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New York (CNN)Former Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Friday that the party outsmarted itself in passing a 2012 rule that he said was aimed at blunting his influence on that summer's convention.

The GOP's "Rule 40(b)" requires candidates win the "support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight or more states" in order to have their named placed on the nominating ballot. The raised threshold -- it had previously been a plurality from five states -- helped to prevent Paul's supporters from upstaging or distracting from the presumptive nominee, Mitt Romney, on national television.

"They did not want my name to come up and so they changed the rules because we had the votes," Paul told CNN "At This Hour" anchors Kate Bolduan and John Berman. "We had the numbers to allow my name to be put into nomination, but they wouldn't do it."

Four years later, the same establishment figures who spearheaded the 2012 rules changes are facing a different kind of challenge: Donald Trump. But this time around, the requirement threatens to undermine a late effort to derail the billionaire front-runner.

"I think it's a bit of an irony and they deserve the problem," Paul said. "They're terrified of competition, and now the establishment has competition that really looks strong and there's a lot of people behind Trump. So this is a big problem for them."

The issue could come to the fore if Trump fails to win the 1,237 delegates required to clinch the nomination before the July convention in Cleveland. But with Ted Cruz and John Kasich at risk of not meeting the eight-state majority minimum, the first fight of the 2016 convention could turn on a decision whether to scale back or remove the rule.

Former Arkansas GOP rules chairman Tom Lundstrum sat on the committee four years ago and opposed the changes. He is running to be a state delegate for Cruz in 2016.

"I don't spend a lot of my time trying to finagle outcomes and screw people," he told CNN. "But there are apparently a lot of people out there who do. In 2012, the Romney campaign had a Washington attorney down there trying to make all sorts of changes that were not necessary. And several of them were quite offensive to what I'd call the grassroots electorate. ... They were trying to blunt any gains made by Ron Paul. It was ridiculous."

Paul said he took no pleasure in the GOP's current conundrum, but did suggest their eventual nominee could face a third-party general election challenge.

"It will probably go to the floor, but I think Trump is going to win and I wouldn't be surprised, if that happens, that you're going to see another individual running, a third-party candidate," he said. "Somebody that's going to be supported by the establishment-type Republicans and those who can't control Trump."


http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/politics/ron-paul-donald-trump-rule-40-republican-convention/index.html

I actually read another interview with the establishment attorney who got this rule passed where he said it was just a 'rule of the current convention' so it wouldn't apply to the 2016 convention anyhow. I guess we'll see.
 
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Ron Paul says GOP deserves the (Trump convention controversy) problem

I'm sure he is human and someday I'll catch him being wrong on something but missed again as RP is right again.

Ron Paul says GOP deserves convention rule controversy

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Updated 8:08 PM ET, Fri March 18, 2016

Story highlights


  • Ron Paul said Friday that the party outsmarted itself in passing a 2012 rule that he said was aimed at blunting his influence on that summer's convention
  • The GOP's "Rule 40(b)" requires candidates win the "support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight or more states" in order to have their named placed on the nominating ballot

New York (CNN)Former Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Friday that the party outsmarted itself in passing a 2012 rule that he said was aimed at blunting his influence on that summer's convention.

The GOP's "Rule 40(b)" requires candidates win the "support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight or more states" in order to have their named placed on the nominating ballot. The raised threshold -- it had previously been a plurality from five states -- helped to prevent Paul's supporters from upstaging or distracting from the presumptive nominee, Mitt Romney, on national television.
"They did not want my name to come up and so they changed the rules because we had the votes," Paul told CNN "At This Hour" anchors Kate Bolduan and John Berman. "We had the numbers to allow my name to be put into nomination, but they wouldn't do it."
Four years later, the same establishment figures who spearheaded the 2012 rules changes are facing a different kind of challenge: Donald Trump. But this time around, the requirement threatens to undermine a late effort to derail the billionaire front-runner.
"I think it's a bit of an irony and they deserve the problem," Paul said. "They're terrified of competition, and now the establishment has competition that really looks strong and there's a lot of people behind Trump. So this is a big problem for them."
The issue could come to the fore if Trump fails to win the 1,237 delegates required to clinch the nomination before the July convention in Cleveland. But with Ted Cruz and John Kasich at risk of not meeting the eight-state majority minimum, the first fight of the 2016 convention could turn on a decision whether to scale back or remove the rule.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/polit...rump-rule-40-republican-convention/index.html



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Thursday, 30 August 2012
Republican Convention Rules Changes: How the Establishment Stole the GOP



On August 28 the Republican National Committee (RNC) allowed representatives of the Mitt Romney campaign to seize control of the Republican Party. As The New American has reported, Ron Paul delegates from Maine were improperly denied credentials, robbing Paul of a majority of that state’s delegation. One disgusted Maine delegate described this decision as a “huge slap in the face.”
That slap hit more than just Maine. Maine’s Ron Paul delegates were roughly shoved out of the Republican Party’s quadrennial convention, and as a result of events surrounding the proposal and adoption of new rules to govern the presidential nomination process, every potential Republican presidential candidate with a message that doesn’t parrot the party line has been effectively ostracized. Forever.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...-stole-the-gop
 
He's exactly right. We had the GOP in our clutches, in order for them to change the rules to kick Ron in the ass. F'k those bastards... Let's take them out now, while the taking out is good !!
 
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Ruh Roh. Statesman's train's rollin again, boys. Heh. I'm glad to see sailingaway back. Welcome back.

But, yeah. They deserve exactly the problem they've created for themselves. What comes around goes around. Every single time. Hopefully hard headed friends may learn from the experience as well so that we may better assess our logic moving forward to future endeavors.
 
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They could just overturn the rule in the same fashion they adopted it.

Yeah. They could. They'd also expose their own screwery for what it is by demonstration if they do. And during a time when all eyes are on them. Might be able to take advantage of it if they do and turn it into something on our end. Depends on who's doing the thinking, though. Know what I mean? More chiefs than injuns wasn't very fruitful last time around.
 
"I don't spend a lot of my time trying to finagle outcomes and screw people," he told CNN. "But there are apparently a lot of people out there who do. In 2012, the Romney campaign had a Washington attorney down there trying to make all sorts of changes that were not necessary. And several of them were quite offensive to what I'd call the grassroots electorate. ... They were trying to blunt any gains made by Ron Paul. It was ridiculous."
 
Yeah. They could. They'd also expose their own screwery for what it is by demonstration if they do. And during a time when all eyes are on them. Might be able to take advantage of it if they do and turn it into something on our end. Depends on who's doing the thinking, though. Know what I mean? More chiefs than injuns wasn't very fruitful last time around.
It's really interesting to watch. They made the rule to keep a minority (Ron Paul supporters) from being too much of an annoyance. That made for a few videos of booing and we all got pissed off about it, but honestly, most Republican voters didn't even know that happened. If they change the rules to deny Trump and his majority of Republican primary voters, many more will find out about it. It could really damage the party. I think Trump will get enough delegates though so it won't be an issue.

I'm dreaming of a day in the near future where someone writes an article telling Kurt Shlichter and others that gave us Paulbots so much hell, "It's time to support the constitution and vote for Trump". I enjoy watching these dickheads get a taste of their own medicine.
 
Still, one has to feel a tad bit sorry for GOP and neocon establishments' owners if things went of hand at the convention if they tried similar tactics as they did in 2012.
 
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