Video Shows Cleveland Cop Shot Boy Immediately After Exiting Moving Car

[SeanTX]

Rookie mistake ... That and they can blame the dispatcher -- as if it being reported as "possibly a toy" would matter.

The same thing happened with the kid carrying the airsoft rifle in California -- the deputy immediately opened fire as soon as he got out of his vehicle. And he was "cleared of wrongdoing" -- of course.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/inde...d_police_officer_shot_1.html#incart_big-photo

Cleveland police officer shot Tamir Rice immediately after leaving moving patrol car

November 26, 2014 at 1:35 PM, updated November 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM


CLEVELAND, Ohio – A Cleveland police officer fatally shot Tamir Rice immediately after leaving his moving patrol car while his partner stayed at the wheel, surveillance video shows.

The video showed Wednesday by police captures the Saturday afternoon shooting at a West Side recreation center in which 12-year-old Rice was shot.

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A rookie officer pulled the trigger, said Jeffrey Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association.

Police were sent to the Cudell Recreation Center at Detroit Avenue and West Boulevard about 3:30 p.m. when someone called 9-1-1 to report a "guy with a gun pointing it at people."

The caller told dispatchers twice that the gun was "probably fake," but that detail was not relayed to the responding officers, Follmer said.

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[JK/SEA]

but..but..but..

we were told there were 'commands' to do 'something' like drop the gun, get on the ground, quit resisting, drop the gun, say mother may i...tell me you love me...get on the ground...fuck it...shoot the punk, i'm in a bad mood today...

 

[ZENemy]

 

[aGameOfThrones]

That Right there is a Murder on Video. I hope the person who called feels safer.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Thought he was a gangster. Pretty common with the youth.

Hadn't yet realized a bigger gang with the full backing of the government will shoot you for trivial reasons. On that note though, they wouldn't have pulled up as they did if they thought for a second that that gun was real.

 

[brushfire]

That Right there is a Murder on Video. I hope the person who called feels safer.

Maybe the boy was acting "Real dodgeddy"

 

[Mani]

OK. I actually missed it the first time I saw the video.

Because I was expecting the officers to jump out of the car, shout, take positions and then fire....And the cops did do that after the car stopped. They did get out of the car and take up precautionary positions...ANd I was wondering..Why is the kid already on the ground, did he slip on the snow, when are they going to shoot him?


Then I RE-WATCHED it (around 7:10 or 7:15) and holy shit. The car is still moving and the cop fires pretty much the second he's stepping out of the car. It will like a drive-by shooting.

Seriously, it looked a lot more like a drive-by shooting...except then they pull over.

I don't see how anyone person can react in that time frame.



SO I rewatched it again. 7:12 the cop exits the vehicle with his hands in firing position. 7:13 the kid falls down dead. 7:14 the cop falls on his ass.


I'm not sure how the cops let this video surface. This should have disappeared mysteriously because it's pretty damning. Anyway, it won't matter at the end of the day the cop feared for his safety.



Damn. That kid died within 1 second of encountering a cop. Literally within 1 second of seeing a cop he was dead.

 

[Mani]

Interesting comment by a supposed cop on the comments:

I'm a police officer here in Florida. No way we would pull up so close to someone we believed to be armed with a handgun. At least I know I wouldn't. That situation I would have stopped a safe distance away and challenged the kid from behind cover. Don't know what kind of training Cleveland cops have!!! So sorry for that kid and his family.



So if the cops thought the kid was armed an dangerous, they wouldn't pull up 3 feet away from him...

 

[TheTexan]

You gotta admit though, that was some pretty good tactical driving. And in the snow? And hitting a target from a moving vehicle?

I would say it's "tacticool" but I wouldn't want to detract from the seriousness of how actually good their training must be.

 

[The Bavarian]

Do you feel lucky, punk?

 

[juleswin]

OK. I actually missed it the first time I saw the video.

Because I was expecting the officers to jump out of the car, shout, take positions and then fire....And the cops did do that after the car stopped. They did get out of the car and take up precautionary positions...ANd I was wondering..Why is the kid already on the ground, did he slip on the snow, when are they going to shoot him?


Then I RE-WATCHED it (around 7:10 or 7:15) and holy shit. The car is still moving and the cop fires pretty much the second he's stepping out of the car. It will like a drive-by shooting.

Seriously, it looked a lot more like a drive-by shooting...except then they pull over.

I don't see how anyone person can react in that time frame.



SO I rewatched it again. 7:12 the cop exits the vehicle with his hands in firing position. 7:13 the kid falls down dead. 7:14 the cop falls on his ass.


