Victims of Civil Liberty Violations [ List ]

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This topic is created for a reference page of civil liberty violations (or any other significant incident against a person/family that is unconstitutional).

This thread is for quick summary. This is not a discussion thread. Feel free to link to topics on RonPaulForums that are for discussion.

I don't like making guidelines/rules for topics. However I am creating some suggestions that will hopefully help people quickly access the information. You do not need to adhere to my suggestion.

Suggested format:
-- [Small Photo, if one is available. This is to put a face to the injustice.]
• Name of Victim
• Short Synopsis (Please no walls of text. Keep it to 2/3 paragraphs unless you are posting an unreported incident or personal experience.)
• Links to news stories, blogs, RonPaulForum topics, Youtubes.

It may be advised to save a Mirror of articles, as blogs often update and news articles are often deleted after a good period of time.

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Ed & Elaine Brown
Edward Lewis Brown (born 1942) and his wife, Elaine Alice Brown (born c. 1940), residents of the American state of New Hampshire, gained national news media attention in early 2007 for not paying their federal income tax and refusing to surrender to federal government agents after having been convicted of tax crimes. After the conviction and sentencing, a long, armed standoff with federal law enforcement authorities at their New Hampshire residence ended with the arrest of Edward and Elaine Brown on October 4, 2007.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lewis_Brown
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56223 (July 2007)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/180607Conference.htm (June 2007)
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2007-01-25.htm (January 2007)
Sentencing for Brown supporters (April 2008)

If someone has already posted about an incident but you feel the need to add links or update the story, PLEASE DO. Quote the post that you are 'updating'
 
The FLDS Church members of El Dorado, Texas.

Held captive by the Texas authorities after a raid cause by a prank phone call. These families have been torn apart and placed in foster homes throughout the state. The have fail;ed to receive due process, and many other issues.

More info, and some links in this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=132123
 
Kathryn Johnston
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for simplicity, from the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston

Police obtained a warrant,broke in and killed this old lady and then planted drugs in her home to cover up.
The original story.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10374909/detail.html

the rest of the story.
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/51151/
Johnston got off one shot, the bullet missing her target and hitting a porch roof. The three narcotics officers answered with 39 bullets.

Five or six bullets hit the terrified woman. Authorities never figured out who fired the fatal bullet, the one that hit Johnston in the chest. Some pieces of the other bullets -- friendly fire -- hit Junnier and two other cops.

The officers handcuffed the mortally wounded woman and searched the house.

There was no Sam.

There were no drugs.

There were no cameras that the officers had claimed was the reason for the no-knock warrant.

Just Johnston, handcuffed and bleeding on her living room floor.

That is when the officers took it to another level. Three baggies of marijuana were retrieved from the trunk of the car and planted in Johnston's basement. The rest of the pot from the trunk was dropped down a sewage drain and disappeared.

The three began getting their stories straight.

The latest news,
http://www.ajc.com/training/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/05/13/tesler_0514.html
He testified that Tesler, 42, participated in the coverup but he wasn't the main instigator of the illegal warrant or the coverup scheme, which Junnier blamed on Smith. In a surprise, the prosecution did not call Smith to testify.

FBI agent Robuck was the main witness Tuesday morning and he described a coverup that reached above Tesler and his two co-defendants. The three detectives briefed their sergeant, Wilbert Stallings, that they were changing their story about which officers witnessed an informant buying crack cocaine at Johnston's house at 933 Neal Street after Johnston was shot to death by narcotics unit officers.

"Sgt. Stallings was told there had been a change in the story and his comment, according to the investigation was, was 'Just pick one and stick to it," Robuck said.

The FBI agent described a police narcotics division that repeatedly lied to get warrants and planted evidence in investigations. Stallings, 44, was later convicted and is in prison on charges from another drug investigation that was turned up during the FBI investigation of the Neal Street case.
 
There are so many stories,and it seems more all the time.
It was a personal experience that started me searching for my rights( or the lack of them) and led to hearing about Ron Paul.
Mine was a 2nd amendment and property rights issue.
The only reference is my own Blog.
http://pcosmar.blogspot.com/2006/08/things-have-not-gone-well.html

BTW, my stepdaughter still lives here, has recently gotten married (again) is taking her medication, and attending AA meetings. She has no fear of me (never did really) and we get along well.
My wifes shotgun was never returned.

