Very Serious Allegations Made Against 2012 Ron Paul Campaign Manager Jesse Benton

Fine. Take your ball and go home if you don't like the way others play.

I've got my own set of balls.
lol. Can't say it. Nope. Can't. Better not. lolol

How refreshing it is to see others around here catch a whiff of fresh air and give this place the type of cleaning it has needed for some time.

Let's all hope Rand does the same with his operation.

(mod edit) Fixing something doesn't require aiding your enemies. It's also called shooting yourself in the foot.

The problem is that when you do said shooting, you shoot everyone else in the liberty movement in the foot too.

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Why, oh why, can't this stuff be handled in private, rather than intentionally spread all over the MSM? And why do RP supporters help our adversaries by helping spread it?

This is one of the reasons that I have all but given up hope on the liberty movement.

The only group I know that helped the adversaries was Ron Paul 2012. They made their bed, agreed to not attack Mitt Romney in February 2012, and based on all actions/evidence I have seen, instead helped him win the nomination and made it a smooth sailing nominating process for him.

You are repeatedly ignoring facts on this situation (or, leaving them out on purpose):
Fusaro first contacted Jesse Benton in private, and gave Jesse Benton 6 months to "come clean". Instead, he was insulted.
Fusaro sent Ron information on this last year, and apparently never received a response.
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jjdoyle again.

Let's keep cleaning up this place. Truth is a powerful disinfectant.

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Why, oh why, can't this stuff be handled in private, rather than intentionally spread all over the MSM? And why do RP supporters help our adversaries by helping spread it?

This is one of the reasons that I have all but given up hope on the liberty movement.

Damn straight! Certain things need to be kept in private. Who wants transparency? :rolleyes:
 
The fact Benton was Ron Paul's campaign manager, defecting to MITCH MCCONNELL??????? He deserves to go to prison... I will donate 5 btc to send Benton and McConnell to Prison.
 
The only group I know that helped the adversaries was Ron Paul 2012. They made their bed, agreed to not attack Mitt Romney in February 2012, and based on all actions/evidence I have seen, instead helped him win the nomination and made it a smooth sailing nominating process for him.

You are repeatedly ignoring facts on this situation (or, leaving them out on purpose):
Fusaro first contacted Jesse Benton in private, and gave Jesse Benton 6 months to "come clean". Instead, he was insulted.
Fusaro sent Ron information on this last year, and apparently never received a response.

I guess I'd like to know HOW he tried to reach Ron. Does he know Ron received it?
 
The fact Benton was Ron Paul's campaign manager, defecting to MITCH MCCONNELL??????? He deserves to go to prison... I will donate 5 btc to send Benton and McConnell to Prison.

Oh, puhleese. He didn't "defect" anywhere. Ron's campaign was over. I don't think I could have done it, but how the hell else are people in this movement supposed to get the experience that they need to win in short order? I remember that African-American guy that was with the RP campaign that most people around here seemed to love so much, also went to work for the Republican Party proper. I don't recall too many getting all bent out of shape over that.

Look, I have never particularly liked Benton either. Absolutely detested him in fact in the '08 election. But, keep the insults fair.
 
Why, oh why, can't this stuff be handled in private, rather than intentionally spread all over the MSM? And why do RP supporters help our adversaries by helping spread it?

This is one of the reasons that I have all but given up hope on the liberty movement.

The Department of Justice and the Washington Post, Slate, Huffpost will spread this story much more effectively than we ever could. Blame the actual participants, not the grassroots. Rand Paul is still using many of these guys. Rand already has problems from staffers that the other campaigns will take full advantage of. The Forum has very little effect. It is the Ron Paul staffers themselves that have done the damage, not forum members.
 
The Department of Justice and the Washington Post, Slate, Huffpost will spread this story much more effectively than we ever could. Blame the actual participants, not the grassroots. Rand Paul is still using many of these guys. Rand already has problems from staffers that the other campaigns will take full advantage of. The Forum has very little effect. It is the Ron Paul staffers themselves that have done the damage, not forum members.

Oh, I do blame them. But, some in this forum are helping this be spread and they are responsible for their own actions.
 
Yes, in fact, I think I have a number of times, in moments of rage and frustration.

But here am I, still plugging along, IRL as well...

And I'm glad you're still active, and posting. Some of your posts make me LOL, in certain threads (usually pertaining to the JUST US topics).
But, seeing how far back some around here have tried to kill any questioning of events, truth, and Liberty while they're at it, I don't find it odd you have had moments of rage and frustration.
 
