[VIDEO] Ben Swann's Reality Check: Was there voter fraud in Maine?

[Constitutional Paulicy]

I'm not one to believe in fraud just because my guy didn't win, but there are too many things going on here that benefited Mitt and hurt Ron for me to accept that its all just a string of big coincidences.

The good news is this may create blowback that we can harness.

I am right were you are right now. I'm calling a spade a spade this time.

 

[A. Havnes]

Ben Swann is a hero of journalism.

He's an actual journalist. It's pretty sad that he's just doing his job, but because he's the only one doing his job, it makes him a hero. Just shows how far down the toilet our media has flushed itself.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Lots of posts throughout asking how Ben can report this kinda stuff....

Be sure to check out Raycom Media, which allows Ben Swann such Journalistic Freedom.......

 

[Bossobass]

Fraud? About a nonbinding straw poll, conducted internally for a private organization's purposes?

WTF? ^^

So, why don't we just break into the vote count room and grab the tally sheets and change the totals forcefully?

Fraud is fraud. If a single vote is found fraudulent, the entire election (or straw poll) is invalid.

Instead, we have all of the major (complicit) networks saying the opening line of Ben's segment, "The Headlines this weekend: Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is back on track after winning the Maine Caucuses."

Anyone not seeing the significance here is beyond hope.

Bosso

 

[Captain Shays]

Haven't watched yet, but will this benefit Paul at all?

That would be up to us and what we do. If we spread this far and wide to all of our friends and family and in every politicial discussion forum and every website wherever we can it will help to wake people up and hopefully they will realize how they have been deceived. People don't like to by lied to or controlled.

 

[Tumn1s]

Every American should be OUTRAGED at this. The GOP's actions have dishonored the memory of every American soldier who has fought and died for our freedoms, especially the right to vote. When foreign powers attempt to usurp our country and attack us we go to war and kill them to defend our liberty... but when the destruction of our liberty starts happening at the hands of our own people what do we do? make phone calls... write letters... drudge it... Lets be serious with ourselves, if this continues all it's going to take is a spark to set things off. The founders of our country gave us a second amendment explicitly for this reason. I'm not advocating violence... but it's time to seriously think about the steps we must take to effect change and be taken seriously. The people in the establishment need to know that cheating has consequences... and it must be worse than the possibility of a loss in November.

 

[Captain Shays]

I think the biggest thing we should be bringing attention to is WHY they were told not to publicly count votes? By whom? Verification? Results of those caucus versus what was reported...

This

 

[slamhead]

Every American should be OUTRAGED at this. The GOP's actions have dishonored the memory of every American soldier who has fought and died for our freedoms, especially the right to vote. When foreign powers attempt to usurp our country and attack us we go to war and kill them to defend our liberty... but when the destruction of our liberty starts happening at the hands of our own people what do we do? make phone calls... write letters... drudge it... Lets be serious with ourselves, if this continues all it's going to take is a spark to set things off. The founders of our country gave us a second amendment explicitly for this reason. I'm not advocating violence... but it's time to seriously think about the steps we must take to effect change and be taken seriously. The people in the establishment need to know that cheating has consequences... and it must be worse than the possibility of a loss in November.

What's that noise....is that a drone I hear? ;-P. Your post probably just popped up on some computer screen in Langley.

 

[isee]

REALITY CHECK: Did Maine GOP Blatantly Cheat Ron Paul out of a Victory



Uploaded by wilsonsmanz on Feb 15, 2012

 

[Tod]

Watching Ben Swann's report was very, very interesting.

But after thinking a few minutes, I found myself thinking - "If this is fraud, it is the most incompetent and inept fraud I can imagine. If the Maine GOP really wanted to do something dishonest, I am sure that they could have covered up their wickedness more effectively."

Perhaps these people are not dishonest - just incredibly stupid.

Prisons are filled with people who were too stupid to get away with their crime of choice.

 

[asurfaholic]

Fraud? About a nonbinding straw poll, conducted internally for a private organization's purposes?

Ill try....

Non binding straw poll - not important for the purposes of proving fraud. The fact that the public, voicing their support for the candidate of choice, have been denied an accurate representation of choice. This means that those who consider themselves members of this private organization have been cheated. When you cheat someone or a group of people of something they are entitled to as a member, then you have commited fraud. And I believe that people voting in a GOP primary or caucus ARE entitled to a fair count of all the votes, because that is part of the deal. They showed up and spent valuable time and effort, and it is fraud when some aren't given fair representation for their efforts. Private organization means nothing for the purposes of proving fraud either. Private organizations are not allowed to commit fraud just because they are private.

/tried

 

[PaulConventionWV]

The problem is that many people

1. won't hear about this.
2. will treat it like one of those politician sex scandals where it's one and done and the problem is fixed. It's not.

 

[Tod]

I just spoke w/ Kim P., a State Committeewoman at the State GOP office, and she says that it was Chris Gardner's (WA CO Caucus Chair) decision to postpone the Washington Co. caucuses a week, not the State. She also says that the instructions about results were to not share the results with the press because it would dilute the press coverage that the State announcement received.

She says she's been getting calls all day.

She is from Kennebec County and forwarded me a spreadsheet with the results from Kennebec County. They match what is on the state's web site.

I haven't found Chris Gardner's number, but I did find an e-mail address. I'll ask him whether the decision to postpone was his or the state's.

edit: called AG office too. They didn't have much to say, suggested I call elections, who in turn suggested I call the AG

 

[bcreps85]

I just spoke w/ Kim P., a State Committeewoman at the State GOP office, and she says that it was Chris Gardner's (WA CO Caucus Chair) decision to postpone the Washington Co. caucuses a week, not the State. She also says that the instructions about results were to not share the results with the press because it would dilute the press coverage that the State announcement received.

She says she's been getting calls all day.

She is from Kennebec County and forwarded me a spreadsheet with the results from Kennebec County. They match what is on the state's web site.

I haven't found Chris Gardner's number, but I did find an e-mail address. I'll ask him whether the decision to postpone was his or the state's.

And this is is my impression of why he went into "defense mode" so quickly and started blaming the state, because he knows that he's going to take the fall in the end - whether it was just him involved in this fraud, or the state as well.

 

[boethius27]

2. will treat it like one of those politician sex scandals where it's one and done and the problem is fixed. It's not.

Just this one single win is greatly needed for Dr. Paul's PR campaign though.

 

[jmdrake]

If Ron doesn't win Draft For Ben Swann 2016

Seriously. I love this guy.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

The Ron Paul Facebook page JUST Posted the story!!!!

Again, go back to the opening thread to read about Raycom Media - Ben Swann's employer.

 

[MozoVote]

Gardner has been telling the press it was a state GOP decision. The finger pointing between Gardner and Webster is becoming entertaining.

Right now I suspect Gardner is more likely to be telling the truth.

Webster made SUCH a big deal about voter fraud on his way up to state chairman. I smell a hypocrite. And he has more to gain (appointment to a Romney administration) than a low level county chair.

 

[Lisa100]

This guy Ben is my new boyfriend! LOL! Talk about journalism and integrity and guts rolled up into one guy! And a few comments on this thread are outstanding!!