[Video of Police Brutality] Innocent Man Tackled [Now in a coma]

I have been a member and lurker of these forums for a long time now. I stood by Ron Paul almost from the beginning of his campaign for President. I voted for him in the primaries in my state. I attended the Revolution March and took pictures for my website. I was one of the first to upload a Youtube slideshow video of the march for those who could not make it but wanted to be there - I knew what it was like to miss out on a big event like that. I shook Dick Heller's hand and congratulated him on his achievement on the D.C. vs. Heller decision.

I have been a part of the Ron Paul Revolution. I believe in freedom, justice, and equality. I believe in the United States Constitution. But there is something that drives me away. It is the anarchists and immaturity that I see in threads like these. Until you walk a year in a police officers shoes - you need to shut up. This officer was doing his job correctly. And guess what? Your complaining would not have changed if he tasered or pepper sprayed the young man, you still would have called it excessive force - even if it was justified. This same old song and dance routine that is spouted every time an officer uses force to apprehend a suspect is getting old and it scares off some from this movement and it pisses off others - like myself.

Let's examine the situation - there is an assault involving a deadly weapon, police show up on the scene, the store clerk points in the direction, and the cops see a young man running away. They call out for him to stop, identify themselves as police officers, and are in uniform. The young man finally slows down and turns - but the cop takes no chances with his own life. The officer has friends and possibly family to go home to. So he uses force and his own body to check the young man down. The young mans head hitting the wall is unfortunate, as is his coma. However, this case was so clearly an accident that it disgusts me to see all of you so quick to demonize this police officer.

And before you call me an authoritarian, statist, ect, you need to know that I have seen videos where unjustified force was used. The one from California where the officer kicked a downed suspect in the head should be held accountable. The one where police beat the man who was already unconscious should be held accountable. Some police can be out of control, and need to answer for their actions. But please, I'm tired to having to equate this Revolution movement with a bunch of immature, angry anarchists who are quick to whine at the drop of a hat. You are turning into exactly what the media tried to make you into during Ron Paul's campaign - a bunch of anarchists, freaks, and the minority.

Lastly, I would like to say thank you to the 2-3 of you who actually used your heads and saw that this incident was nothing more than an unfortunate accident. You - the ones who refuse to follow the sheep-herd "All-cops-are-bad" mentality that has been brewing, are the ones who will truly rise in face of injustice and will answer the call that threatens to stifle our liberty.

I will now don my flame retardant suit in anticipation of a volcano.
 
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I have been a member and lurker of these forums for a long time now. I stood by Ron Paul almost from the beginning of his campaign for President. I voted for him in the primaries in my state. I attended the Revolution March and took pictures for my website. I was one of the first to upload a Youtube slideshow video of the march for those who could not make it but wanted to be there - I knew what it was like to miss out on a big event like that. I shook Dick Heller's hand and congratulated him on his achievement on the D.C. vs. Heller decision.

I have been a part of the Ron Paul Revolution. I believe in freedom, justice, and equality. I believe in the United States Constitution. But there is something that drives me away. It is the anarchists and immaturity that I see in threads like these. Until you walk a year in a police officers shoes - you need to shut up. This officer was doing his job correctly. And guess what? Your complaining would not have changed if he tasered or pepper sprayed the young man, you still would have called it excessive force - even if it was justified. This same old song and dance routine that is spouted every time an officer uses force to apprehend a suspect is getting old and it scares off some from this movement and it pisses off others - like myself.

Let's examine the situation - there is an assault involving a deadly weapon, police show up on the scene, the store clerk points in the direction, and the cops see a young man running away. They call out for him to stop, identify themselves as police officers, and are in uniform. The young man finally slows down and turns - but the cop takes no chances with his own life. The officer has friends and possibly family to go home to. So he uses force and his own body to check the young man down. The young mans head hitting the wall is unfortunate, as is his coma. However, this case was so clearly an accident that it disgusts me to see all of you so quick to demonize this police officer.

