[Video] Rand Paul on ABC's This Week w/ George Stephanopoulos 11/3/13

"hacks and haters" (as said by rand paul in this interview from abc george stephonopilisss(sp??) show.:nov 3 2013) are gonna hate! (as said by satchel mcqueen on nov 4 2013 on rpfs whist watching dumbo with his baby daughter from the disney corp on netflix)

someone please meme the shit out of my quote please with rand in the background. send it to madow.
 
I think the "dueling" line was a misstep; Rand's substantive rebuttal to the asinine "plagiarism" hysteria they've been throwing around was very good (informal speeches are not like academic papers, and very frequently involve heavy use of secondary sources without direct attribution and without complaint from news "pundits"), but the media has chosen to ignore it in favor of quoting "If dueling were legal..." and portraying Rand as a wild-eyed maniac out to shoot someone for exposing his iniquities.
 
I'd like to thank Ted Cruz for talking about Rand Paul behind his back and providing us with a little more evidence of the real snake that he is. Kudos Mr. Cruz, takes a real man to talk about someone behind his back like that.
 
I'd like to thank Ted Cruz for talking about Rand Paul behind his back and providing us with a little more evidence of the real snake that he is. Kudos Mr. Cruz, takes a real man to talk about someone behind his back like that.

And the media would like to thank you for believing their anonymous unsourced claims and accusations; despite all the evidence that they can't be trusted.
 
And the media would like to thank you for believing their anonymous unsourced claims and accusations; despite all the evidence that they can't be trusted.

Rand Paul seemed to believe. Has Ted Cruz come out and said he didn't say it? His silence on all this is deafening.
 
How is Rand's duel crack more important than Obama's "I'm really good at killing people" remark? Rand was joking. Obama wasn't.

Because Obama is a high priest to idolators of the State. Rand, on the other hand, is a heretic and blasphemer ...

Thus, Obama's pronouncements are to be considered ex cathedra as a matter of course - while anything Rand says (jokingly or otherwise) is anathema.
 
Rand Paul seemed to believe. Has Ted Cruz come out and said he didn't say it? His silence on all this is deafening.

I wouldn't say he "seemed to believe". I would say he took the high road and didn't confirm or deny and pointed out that he would never go on a national interview and attack, smear or backbite against somebody he considers an ally.
 
I wouldn't say he "seemed to believe". I would say he took the high road and didn't confirm or deny and pointed out that he would never go on a national interview and attack, smear or backbite against somebody he considers an ally.

I would agree that he took the high road but he isn't like you where he straight up denies that it happened. That's the difference.
 
I would agree that he took the high road but he isn't like you where he straight up denies that it happened. That's the difference.

I did no such thing. I simply pointed out that the story referenced is nothing but unsourced anonymous nonquotes and that the publication in question has a reputation as less than trustworthy in such matters. And I didn't even mention the fact that the media outlet in question would love nothing more than to sow discord among small government conservatives.
 
i love how people are willingly led wherever democrats wish to direct their attention to.

"obamacare? oh. ah look, pretty flowers there" and libertarians go on to talk about pretty flowers and evaluate it from a thousand angles, debating amongst themselves whether that random outburst by a random passerby democrat had any merit

why don't you just go fuck yourself?
 
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i love how people are willingly led wherever democrats wish to direct their attention to.

"obamacare? oh. ah look, pretty flowers there" and libertarians go on to talk about pretty flowers and evaluate it from a thousand angles, debating amongst themselves whether that random outburst by a random passerby democrat had any merit

why don't you just go fuck yourselves?

Thing is, we are always on the defensive since we have no media mouthpieces taking the offensive on our behalf. Ben Swann is about as close as it gets and he will NEVER be allowed to become a MSM figure.
 
Uuuuugh why is Rand continuing to engage with this woman? He shouldn't have even given her one response.
 
Uuuuugh why is Rand continuing to engage with this woman? He shouldn't have even given her one response.

Hannity asked Rand about it tonight. He is going to get questions during his press appearances I guess.
 
I did no such thing. I simply pointed out that the story referenced is nothing but unsourced anonymous nonquotes and that the publication in question has a reputation as less than trustworthy in such matters. And I didn't even mention the fact that the media outlet in question would love nothing more than to sow discord among small government conservatives.

