[Video] Rand Paul on The O'Reilly Factor w/ Eric Bolling 8/10/15

[AuH20]

What's worse is seeing the people here who seemingly support the guy "believing" he's anti establishment yet you know they've seen first hand how they treat a REAL anti establishment guy. Ron Paul was only allowed about a maximum of three questions per debate, had most every journalist/anchor slur him to high heaven, yet the opposite is happening to Trump. Trump got the most questions in the debate, is talked about 24/7 on all news networks and yet this guy is somehow anti establishment? I'm starting to think even some of the people around here have lost their minds. I know Ron isn't going to campaign for Rand, but boy I'd sure love to see him come out and do some interviews on national tv tearing this chump apart. Maybe he can get through to some of his old supporters and set them straight on why Trump is nothing more than an establishment TOOL, literally...

Time allocated was in direct proportion to poll standing. This was outlined prior.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Has anybody ever tried to argue that Trump is a real conservative?

Only all the Tea Partiers who have fallen under his spell. Cognitive dissonance will not allow them to admit that they are supporting a progressive liberal simply because he has a big mouth.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Time allocated was in direct proportion to poll standing. This was outlined prior.

So why does a guy polling 7th and 8th get 10th in allotted time?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

We've been discussing them on this forum for the past month. Won't repeat them here. But we'll continue to discuss them in real-time as the campaign season progresses.

You won't repeat them because Trump has no stances. Only bluster. He's fake. You have fallen politically in love, with a fake.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I hope your right.. sure feels like half tho.

I'm glad Rand went on the offensive. Trump has nothing but entertainment value. Its a win-win for Rand to get mixed up in that. he gets facts out to people who have a IQ over 50, and those under 50 IQ points who still have a hard on for Trump will get bored with him just like every other reality show.

Fact is most voters are not political junkies, so when a narcissist like Trump shows up they eat it up.

Hell, I found the debate to be the most entertaining one I have seen... But to see people actually take him politically serious is nauseating.

Trump offers no more to the table than the thousands of other drunk uncles spouting off about political issues.

No it's really only like 3 or 4 people, but the moderators are giving them full reign to trash Rand and promote Trump. Why I do not know, but there really aren't many, just a couple, problem is they are L O U D. What I do not understand is why the mods tolerate people trashing Rand and promoting Trump on Ron and Rand's own forums.

 

[CPUd]

So why does a guy polling 7th and 8th get 10th in allotted time?

And a guy polling 2nd or 3rd get 9th in allotted time.

 

[AuH20]

No it's really only like 3 or 4 people, but the moderators are giving them full reign to trash Rand and promote Trump. Why I do not know, but there really aren't many, just a couple, problem is they are L O U D. What I do not understand is why the mods tolerate people trashing Rand and promoting Trump on Ron and Rand's own forums.

Maybe so the dumbed down flock and/or campaign team will heed our advice. Trump isn't beating Rand because he a got a billion dollars of advertising. Rand was sliding far before Trump. Until you introspectively define the problem, you can't solve it.

 

[RabbitMan]

I'm also quite nauseated by the Trump talk lately. I fundamentally disagree with his stance on immigration, but disregarding that, he doesn't even have a realistic position outside of blowing hot air.

How anyone could support him besides the entertainment value is beyond me.

 

[Jackie Moon]

Eric Bolling hosting, he just mentioned it on The Five, said he was going to ask Rand why Trump's a fake conservative.


update:

Another really good interview. Bolling let Rand speak uninterrupted, which was nice.

Rand again did a good job at being calm and clear. He comes out looking like the adult in the room trying to redirect the discussion back towards issues instead of just insults. Having the second segment about Clinton helped.

There is a lot of time left, and more interviews like this will help.

 

[CPUd]

You won't repeat them because Trump has no stances. Only bluster. He's fake. You have fallen politically in love, with a fake.

Here are the positions Trump was supposed to have for the debate, per his former campaign manager:

On a possible third-party run:

"All options are on the table."

On Trump's top priorities as president:

"Repeal ObamaCare. Deport illegal criminals. Undo Obama's executive order on Amnesty."

On what to do with the millions of illegal immigrants current in the country:

"We must secure our border with a wall -- which Mexico will pay for -- and deport illegal criminals immediately.'

On defunding Planned Parenthood:

"Yes. The practice is disgusting"

On when life begins:

"Life begins at conception. I am pro-life and I want to protect every life."

On the recent Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage across the country:

"I disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling because gay marriage is a state's right issue."

On creationism vs. evolution:

"I believe in both."

On global warming:

"Global warming has been proven to be a fraud."