I am still angry, but I am active now.
 
Another I ran accross in my search for answers,
Cory Maye
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye
http://www.reason.com/news/show/36869.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184992,00.html
That Cory Maye is even in prison is an appalling failure of Mississippi's criminal justice system. Police had no reason to be in his home that night, much less to break down his door. His case is just the latest in a series of tragic consequences resulting from the overuse of paramilitary tactics when police serve drug warrants.

But it's the details of Cory Maye's case that make it particularly compelling:

Cory Maye had no prior criminal record. He had no history of violence. Police found one gram of ashen marijuana in Maye's apartment (that's about a sixth of a teabag's worth). There was no "large stash," and Cory Maye was no drug dealer. In fact, Maye's name appeared nowhere on the search warrant, only his address and the phrase "persons unknown."

Then there's the matter of the informant. We'll never know who that informant was, nor will we ever know what kind of corroborating investigation was done before securing the warrant. That's because the entire investigation leading up to the raid was conducted by the same Officer Ron Jones who was killed in the raid.

According to District Attorney Buddy McDonald, Jones kept no notes or documentation of his investigation of the Smith-Maye duplex; and any investigation he may have done, in the words of McDonald, "died with Officer Jones."
 
As UtahApocalypse posted above there is the case in Texas where over 400 children were removed from their homes on nothing more than a phone call. That phone call has been traced back to a hoax caller,but the families are still separated

Here is more from the state of Illinois.
http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/327965.html
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64364

State falsely accuses 3,000 of child abuse

Investigators have 'power of God,' can ruin life with stroke of pen
I remember a case in Florida when I lived there.
A navy family, by ALL accounts a loving and caring family, had there children taken. After a 2 year battle the children were returned. The cost was incredible and no one at the state level was punished. The family had done nothing wrong., but paid a heavy price.

There are thousands of such cases in every state, (google) and too many to reference.
It is often a case of Guilty till proven Innocent.
 
Innocent? till proven.

Last year Richard Jewell died. Do you remember his story?
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This man was a true American Hero.
But that is not the treatment he received.
After saving countless lives, due to his observations and quick actions, he was crucified in the press. He was investigated and harassed for months.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-07-23-jewell-remembers_x.htm
ATLANTA — Richard Jewell's fortunes changed in a split second.

The security guard was initially hailed as a hero for spotting a suspicious backpack in a park and moving people out of harm's way just before a bomb exploded during a concert at the 1996 Summer Olympics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell
Richard Jewell's hunting rifles were confiscated and never returned, having been presumably sold. His mother's family photographs and Tupperware collection were taken as "evidence" and returned vandalized. Two of the bombing victims filed lawsuits against Jewell on the basis of this reporting. In a reference to the Unabomber, Jay Leno called him the "Una-doofus".[4] Other references include "Una-Bubba," [5] and (of his mother) "Una-Mama." Jewell was never officially charged, but the FBI searched his home, questioned his associates, investigated his background, and maintained twenty-four hour surveillance of him. The pressure only began to ease after Jewell's attorneys hired an ex-FBI agent to administer a polygraph, which Jewell reportedly passed.

It might be wise to remember his story when someone is accused in a news story.
It ain't always so.
 
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Artist "interrogated" in New York after controversial art exhibit.
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This morning, a Boston-born performance artist, Yazmany Arboleda, tried to set up a provocative art exhibition in a vacant storefront on West 40th Street in Midtown Manhattan with the title, “The Assassination of Hillary Clinton/The Assassination of Barack Obama,” in neatly stenciled letters on the plate glass windows at street level.

By 9:30 a.m., New York City police detectives and Secret Service agents had shut down the exhibition, and building workers had quickly covered over the inflammatory title with large sheets of brown paper and blue masking tape. The gallery is across the street from the southern entrance to The New York Times building.

...

Later, Mr. Arboleda, who is 27, said in an interview: “It’s art. It’s not supposed to be harmful. It’s about character assassination — about how Obama and Hillary have been portrayed by the media.” He added, “It’s about the media.”

