about Bachmann calling herself so conservative and xtian, yet she wants to blow everyone up around the globe. I was going on about why people like her and the voters tied to her can't understand Ron's FP and how catastrophic things will become if we stay on this same path, and he made a great point about all the evangelicals in IA. He said they basically make up close to 60% of the population there, and that, yes, ISRAEL IS A HUGE DEAL TO THEM, for several profound reasons, one being the effect it has on the political landscape and marketplace, as well as eschatological reasons. He said whether we agree with that or not and that it shouldn't have any bearing at all, the fact is, IT DOES, and there reallly isn't a thing you can do about it.

 

[ronpaulitician]

This makes it pretty clear. The ad that is needed is one where Paul explains his view on war.

Congress ought to declare it.
The president ought to instruct the troops/generals to wage it.
Clear directives.
Win.
Come home.

 

[Jingles]

Wow, did I just watch Frank Luntz do a fair piece?

He must see the writing on the wall.

 

[robskicks]

if ron paul gave in to the establishment even a little bit, i would not support ron paul like i do.