You keep on bringing up these "unsourced anonymous nonquotes" as your reasoning when you still haven't failed to address the question. IF your boy Ted Cruz didn't say this, why hasn't he come out and said that the media is lying? I mean, either he said it or he didn't right? Just because it comes from the dirty "liberals" doesn't mean it's not true.

Ted Cruz could easily end this with just a simple statement saying he never said those things and the media is lying. And it would be done. Who is looking at the pretty flowers now?
 
You keep on bringing up these "unsourced anonymous nonquotes" as your reasoning when you still haven't failed to address the question.
My reasoning? I formed and claimed no conclusion. I simply pointed out facts calling into question the story you keep repeating as if it was the truth.

IF your boy Ted Cruz didn't say this, why hasn't he come out and said that the media is lying? I mean, either he said it or he didn't right? Just because it comes from the dirty "liberals" doesn't mean it's not true.
It funny you should mention "liberals" in quotes as I never said the word liberal in the relevant posts; but you sure do act like one. Are you personally butthurt that I think the media is untrustworthy?

"your boy Ted Cruz"? I would hardly say he was "my boy". I don't believe I donated to his campaign, he isn't my senator. I think I said I like him, but that's the extent. I'll go further now and call him an ally for liberty. both Rand and Ron seem to agree.

Ted Cruz could easily end this with just a simple statement saying he never said those things and the media is lying. And it would be done. Who is looking at the pretty flowers now?

Has he been asked about it in any interviews? If so, please feel free to point it out. Otherwise, your suggestion is that Cruz put out a press release denying any unsourced anonymous claims; anytime they are made against him? Are you serious? Hell, he'll probably need to hire a staffer just to handle that workload.

Besides all that, the question when asked of Rand, set Rand up for an awesome answer. It gave him another chance to look like the adult in the room and at the same time gave him a chance to spike the ball infront of a blowhard like Stephanopoulos.
 
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My reasoning? I formed and claimed no conclusion. I simply pointed out facts calling into question the story you keep repeating as if it was the truth.


It funny you should mention "liberals" in quotes as I never said the word liberal in the relevant posts; but you sure do act like one. Are you personally butthurt that I think the media is untrustworthy?

"your boy Ted Cruz"? I would hardly say he was "my boy". I don't believe I donated to his campaign, he isn't my senator. I think I said I like him, but that's the extent. I'll go further now and call him an ally for liberty. both Rand and Ron seem to agree.



Has he been asked about it in any interviews? If so, please feel free to point it out. Otherwise, your suggestion is that Cruz put out a press release denying any unsourced anonymous claims; anytime they are made against him? Are you serious? Hell, he'll probably need to hire a staffer just to handle that workload.

Besides all that, the question when asked of Rand, set Rand up for an awesome answer. It gave him another chance to look like the adult in the room and at the same time gave him a chance to spike the ball infront of a blowhard like Stephanopoulos.

There has now been an article and a public interview stating that Ted Cruz said that. Something he hasn't denied. Maybe one day he will put out a statement saying that he didn't say it but until then, your only evidence is that the media is "untrustworthy". Are u saying ur liberty "ally" has no clue this is going on? I would beg to differ because most polticians are very aware of things being said about them. As for ur statment about me acting like a liberal. Oh well? Call me all the names you like. It still doesn't change my opinion. In fact, the only thing that will is a statement by Ted Cruz that the media is being lying. Until then, what else am I to believe? Just because you said it's not true makes it not true?
 
There has now been an article and a public interview stating that Ted Cruz said that. Something he hasn't denied. Maybe one day he will put out a statement saying that he didn't say it but until then, your only evidence is that the media is "untrustworthy". Are u saying ur liberty "ally" has no clue this is going on? I would beg to differ because most polticians are very aware of things being said about them. As for ur statment about me acting like a liberal. Oh well? Call me all the names you like. It still doesn't change my opinion. In fact, the only thing that will is a statement by Ted Cruz that the media is being lying. Until then, what else am I to believe? Just because you said it's not true makes it not true?

I don't doubt that Cruz did try and conflate Ron and Rand, but it's equally true that the media is trying to use it to sow discord. If Cruz runs and attempts to use this tactic in the primary, it can be addressed then. All Rand has to say is he is his own man, which is what he said when the media kept asking him about the differences when he first came on the scene.
 
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