More: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/police-shut-down-assassination-art-exhibition/
 
We have had quite a few threads on Computer security and on porn cases.Here is a case that combines both and raises several questions.
I do not believe that she should have even been arrested let alone tried.

Julie Amero,

http://www.alternet.org/rights/46925/

Julie Amero, a 40-year-old substitute teacher from Connecticut is facing up to 40 years in prison for exposing her seventh grade class to a cascade of pornographic imagery. Amero maintains that she is a victim of a malicious software infestation that caused her computer to spawn porn uncontrollably.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/01/substitute_teacher_faces_jail.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Amero

Do some of your own research, and come to your own conclusions.
 
Victim: Me

Crime: Illegal seizure of personal property (vehicle) in violation of the 4th Amendment. No warrant, no notice. (computer error in PAID property tax)

Remedy: In litigation. Hoping to gain control of half the town.
 
I've been around with the locals lately on parking issues. It appears to me that they knowingly and intentionally make false claims of lawlessness, and then issue ultimatums based upon those unsupported assertions. The process works such that they end up stealing your car. In my case, out of 11 supposed infractions, one had validity. The most obvious clue was the fact that one car was ticketed while 100% legal, and the legal license # was hand written on the ticket, and the CURRENT TAGS were right there to see. I can't believe ANYBODY could be dumb enough to be able to copy the license # and NOT be able to also see the tags were current. Regardless, I/it was accused of being unlicensed.
I believe these people act this way not because they're to dumb to know better, but because they know there is little to zero chance of a capapble
defense, in other words, it's the beat women over the head and drag them back to the cave menatlity. Do it because you CAN, not because it's right.
Methinks the law needs to change....:)
 
Police seize earth education tour bus

Snagged from GLP and just passing it on.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message597346/pg1
Need more info.


Subject: [starhawk] Permaculture Education Bus Seized by Twin Cities Police at RNC


Hey friends, we need your help! Our Earth Activist Training Sustainable Skills Bus has been seized without cause by the police. Below is an account from the Wilsons, who have been travelling in the bus for the last seven months doing trainings in permaculture and sustainability, including ways you can help.

My own accounts from the action can be found on www.starhawk.org and I’ll be posting daily as long as I can—or sign on to my own list by emailing [email protected]. If you’re on that list, my own account follows. Please support these folks who have been doing such good work for us all. Thanks!



POLICE SEIZE PERMIBUS

Please Post Far and Wide including any Media Contacts You May Have

At approximately 6:25 pm on August 30, 2008 Minneapolis Police, Minnesota State Troopers, Ramsey County Sheriffs, Saint Paul Police, and University of Minnesota Police pulled over the Earth Activist Training Permaculture Demonstration Bus (Permibus) by exit 237 on Interstate 94.

Initially the police told the people on the bus to exit. When the people on the bus asked if they were being detained they were told that they were but police were unable to provide justification.

When asked why they pulled the bus over they refused to answer. After repeated requests to explain why the bus had been stopped Officer Honican of the Minneapolis Police explained that this was just a routine traffic stop though he did not explain the reason for the traffic stop.

The police then told Stan Wilson, the driver and registered owner of the Permibus, that they were going to impound the bus in case they wanted to execute a search warrant later. After more than an hour of being questioned by Stan and Delyla Wilson as to the legalities of their detainment and the impoundment of the Permibus, the police then informed Stan that the bus, which is legally registered as a passenger vehicle in the state of Montana, was being impounded for a commercial vehicle inspection.

Shortly afterward Sergeant Paul Davis, a commercial vehicle inspector arrived on scene. Despite the polices insistence that the reason for impoundment was for a commercial vehicle inspection the Permibus crew were not allowed to remove anything from the bus including computers, toiletries, and 17-year-old Megan Wilson's shoes.

The police finally allowed the animals to be removed from the Permibus before it was towed, leaving the Permibus family standing beside their chickens and dogs, homeless on the highway.


