[Video] Thomas Massie Questions Jonathan Gruber at Oversight Hearing 12/9/14
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Can someone educate me on what purpose these hearings serve except for the Congressmen to shout at the person testifying? Does this have any legal standing? It's not like they can sentence the person or bring any sort of legal action, right?
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The guy has been fired from 2 consulting gigs over the ACA video remarks and I'd say his days at MIT are limited.
It's also educating the public and a nail in the coffin of Obamacare.
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Hearings are a matter of public record so this also serves as a way of getting the person testifying to take a public stand on issues. Massie gave Gruber the choice between disavowing his statements in support of social engineering in his past work, or affirming that he believes that social engineering is justifiable. Brilliant.
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If you missed it, it's up on the C-SPAN website now:
http://www.c-span.org/video/?323115...ruber-marilyn-tavenner-health-care-enrollment
One rep nailed it:
Before obamacare 49 million people didn't have health insurance
after the law 6.9 million enrolled
4 million lost their employer sponsored health care (and many lost FT jobs becoming part time workers or laid off due to it)
most people had their premiums double or worse
most people had their deductibles quadruple
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http://www.c-span.org/video/?323115...ruber-marilyn-tavenner-health-care-enrollment
One rep nailed it:
Before obamacare 49 million people didn't have health insurance
after the law 6.9 million enrolled
4 million lost their employer sponsored health care (and many lost FT jobs becoming part time workers or laid off due to it)
most people had their premiums double or worse
most people had their deductibles quadruple
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The exchange starting @7:21 is interesting and telling
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What?! How can you even ask such silly questions?
Don't you remember what a great job they did on the IRS email scandal?
Have you forgotten how effectively they dealt with that problem before moving on to other matters?
Oh, wait ...
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The Gov't is supposed to keep elderly people alive no matter what the cost? Oh no, should we "let them die?"
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I guess somebody needs to tell Massie he was just grandstanding.
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I'm sure he already knows.
Grandstanding has its uses, as far as it goes - which is fortunate, because it's about the only thing that Congress has the teeth for ...
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WOW! Incredibly good!
Something rare you will never hear from me: I think my tax dollars were well spent this morning!
Something rarer: I think I'm going to re-watch a 4+ hour congressional hearing again tonight...
The last hour was really good. Go to 3:35:00 - anyone know who the woman in the green dress, black leggings, blue blazer, pearls and mousy brown hair is? Sitting behind the witnesses. I think there might be a letter of resignation or divorce papers served tomm...
The only thing that could have happened better is if 2 witnesses had been lead out in cuffs under charges of contempt of Congress!
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Something rare you will never hear from me: I think my tax dollars were well spent this morning!
Something rarer: I think I'm going to re-watch a 4+ hour congressional hearing again tonight...
The last hour was really good. Go to 3:35:00 - anyone know who the woman in the green dress, black leggings, blue blazer, pearls and mousy brown hair is? Sitting behind the witnesses. I think there might be a letter of resignation or divorce papers served tomm...
The only thing that could have happened better is if 2 witnesses had been lead out in cuffs under charges of contempt of Congress!
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It helps to watch more than once and for different things.
At the beginning of the hearing, when informed, the HHS lady was accosted with - we subpoenaed you and it was due 6 days ago. At which point her 2 advisers went jaw drop, Bambi eyes, WTF mode looking at each other.
Third hr? e-mail stream. She had threatened to fire or destroy her #2 if things didn't roll out on schedule.
Pointed out that her answers were cooperative if asked by a dem. stonewalled if asked by a repub. actually both of them.
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At the beginning of the hearing, when informed, the HHS lady was accosted with - we subpoenaed you and it was due 6 days ago. At which point her 2 advisers went jaw drop, Bambi eyes, WTF mode looking at each other.
Third hr? e-mail stream. She had threatened to fire or destroy her #2 if things didn't roll out on schedule.
Pointed out that her answers were cooperative if asked by a dem. stonewalled if asked by a repub. actually both of them.
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