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Oh, I do blame them. But, some in this forum are helping this be spread and they are responsible for their own actions.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/216467-will-the-2012-bribery-scandal-torpedo-rand-pauls-2016-hopes#ixzz3CFbcVFle
Reporters are way ahead of the Ron Paul Forums. They have reporters at the dept. of justice, Federal Election Commission and other courts investigating this story big time. The reporters are breaking the news created by the Ron Paul staff members actions. By the time all is said and done, the only good people left standing with be the Ron Paul Forum members. They will be key to victory or defeat for Rand Paul. Every body on Capitol Hill is reading this story and around the country. Forum members need to be aware of what is going on. And forum members have a duty to try to warn Ron Paul and Rand Paul about possible problems so they can make changes before it is too late.
 
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...l-torpedo-rand-pauls-2016-hopes#ixzz3CFbcVFle
Reporters are way ahead of the Ron Paul Forums. They have reporters at the dept. of justice, Federal Election Commission and other courts investigating this story big time. The reporters are breaking the news creating by the Ron Paul staff members actions. By the time all is said and done, the only good people left standing with be the Ron Paul Forum members. They will be key to victory or defeat for Rand Paul. Every body on Capitol Hill is reading this story and around the country. Forum members need to be aware of what is going on. And forum members have a duty to try to warn Ron Paul and Rand Paul about possible problems so they can make changes before it is too late.
The best way to keep negativity out of the news is to avoid activities that cause negativity.
 
To quote William F. Buckley http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamfb400600.html

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston Telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University."

I would rather entrust the Rand Paul 2016 campaign to the first 400 forum members at the Ron Paul Forums that to the "professional" "paid" staffers of the Ron Paul 2008, 2012 and Rand Paul 2016 campaign.
 
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Memorandum


To: Supporters, Interested Parties

From: Jesse Benton, Chief Strategist

Date: May 15, 2012

Re: Paul Campaign Convention Strategy

Every day, I see firsthand how humbled and encouraged Dr. Paul is to have the enthusiastic support of so many who are committed to revitalizing our country.

Let me be very clear. Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out or suspending his campaign.

As Dr. Paul has previously stated, he is in this race all the way to the Republican National Convention in Tampa this August.

And he is deeply grateful for every resource he has been entrusted with to run an historic campaign that continues to defy all expectations.

Looking ahead, our campaign must honor that trust by maximizing our resources to ensure the greatest possible impact at the National Convention.

So while our campaign is no longer investing in the remaining primary states, we will continue to run strong programs at District and State Conventions to win more delegates and alternate delegates to the National Convention.

To this end, our campaign has several positive and realistic goals:
1) Having recently WON Maine, we believe we can win several more states.
2) We will win party leadership positions at both the state and national levels.
3) We will continue to grow our already substantial total of delegates.​
We will head to Tampa with a solid group of delegates. Several hundred will be bound to Dr. Paul, and several hundred more, although bound to Governor Romney or other candidates, will be Ron Paul supporters.

Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.

All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.

We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.

Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.

Dr. Paul will begin this new phase of the campaign this Friday by speaking and holding several events at the Minnesota State Convention. He has also recently accepted an invitation to speak at the Texas Convention, and we are busy scheduling appearances around other State Conventions later this month and into June.

As Dr. Paul stated in his message yesterday, this fight is NOT over. We will continue fighting and expanding, and “we will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.”

But for Dr. Paul’s efforts in the remaining State Conventions to be successful, and to ensure we get as many Ron Paul delegates to Tampa as we can, he needs you to continue standing with him.

Along those lines, as you probably already know, the grassroots are holding a Money Bomb onThursday, May 17. Any money raised from that Money Bomb will go toward winning delegates and finalizing our plans for Tampa.

As those plans for the National Convention come together, we will make sure all of our delegates, whether bound or unbound, get the information and aid they need.

Your support on May 17 will also help us reach more Americans with the solutions we know can restore our nation. Each person we add to our cause strengthens our movement for the critical work that awaits us beyond Tampa.

Dr. Paul, John Tate, myself, and the entire campaign staff know what incredible sacrifices have been made by each of our supporters.

Thank you for all of your hard work and your dedication to liberty. Together, we will champion Ron Paul and his message in Tampa, and we will lay the groundwork for future victories.[/TD]
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