The Permibus was relocating from the Bedlam Theatre in Minneapolis, where they had spent the day teaching Urban Permaculture, to a friend's house in Saint Paul for a well deserved break. The Permibus has been in the Minneapolis area since August 2nd when the crew appeared at the Midtown Farmers Market for a morning of Permaculture education including Permaculture 101, chicken care, seed ball making for kids, and the Permi-puppet show.

During the past month the Permibus has parked at several local businesses and, as a neighborly gesture of respect for local police, Mr. Wilson contacted the appropriate precincts just to let them know the Permibus was in the area and had permission from the business owners to be parked on their lot. Through this, as well as other casual discussions with Minneapolis and Saint Paul police officers, the Permibus crew found the local police to be interested and respectful.

However on August 30th all that changed when, for no apparent valid reason the police pulled over and seized the Permibus. After the incident Stan Wilson said, "If the combined law enforcement of Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Ramsey County, and the State of Minnesota can pull over and impound a vehicle and home used to teach organic gardening and sustainability, one has to wonder what it is our government really fears. After all, we seek to teach people that the real meaning of homeland security is local food, fuel and energy production. For that we have had our lives stolen by government men with guns."

As of now, after repeated requests to be present at any vehicle inspection, with an list of what they are inspecting for, as well as requests to be served any warrants for searches of the vehicles prior to a search and to be present during the search the Permi-family has been unable to ascertain the current status of the Permibus.

On site Mr. Wilson was told that Officer Palmerranky was the inspector in charge of the case and would determine if the Permi-family's rights protecting them from unreasonable search and seizure would be respected. Neither Officer Palmerranky nor his supervisor has yet to return Mr. Wilson's calls.



The loss of her home and possessions is particularly difficult on seventeen-year-old Megan Wilson. Megan, a shining example of what this country asks of today's youth, has dedicated herself to making positive changes in the world. She was the youth keynote speaker at the Local to Global conference in Phoenix AZ, has taught conflict resolution at youth shelters and is the outreach coordinator for the Skills for a New Millennium Tour, the family traveling educational project.

Megan believes that, "While I understand that the world we live in is not as it should be I strive to live and teach in a way that shows the world how life could be. What I don't understand is why I can't get dressed for an evening out with friends in my own home without armed men stealing my life out from under me." The Permi-family, along with their dogs and Permaculture super-hero chickens are currently being housed by folks in the Twin Cities.


The Skills for a New Millennium Tour is a family education project that travels around the United States teaching homesteading, citizenship, and life skills at farmers markets, community gardens, churches, intentional communities, schools, and in people's living rooms. The Skills Tour is a donation supported project dedicated to providing tools for sustainable living, including Permaculture, to anyone who is interested, regardless of income. "We believe that any solution that is not accessible to the poor and urban areas is not a real solution for the future," states Delyla Wilson.

Permaculture is a design system with ethics and principles that can be applied to food production, home design, and community building in order to increase sustainability in food production, energy production, and social systems. The Permibus is a rolling demonstration of small scale sustainable living with three people, three dogs, three chickens, and a box of worms as permanent residence. The chickens and worms are part of a closed-loop food productions composting system that supports the Permibus's traveling garden.


For more information on the seizure of the Permibus, the Skills for the New Millennium Tour, or Permaculture, the Wilson's can be reached at 406-721-8427 or through email at [email protected]. You can also see pictures and read stories about the last six months of their educational adventures at permibus.livejournal.com.



To our supporters: First we ask that as many people as possible contact precinct one in Minneapolis, MN at 612-673-5701


and Mayor Rybak at



Phone: (612) 673-2100 or

call 311 or call (612) 673-3000 outside Minneapolis.

Also call the Ramsey County Sheriff

Sheriff - Bob Fletcher 651-266-9300



and demand the immediate release of the Permibus.







We are also in desperate need of donations. Though we do not yet know the full cost of getting the permibus returned we know that it will include tow fee, impound fees, and legal fees. To donate contact us directly for a local address or...

Donate On-line:

Go to: www.earthactivisttraining.org/donate.htm



Click on: Donate Now!

Under "Gift Information" write: Permibus

Under "Please send acknowledgment of this gift to" write: [email protected]

Donate by Mail:

Make check payable to: A.C.T.