And before you call me an authoritarian, statist, ect, you need to know that I have seen videos where unjustified force was used. The one from California where the officer kicked a downed suspect in the head should be held accountable. The one where police beat the man who was already unconscious should be held accountable. Some police can be out of control, and need to answer for their actions. But please, I'm tired to having to equate this Revolution movement with a bunch of immature, angry anarchists who are quick to whine at the drop of a hat. You are turning into exactly what the media tried to make you into during Ron Paul's campaign - a bunch of anarchists, freaks, and the minority.

Lastly, I would like to say thank you to the 2-3 of you who actually used your heads and saw that this incident was nothing more than an unfortunate accident. You - the ones who refuse to follow the sheep-herd "All-cops-are-bad" mentality that has been brewing, are the ones who will truly rise in face of injustice and will answer the call that threatens to stifle our liberty.

I will now don my flame retardant suit in anticipation of a volcano.

You left out the part where the guy didn't match the description was handed to the police.
 
I have been a member and lurker of these forums for a long time now. I stood by Ron Paul almost from the beginning of his campaign for President. I voted for him in the primaries in my state. I attended the Revolution March and took pictures for my website. I was one of the first to upload a Youtube slideshow video of the march for those who could not make it but wanted to be there - I knew what it was like to miss out on a big event like that. I shook Dick Heller's hand and congratulated him on his achievement on the D.C. vs. Heller decision.

I have been a part of the Ron Paul Revolution. I believe in freedom, justice, and equality. I believe in the United States Constitution. But there is something that drives me away. It is the anarchists and immaturity that I see in threads like these. Until you walk a year in a police officers shoes - you need to shut up. This officer was doing his job correctly. And guess what? Your complaining would not have changed if he tasered or pepper sprayed the young man, you still would have called it excessive force - even if it was justified. This same old song and dance routine that is spouted every time an officer uses force to apprehend a suspect is getting old and it scares off some from this movement and it pisses off others - like myself.

Let's examine the situation - there is an assault involving a deadly weapon, police show up on the scene, the store clerk points in the direction, and the cops see a young man running away. They call out for him to stop, identify themselves as police officers, and are in uniform. The young man finally slows down and turns - but the cop takes no chances with his own life. The officer has friends and possibly family to go home to. So he uses force and his own body to check the young man down. The young mans head hitting the wall is unfortunate, as is his coma. However, this case was so clearly an accident that it disgusts me to see all of you so quick to demonize this police officer.

And before you call me an authoritarian, statist, ect, you need to know that I have seen videos where unjustified force was used. The one from California where the officer kicked a downed suspect in the head should be held accountable. The one where police beat the man who was already unconscious should be held accountable. Some police can be out of control, and need to answer for their actions. But please, I'm tired to having to equate this Revolution movement with a bunch of immature, angry anarchists who are quick to whine at the drop of a hat. You are turning into exactly what the media tried to make you into during Ron Paul's campaign - a bunch of anarchists, freaks, and the minority.

Lastly, I would like to say thank you to the 2-3 of you who actually used your heads and saw that this incident was nothing more than an unfortunate accident. You - the ones who refuse to follow the sheep-herd "All-cops-are-bad" mentality that has been brewing, are the ones who will truly rise in face of injustice and will answer the call that threatens to stifle our liberty.

I will now don my flame retardant suit in anticipation of a volcano.


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However, this case was so clearly an accident that it disgusts me to see all of you so quick to demonize this police officer.

I would love to hear your opinion when it is your son or daughter lying in the hospital. It is easy to look the other way when other people's rights are trampled on but when it hits home you will sing a different tune.
 
The young man finally slows down and turns - but the cop takes no chances with his own life. The officer has friends and possibly family to go home to. So he uses force and his own body to check the young man down. The young mans head hitting the wall is unfortunate, as is his coma.

You ignore the posts from police officers and others here whose opinion was the police was NOT following proper protocol and was putting himself in MORE danger by his actions (as well as the young boy.)
 
I have been a member and lurker of these forums for a long time now. I stood by Ron Paul almost from the beginning of his campaign for President. I voted for him in the primaries in my state. I attended the Revolution March and took pictures for my website. I was one of the first to upload a Youtube slideshow video of the march for those who could not make it but wanted to be there - I knew what it was like to miss out on a big event like that. I shook Dick Heller's hand and congratulated him on his achievement on the D.C. vs. Heller decision.

