[Video] Rand Paul vs. John Kerry at Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Syria 9/3/13

Even though they are trying to hold back their real plans, Hagel and Kerry have made it obvious they want a full on war for regime change.
 
Is it me or does this look staged.At this point they are basically apologizing for even having this meeting.

They are arguing that they should not even be consulted .
 
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Wow, Flake sounds no different from McCain these days...this is not the same Jeff Flake that voted against Libya in 2011.
 
They will cobble together enough establishment house votes in both the republican and democrat sections, similar to what transpired with the Amash NSA bill. It will be close, but the establishment will not leave Obama to die on the vine. No way.
A closer parody would be John Boehner's Bill to keep the war machine going in Libya. As witnessed, the 'No Fly Zone' turned out to be, bombing the country, destroying the military and infrastructure, and assassinating the government. Then Benghazi, Libya was turned into a Syrian rebel recruitment, training, and arming base, prior to shipment to Syria.
 
Even though they are trying to hold back their real plans, Hagel and Kerry have made it obvious they want a full on war for regime change.

These guys know that bullies lose their power the second they backdown. They keep talking about how all our flunkie nations will stop being our "ally" if we don't beat up on the slow kid.
 
They will cobble together enough establishment house votes in both the republican and democrat sections, similar to what transpired with the Amash NSA bill. It will be close, but the establishment will not leave Obama to die on the vine. No way.

The only question will be how much the American people push back on this.
 
Has Rand been on yet?

No I think they go by this list:

Menendez
Corker

Barbara Boxer
James E. Risch
Benjamin L. Cardin
Marco Rubio
Jeanne Shaheen
Ron Johnson
Christopher Coons
Jeff Flake
Richard J. Durbin
John McCain
Tom Udall
John Barrasso
Chris Murphy
Rand Paul
Tim Kaine
Edward J. Markey
 
Even though they are trying to hold back their real plans, Hagel and Kerry have made it obvious they want a full on war for regime change.

That's obvious. They want to get sucked in and are leaving the door open to a full on invasion
 
The only question will be how much the American people push back on this.

I think that's the whole point of this discussion we're listening to now. Has been a monumental step in getting the attention of enough people to force congressional discussion on these issues and that is push back in and of itself. Seems like they are making a mockery of it here. Or attempting to do that. Down the road we'll certainly hear the old tried and true analogy of "Oh...congress agreed last time so why bother?"
 
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This guy was the Republican nominee in 2008. Every time I see him on TV I think of that and am just blown away.
 
I love the moral piggybacking that goes on in these circle-jerk forums. "As you may well know, I do not support use of chemical weapons on civilians." So brave.
 
jeez Kerry contradicts himself so many times. Why don't people call him out on his BS?
 
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