On Wall Street:

"I will cut loopholes for the big Wall Street donors that are supporting Jeb and Hillary ... I would rein in the banks."

On whether he would pledge not to raise taxes:

-"No. I will cut loopholes for the big Wall Street donors that are supporting Jeb and Hillary."

On Common Core:

"I do not support Common Core because it is a power grab by the federal bureaucrats to control the curriculum of all local schools."

On the Iran deal:

"I would have doubled sanctions, got our four American hostages back and made sure that Iran not only dismantled its nuclear program but also the military program of intercontinental ballistic missiles."

On whether to cut any government departments:

"No. I will make our country rich and prosperous."

On whether to close Gitmo:

No. I would also take away the passports of Americans who fight for ISIS and send them to Gitmo for some R&R."

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Maybe so the dumbed down flock and/or campaign team will heed our advice. Trump isn't beating Rand because he a got a billion dollars of advertising. Rand was sliding far before Trump. Until you introspectively define the problem, you can't solve it.

So your solution is to abandon all principle and then brag about having done so?

 

[AuH20]

So your solution is to abandon all principle and then brag about having done so?

Rand has done quite a job to this point abandoning principle. Not sure this is much wiggle room left. Washington Machine or No Washington Machine? No Israel Aid or Israel Aid? He should just start flipping a coin and get it over with.

 

[Kotin]

Rand has done quite a job to this point abandoning principle. Not sure this is much wiggle room left. Washington Machine or No Washington Machine? No Israel Aid or Israel Aid? He should just start flipping a coin and get it over with.

Lol keep telling yourself that.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Rand has done quite a job to this point abandoning principle. Not sure this is much wiggle room left. Washington Machine or No Washington Machine? No Israel Aid or Israel Aid? He should just start flipping a coin and get it over with.

Lol keep telling yourself that.

His isn't the reality we want, or have, his is the reality we deserve.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Maybe so the dumbed down flock and/or campaign team will heed our advice. Trump isn't beating Rand because he a got a billion dollars of advertising. Rand was sliding far before Trump. Until you introspectively define the problem, you can't solve it.

Since you are so hell bent on promoting Trump and disparaging Rand, you should go start your own forums. Away from actual principled people like us here on Ron Paul forums.

 

[AuH20]

Since you are so hell bent on promoting Trump and disparaging Rand, you should go start your own forums. Away from actual principled people like us here on Ron Paul forums.

I'm not promoting Trump. I'm telling you how Rand screwed up. Trump is a viable protest candidate presently, while Rand is scraping the bottom. This is fact. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again & expecting different results. If Rand can't escape the gravity of the 4 to 5% threshold in the polls, I will pull the lever for the protest candidate. No harm. No foul. No ignorance. Pure strategical calculation on my part.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Here are the positions Trump was supposed to have for the debate, per his former campaign manager:

Those are the positions he's telling you he has. Just like Bush campaigned as a noninterventionist, and Barack Obama campaigned as being against Gay Marriage. They lied. In order to judge the value of a politician, you need to judge them based on who they actually are, not who they say they are.

This is where the contradictions in Trumps previous beliefs, and his election time beliefs matter greatly.

 

[garyallen59]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again & expecting different results.

Point taken. You are insane.

 

[ifthenwouldi]

I'm not promoting Trump.

I'm not one who is afraid to criticize Rand, so I don't feel hypocritical saying this to you:

You are absolutely promoting Trump. If you were attempting some nuanced, middle ground, you've missed the mark.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'm not promoting Trump.

Bullshit.

I'm telling you how Rand screwed up.

You are promoting Trump and disparaging Rand. Why are you even on Ron Paul Forums if you don't give a damn about principle?

Trump is a viable protest candidate presently,

Sure if you love Hillary Clinton and the kind of government she would provide. Even if Trump won the General, he would still be identical with Hillary, plus a Camacho vibe.

while Rand is scraping the bottom.

So instead of doing the work to promote Rand, you instead promote Trump, a liberal progressive, and disparage Rand, a Constitutional Conservative. Right. Perfect. Your master plan appears to be working. Elect a progressive liberal government. Check.

This is fact. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again & expecting different results

So you are trying to pump up your insanity creds by promoting yet another another biggov crony liberal to office?

If Rand can't escape the gravity of the 4 to 5% threshold in the polls, I will pull the lever for the protest candidate. No harm. No foul. No ignorance. Pure strategical calculation on my part.

Fine. But why vomit all over Rand Paul's forums about how much you love Trump and hate Rand then, unless you WANT the actual Constitutionalist to lose and the actual liberal progressive to win? Go away somewhere where they actually WANT to read your unprincipled Trump-sucking crap.