On the "For" line write: Permibus

Send check to: A.C.T. 1405 Hillmount St. Austin, TX 78704
 
I need help and prayers in Boulder County, Colorado.

It started out as just a traffic ticket - but it's a Constitutional issue now. A municipal judge ruled against the evidence, I appealed but I have NEVER been permitted to examine the record of my arraignment and trial. Appeal has been dismissed for failure to complete the record.

If you know of an attorney who might help, my email is paula/at/colorado-online.biz(put the @ in place of the /at/). Something else is going on that is bigger than the ticket but it's too complicated to explain here. Judge Roy Bean is alive and well in Lafayette, Colorado.
 
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http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090216_mh_santa_fe_beating.21ba3062.html

Dash cam tape shows police beating unarmed mental patient

Victim was arrested for assaulting officers, but later cleared

06:48 PM CST on Monday, February 16, 2009

By Kevin Reece / 11 News

GALVESTON COUNTY -- Dramatic dash camera video obtained by 11 News sheds new light on a case that sent an innocent mental patient to jail.

Caught on tape: Police beating
February 16, 2009 View larger E-mail Clip More Video The video is now at the center of a civil rights lawsuit.

The beginning of the dash cam tape from a Santa Fe Police car shows Sergio Robles walking down the middle of Highway 6.

The officers stopped Sergio to ask why he's in the middle of the road.

For more than a year, no one knew the truth about what happened next except Robles' and the police officers.

The traffic stop ended with Robles in jail charged with assaulting the cops. His case would linger in the court system for more than two years.

Robles adamantly denied the accusations from the beginning and continued to insist that he was the one beaten that night.

Until recently, the truth was hidden in the rest of the dash cam videotape that finally came out during Robles' trial.

It took more than a year for Robles' attornies to get the tapes.

"It was the whole case right there. The first thing I told the jury in my closing argument was ask for the videos, watch the videos," said Paul Damico, Robles' attorney.

In the video, one officer grabs Robles' arm and slams him into the hood of a patrol car.

Robles is then taken to the ground where the officers begin throwing punches. One officer hit him in the face. The other punched him in the stomach and ribs.

He was then maced and handcuffed.

"I honestly thought that I could be killed or I was gonna die," Robles said. "I was on the pavement getting punched in the face. There was no telling what they were gonna do to me."

When a Galveston judge finally saw the video, Robles' felonies were reduced to a misdemeanor.

It took a jury just 30 minutes last week to find him not guilty of the misdemeanor.

"I'm just excited that the truth finally came out after two-and-a-half years," Robles said Monday. "I was labeled as a felon."

And there was more video and audio as Robles was being booked in jail and the officers were bragging about what they'd done.

"It was on man. He's back there right now. He's in the booking area," said one officer. "We can't even put him in a cell. We're afraid he'll die."

"But look at his face," said another officer on the tape. "We [expletive] him up. Not by choice, but by [expletive] out of necessity."

"They beat him, they used weapons on him, they maced him, they left him without water, he's throwing up, he's unconscious and they don't care," said Kelly Case, Robles' attorney. "I think it's pretty bad."

It turned out Robles was walking down the middle of Highway 6 that night because he is a schizophrenic who was off his medication. He was distraught because his father had died three days before.

"They should have been trained to handle people that are mentally ill," Robles said. "They shouldn't just automatically throw them on the car and start beating them up. I mean, that's not right."

"I think this is a huge brutality case," said Case.

Vindicated by the video, Robles has filed a civil suit against the police officers. His case against them goes to federal court later this year.

The Santa Fe Police Department says it can't comment for this story because of the lawsuit.
 
I have posted this in another thread, but thought I would add to this list anyway...

Little Rock Police officers storm the apartment of an innocent mother and young daughter, breaking down the door and throwing in smoke grenades ( though some believe these were "flash-bangs"(?) due to the loud explosions heard throughout the area. The police supposedly "quickly realized their mistake," but not before the mother was handcuffed and the child's toys searched. The mother was getting her child ready for bed when this took place. She was said to be terrified, crying, hysterical.