I'm not sure how the cops let this video surface. This should have disappeared mysteriously because it's pretty damning. Anyway, it won't matter at the end of the day the cop feared for his safety.



Damn. That kid died within 1 second of encountering a cop. Literally within 1 second of seeing a cop he was dead.

I wonder if Stephan "the confused anarchist" Molyneux makes another video extolling the grand determination of the grand jury after this cop is found to have done nothing wrong. He will do this by tell the viewers that somehow because they had x number of minorities and still found nothing wrong with the action of the cop, that somehow that means everything was in order. Sorta reminds me of my liberal friend who tell me that Obamacare must be constitutional since it passed the test with a supreme court that had a conservative majority.

 

[Mani]

Do you feel lucky, punk?

In the 1 second it took the cop to kill the kid while jumping out of the vehicle I don't think the cop had time to say even that much...

 

[Antischism]

I wonder if Stephan "the confused anarchist" Molyneux makes another video extolling the grand determination of the grand jury after this cop is found to have done nothing wrong. He will do this by tell the viewers that somehow because they had x number of minorities and still found nothing wrong with the action of the cop, that somehow that means everything was in order. Sorta reminds me of my liberal friend who tell me that Obamacare must be constitutional since it passed the test with a supreme court that had a conservative majority.

I don't think anyone should take Stephan Molyneux seriously about... well, anything. If he makes a good point about anything at all, you can always find it said in a better way from much more reliable sources.

As for the video, that looks like plain murder to me.

 

[limequat]

In the 1 second it took the cop to kill the kid while jumping out of the vehicle I don't think the cop had time to say even that much...

But he had time to instruct him to drop the weapon 3 times. Bullshit.

 

[presence]

I had to do some conversions to make this work; quality may have suffered, but here's a tube:

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I had to do some conversions to make this work; quality may have suffered, but here's a tube:

Do you have a link to an original video that has sound? (the one I watched didn't)

Also, the portion cut out is kind of important.

Yes, it is obvious that the cops had a near certainty that the toy was a toy. They wouldn't have pulled up as they did else wise. What isn't shown in the video you've provided is the child pointing a realistic weapon at people walking by and in general acting like a punk.

Not that that deserves what occurred.

 

[Cissy]

Do you have a link to an original video that has sound? (the one I watched didn't)

Also, the portion cut out is kind of important.

Yes, it is obvious that the cops had a near certainty that the toy was a toy. They wouldn't have pulled up as they did else wise. What isn't shown in the video you've provided is the child pointing a realistic weapon at people walking by and in general acting like a punk.

Not that that deserves what occurred.

Which is why kids need parents to step into their lives and discipline their children. Kids and teens will do stupid things---it's part of the maturation process. A parent's job is to give their children consequences for stupidity so that the child doesn't need to receive more serious consequences for doing stupid things as an adult.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Which is why kids need parents to step into their lives and discipline their children. Kids and teens will do stupid things---it's part of the maturation process. A parent's job is to give their children consequences for stupidity so that the child doesn't need to receive more serious consequences for doing stupid things as an adult.

Of course. The certain influences of that city, and many in that region cannot be overlooked.

The cop was not in the right executing the child as they did. They certainly knew the 'gun' was not a gun. The way they drove straight up, ignoring any aspect of reason, or of respecting property, or of deescalation is telling of that region. I've seen them drive over curbs to porches for trivial reasons... looking for someone who has long left.

Growing up as many do, having influences as they do... everyone wants to be a gangster.

Watching the video, it is quite clear he was a little confused, acting like a punk (and they're a dime a dozen in any metropolitan).

Another member said it best with regards to government sanctioned edicts affecting the community negatively, said actors, or policemen, etc. exacerbating an issue simply following orders and the tragedy that results. It's a multifaceted issue.

 

[cindy25]

this is so different from Ferguson. I think they will indict. how Kasich handles this could effect his chances for the nomination

 

[presence]

Do you have a link to an original video that has sound? (the one I watched didn't)

Also, the portion cut out is kind of important.

Yes, it is obvious that the cops had a near certainty that the toy was a toy. They wouldn't have pulled up as they did else wise. What isn't shown in the video you've provided is the child pointing a realistic weapon at people walking by and in general acting like a punk.

Not that that deserves what occurred.

The original did not have sound,

The video contains no audio.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/inde...d_police_officer_shot_1.html#incart_big-photo


you can view it here::

http://videos.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/2014/11/full_surveillance_video_captur.html

I converted that to MP4, then MP4 upload to youtube

I did it in HD, it was 13mb

The free conversion utility I used maxed out at 1 minute of conversion