I have been a part of the Ron Paul Revolution. I believe in freedom, justice, and equality. I believe in the United States Constitution. But there is something that drives me away. It is the anarchists and immaturity that I see in threads like these. Until you walk a year in a police officers shoes - you need to shut up. This officer was doing his job correctly. And guess what? Your complaining would not have changed if he tasered or pepper sprayed the young man, you still would have called it excessive force - even if it was justified. This same old song and dance routine that is spouted every time an officer uses force to apprehend a suspect is getting old and it scares off some from this movement and it pisses off others - like myself.

Let's examine the situation - there is an assault involving a deadly weapon, police show up on the scene, the store clerk points in the direction, and the cops see a young man running away. They call out for him to stop, identify themselves as police officers, and are in uniform. The young man finally slows down and turns - but the cop takes no chances with his own life. The officer has friends and possibly family to go home to. So he uses force and his own body to check the young man down. The young mans head hitting the wall is unfortunate, as is his coma. However, this case was so clearly an accident that it disgusts me to see all of you so quick to demonize this police officer.

And before you call me an authoritarian, statist, ect, you need to know that I have seen videos where unjustified force was used. The one from California where the officer kicked a downed suspect in the head should be held accountable. The one where police beat the man who was already unconscious should be held accountable. Some police can be out of control, and need to answer for their actions. But please, I'm tired to having to equate this Revolution movement with a bunch of immature, angry anarchists who are quick to whine at the drop of a hat. You are turning into exactly what the media tried to make you into during Ron Paul's campaign - a bunch of anarchists, freaks, and the minority.

Lastly, I would like to say thank you to the 2-3 of you who actually used your heads and saw that this incident was nothing more than an unfortunate accident. You - the ones who refuse to follow the sheep-herd "All-cops-are-bad" mentality that has been brewing, are the ones who will truly rise in face of injustice and will answer the call that threatens to stifle our liberty.

I will now don my flame retardant suit in anticipation of a volcano.

Nothing wrong with lurking.
 
I thought that police training taught: You stand back from the guy swinging a knife, with your gun arm shoulder turned slightly away from the perp, identify and order him to drop it, AND THEN YA' SHOOT HIM THRICE IN THE CHEST - CENTER OF MASS. That tackle/shove move could get a cop sliced up or stuck real quick if the bad guy was a real street knife fighter! Bet that cop checked both hands first, before getting within knife range!

The "head into the wall" part looked like a tragic accident (BTW, that wall would have made a safe background for gunfire). The tackle take-down move seemed a bit hot headed for a seasoned and well-trained cop. Was that a justifiable use of force? The cop should have been faster and in front of the guy, or followed him while on radio for more police to head 'em off and provide SOP overwhelming force.

I'd like to hear, from other witnesses, how clearly the police shouted/identified themselves and "how they appeared to the victim". The guy could have been in fear that this was no police officer coming at him since he knew he didn't do anything wrong; it takes the untrained mind a little while to react to the situation. I could see the trained, quick thinking policeman was sure he really had a bad guy in his crosshairs; one who was not following his wishes/orders or "cooperating" with full compliance/submission. The cop's actions were not surprising either.

It's just too bad it all had to go that way... If the cop's record is clear, pay up like they would if it was one of their own in the coma (with a new bride to support?), EVERYONE learns from the mistakes revealed after a full truthful investigation, and then everyone moves on. If the cop is a hot head, he needs to get canned before anyone else gets hurt/$/compensated.
 
I would love to hear your opinion when it is your son or daughter lying in the hospital. It is easy to look the other way when other people's rights are trampled on but when it hits home you will sing a different tune.

Although I believe that unnecessary force was used in this case I find this argument old, tired and worn out. Someone who's judgement is most likely clouded by emotion does not automatically occupy the moral high ground.
 
Although I believe that unnecessary force was used in this case I find this argument old, tired and worn out. Someone who's judgement is most likely clouded by emotion does not automatically occupy the moral high ground.

Wow, so if I'm emotional and blow someone to kingdom come who did NOTHING to me, I should get off. Right? Wake up and smell the bullshit you're shoveling. I don't give a fuck if he had to chase this guy for a mile. That shitstain in blue deserves to be spending time for attempted manslaughter in Pound-me-in-the-Ass prison.
 
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