This is unbelievable. All of this took place because police were told someone claimed to have seen a drug dealer go in her door. Wow... Whatever happened to doing surveillance on the area for a day or two and then maybe knocking and saying LR-PD?? What about a search warrant??

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=82040&catid=2

I have requested that it be added to the Cato Institute's map of botched paramilitary police raids, but am not sure of the correct way to get it added. The map is at http://www.cato.org/raidmap ,as posted earlier.
 
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http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil...g-conduct-at-issue-in-Texas-civil-rights-case

According to the complaint filed by Haven's attorney in the case of Haven v. Dickerson in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas, on November 7, 2007, Officer Dickerson arrived at the plaintiff's car and motorcycle repair shop in a marked vehicle, apparently in response to a summons by a dissatisfied customer. Concerned about a possible lawsuit by the customer, Haven stepped out to photograph the motorcycle that was the subject of the dispute, as well as the police car parked on his property.

Officer Dickerson rolled down the window and commanded that Mike not take a picture of the clearly marked HPD squad car in public on Mike’s property.

HPD officer Dickerson then immediately exited the HPD squad car in an aggressive manner and commanded Mike to produce an identification card. Mike indicated his ID was not on him but in his business building and Mike then entered his business building to get his identification card. Mike did not want to show the officer his identification but Officer Dickerson said it was the law of Texas that when a peace officer request an identification the individual must show an identification. Mike asked Officer Dickerson to wait outside, however, Officer Dickerson entered Mike’s business building behind Mike. Mike verbally disagreed with Officer Dickerson’s demands regarding an essentially civil business matter on Mike’s business property.

At the door to Mike’s office Mike asked the Officer Dickerson to wait outside the office. Officer Dickerson followed Mike into his office and stood next to Mike at an uncomfortably close distance. Mike then retrieved his Texas driver’s license from a billfold on his office desk and gave it to Officer Dickerson.

Mike then picked up the telephone on his desk to place a call. A few seconds after giving Officer Dickerson his valid Texas driver’s license Officer Dickerson grabbed Mike’s arm and cuffed it stating that Mike was being arrested.
 
90 year old, hemiplegic wife/mother threatened with removal from home

Photo would be
of a ninety-plus
year old white-
haired woman
in a wheelchair
at home with
ninety year old
husband. . . . .

Government agency employee said she was "getting her in a nursing home." The woman and her elderly husband of seven decades needed around the clock aid. One of the agencies mandated by the federal government had given care during weekdays for less than two years. Lady had been paralyzed on one side for over ten years. Because her care was difficult, and probably to save the government money, agency sought her placement in a facility. For no valid reason, agency had government social service to investigate the home and care, along with two armed sheriff's deputies. Three social workers and two deputies and half a day each. . . .

The woman was receiving care from family, as was her husband. They were not a burden to anyone except their own family. Their family was not a burden to anyone--all responsible taxpayers.

First time this part of their story has been told online. Contact me through RPF if more information is helpful.
 
I need help and prayers in Boulder County, Colorado.

It started out as just a traffic ticket - but it's a Constitutional issue now. A municipal judge ruled against the evidence, I appealed but I have NEVER been permitted to examine the record of my arraignment and trial. Appeal has been dismissed for failure to complete the record.

If you know of an attorney who might help, my email is paula/at/colorado-online.biz(put the @ in place of the /at/). Something else is going on that is bigger than the ticket but it's too complicated to explain here. Judge Roy Bean is alive and well in Lafayette, Colorado.




I spent almost 20 years seeing crap like this. Why?

Because the "legal eagles", the so-called patriot lawyers and constitutionalists are too busy getting involved in "paytriot" schemes or chasing pirate ships. Instead of courts being swarmed with common law and constitution experts every time someone gets screwed any any kind of case from civil liberty to land, we have these people running about scheming about how you can sign certain papers a certain way and get money from the government for it. Or better yet, "fill out the right papers and win your freedom back". Yeah that works so long as you don't own anything and you lost from the start because you went and asked permission anyway.

You can't out-government the government in the government's court system.

The freedom movement has a legal wing, and it is an epic fail. Scratch them off, and let them rot until they come to their senses and actually start working for liberty.
 
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