VIDEO: "Rand Paul could put together Libertarian and Christian conservative ideals".

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Interesting discussion on Fox News about a Rand Paul 2016 run at the presidency.

video here.... http://video.foxnews.com/v/2250760258001/senator-rand-paul-2016-election/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fvideo+%28Internal+-+Video+-+Latest%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

 

[acptulsa]

A prospect that no doubt scares the hell out of them because both groups have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they take a shine to a candidate they won't listen to Rupert Murdoch no matter how many people he pays to tell them they should give up on that candidate.

And it wouldn't take many others joining us to put the man over, either.

If the network blather from this morning is any indication, they're going to try to drive wedges between us and the evangelical vote. We had better watch that.

 

[Christian Liberty]

"Libertarian and Christian Conservative..."

I'm both, at the same time. Stupid labels are stupid.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

"Libertarian and Christian Conservative..."

I'm both, at the same time. Stupid labels are stupid.

 

[Matt Collins]

Great honest no-BS commentary from FNC.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Lol. Exaggerated, but lol. +Rep...

 

[Origanalist]

"Libertarian and Christian Conservative..."

I'm both, at the same time. Stupid labels are stupid.

Yes, but you cannot deny the friction.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Yes, but you cannot deny the friction.

I don't like "orthodox" terminology, but I acknowledge that it exists. I'm socially conservative in that I support a socially conservative society, but I am not politically conservative because I think government has no right to actually force anyone to participate in a socially conservative society. If my neighbor is not aggressing against me, or someone else, with his vice, I have no right to use force against him.

Of course, I do believe that abortion is an act of aggression, which does create some friction between me and most non-Christian libertarians. So I do believe abortion should be illegal even while most other "Liberal" lifestyles such as gay marriage (Government should stay entirely out of marriage), drug use, prostitution, and all sorts of other behaviors I am ethically opposed to should not.

Most Evangelicals are socially conservative, politically conservative, and even worse, neoconservative on foreign policy. See my "Defending our freedoms" thread...

I can live with social conservatives who aren't foriegn policy "Conservatives" but there aren't many of those. The best example I can think of is Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and while he's not Ron Paul, I respect him a lot.

 

[acptulsa]

Great honest no-BS commentary from FNC.

Palm Sunday clothes, no warhawk wing of the Republican Party, Rubio 'born out of the Tea Party Movement', and no mention that Santorum owed his entire national existence to Fox.

Why, yes, that was about as honest and BS-free as Faux ever gets. But does that mean they achieved greatness?

 

[Origanalist]

I don't like "orthodox" terminology, but I acknowledge that it exists. I'm socially conservative in that I support a socially conservative society, but I am not politically conservative because I think government has no right to actually force anyone to participate in a socially conservative society. If my neighbor is not aggressing against me, or someone else, with his vice, I have no right to use force against him.

Of course, I do believe that abortion is an act of aggression, which does create some friction between me and most non-Christian libertarians. So I do believe abortion should be illegal even while most other "Liberal" lifestyles such as gay marriage (Government should stay entirely out of marriage), drug use, prostitution, and all sorts of other behaviors I am ethically opposed to should not.

Most Evangelicals are socially conservative, politically conservative, and even worse, neoconservative on foreign policy. See my "Defending our freedoms" thread...

I can live with social conservatives who aren't foriegn policy "Conservatives" but there aren't many of those. The best example I can think of is Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and while he's not Ron Paul, I respect him a lot.

We have a lot in common my freind.

 

[Matt Collins]

Palm Sunday clothes, no warhawk wing of the Republican Party, Rubio 'born out of the Tea Party Movement', and no mention that Santorum owed his entire national existence to Fox.

Why, yes, that was about as honest and BS-free as Faux ever gets. But does that mean they achieved greatness?

That's not the part I was referring to.

 

[Sola_Fide]

There is a way that Rand can bring together Libertarians and Christian conservatives: run like Ron Paul, not Gary Johnson. Don't make the campaign about marriage and marijuana. Make the campaign about freedom, federalism, and Constitutionalism.

 

[Uriah]

Ron Paul brought in libertarians(used very broadly), social conservatives, and anti-war voters.

 

[itshappening]

Rand already has that 20% locked up in Iowa and NH that his dad worked hard to achieve I would assume. He only needs 15-20% of the rest from somewhere... In Iowa it will come from evangelicals and in New Hampshire I would suggest he makes friends with Ovide Lamontage and that's it, he's up and running. In SC if he's in a winning position then he will get congressional endorsements and maybe DeMint/Scott on board which gives him the trifecta.

I don't see how anyone else can crash the party. Rand could effectively have it locked up well in advance if he plays it right.

That's why I have $300 riding on him at 20-1 and so will win $6k if it happens.

 

[itshappening]

Just an update to the betting activity. No European bookmaker is offering higher than 12-1 now. He was 28-1 last week but after I rang them up and placed bets I've collapsed the market.

Rubio, Ryan, Portman, Bush and Christie all ahead of Rand in their lists which I think is still a bit out of whack.

 

[KurtBoyer25L]

Just an update to the betting activity. No European bookmaker is offering higher than 12-1 now. He was 28-1 last week but after I rang them up and placed bets I've collapsed the market.

Rubio, Ryan, Portman, Bush and Christie all ahead of Rand in their lists which I think is still a bit out of whack.

It's a horserace to them. The Pauls are like a team that is the sexy pick for the Super Bowl that has been 8-8 the last few years...the logic is, until they prove they can lead the pack the betters will still be shy.