Very Serious Allegations Made Against 2012 Ron Paul Campaign Manager Jesse Benton

[69360]

This just makes me think more more that Michele Bachmans self injection into Ron Paul events in Minnesota, her Run for President was all to sabotage Ron Paul. This doesn't make sense the Ron Paul campaign did not need Kent Sorenson at all, this is ridiculous. If true this was done to deliberately to sabotage Ron & Rand Paul. Let's get this investigation done & over with. Its good that Ben Swann is on the case to find out the truth.

Everything is exactly as it seems here.

Michelle Bachmann ran for president because her giant ego told her she could win, not for any nefarious purpose.

Jesse Benton hired Sorenson away from his paid position at the Bachman campaign to work in a paid position for the Ron Paul campaign because the Bachmann campaign was failing.

That's all it was. If you accuse Benton of anything, you also also accuse Bachmann because she was paying Sorenson to work for her as well. Pretty much you accuse everyone who has ever worked for a political campaign.

 

[LibertyEagle]

No it is not.
It started with an ethics investigation in Iowa focusing on others. Back in May..

The investigation has led back to dealings with Benton.

For all the talk about "it is just politics" and "this is how it is done",, that is exactly what many people here hate about politics.
It was the Honesty and integrity of Ron Paul that attracted many (myself included).

Dishonesty and backroom deals are why people reject politics. It needs to be cleansed from the Liberty movement and purged from the ranks.
Even the appearance of impropriety should not be tolerated for a second,,, and certainly not defended.

I disagree as to the reason. However, I never said that if this is true, that I agreed with it being done, if it did indeed happen as posited. But, I damn sure am not going to jump to a conclusion and proceed to drag our own guys through the mud as if they were already guilty. Some here, however, seem to jump at any chance to get on the bash wagon.

I don't have all the facts about this thing yet and neither do you.

 

[Miguel]

If you accuse Benton of anything, you also also accuse Bachmann because she was paying Sorenson to work for her as well. Pretty much you accuse everyone who has ever worked for a political campaign.

That's exactly what I am implying, Mrs. "IRS" Bachmann sabotaging the Ron Paul campaign. As for the "accuse everyone who has ever worked for a political campaign" out of all campaigns the Ron Paul campaign you work for Ron Paul because you believe in him not the I'll work for Ron Paul if I get paid more than anyone else that has no place. That's all if & that's a big if all these accusations are true.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The campaign 1099'd the employees. And yes, when you set out to do illegal things, you end up doing illegal things. It's not a stretch to believe that people willing to engage in bribery and money laundering would also not be adverse to tax evasion.

I find that extremely hard to believe given how very careful they were not to break even FEC rules.

 

[pcosmar]

I disagree as to the reason.

How,?, why.?
Des Moines lawyer Weinhardt appointed to investigate Sen. Sorenson ethics caseMay 10, 2013
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/...-investigate-sen-sorenson-ethics-case/article

FBI PROBE: Sorenson Being InvestigatedMay 20, 2013
http://whotv.com/2013/05/20/fbi-probe-sorenson-being-investigated/
FBI Investigating Bachmann Campaign, Including Alleged Sorenson
http://theiowarepublican.com/2013/f...campaign-including-alleged-sorenson-payments/

 

[69360]

That's exactly what I am implying, Mrs. "IRS" Bachmann sabotaging the Ron Paul campaign. As for the "accuse everyone who has ever worked for a political campaign" out of all campaigns the Ron Paul campaign you work for Ron Paul because you believe in him not the I'll work for Ron Paul if I get paid more than anyone else that has no place. That's all if & that's a big if all these accusations are true.

Big? This happens in every election. This may be a stunning revelation to some of you, but people get paid to work for campaigns and sometimes jump ship whether it be for more money or because the campaign failed.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Pcosmar, I am talking about why this whole thing is being pushed.

 

[Miguel]

Big? This happens in every election. This may be a stunning revelation to some of you, but people get paid to work for campaigns and sometimes jump ship whether it be for more money or because the campaign failed.

Its not a stunning revelation. True Ron Paul supporters are not about switching campaigns to who pays more, if that was the case we would all be Obama Romney Clinton etc. supporters

 

[angelatc]

You do realize that this is being done to hurt Rand and the liberty movement in general, don't you? Are you still rejoicing? Why on earth do you think this is being drug up right now? Because they are looking for anything to stop Rand. They haven't been able to find anything to throw at him that will stick yet, so now they're approaching it from another direction. If they can destroy our inroads into the Iowa GOP, in addition to destroying any relationship our guys had with McConnell, then hell, that's two sticks with one stone.

This is roughly same reason that politicians shouldn't cheat. Once you do something wrong, you're vulnerable to exposure. Sunshine is a good thing - it makes the insects scurry away.

If Benton didn't want this stuff to possibly come out in the future, he should have thought about that before the deal was made and paid. Blaming the whistleblower is never the correct position.

 

[angelatc]

I find that extremely hard to believe given how very careful they were not to break even FEC rules.

I think it probably came from C4L.

 

[fr33]

Pcosmar, I am talking about why this whole thing is being pushed.

At least the people concerned about wrong doing have some evidence to base those concerns on. You've been attacking Fusaro's character based on a hunch.

 

[pcosmar]

Pcosmar, I am talking about why this whole thing is being pushed.

Politics,, and because it can be.

If there had been no bribes,, there would be no story. Nothing to investigate.

If people had not been playing politics as usual there would be NO Connection.

Play with fire,,, get burned. It's as simple as that.

Abstain from all appearance of evil.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Pcosmar, I am talking about why this whole thing is being pushed.

It seems that you're more interested in censoring discussion about it than concerned that there may be something there to discuss. Why is that? If we really want change, we have to lead the way. We have to change the way it's been done before.

 

[LibertyEagle]

It seems that you're more interested in censoring discussion about it than concerned that there may be something there to discuss. Why is that? If we really want change, we have to lead the way. We have to change the way it's been done before.

 

[LibertyEagle]

At least the people concerned about wrong doing have some evidence to base those concerns on. You've been attacking Fusaro's character based on a hunch.

I commented on what he has done. Tape recording phone calls and all the rest. That isn't a hunch.

 

[angelatc]

He said "I'm sure Benton knew." That was clearly speculation -- speculation that is probably right, mind you -- but one that doesn't actually PROVE any wrongdoing directly linked to Jesse.

The guy who was talking to Sorenson speculated, saying he was sure Benton knew. Sorenson responded with, "Oh, I know Jesse knows."

 

[Badger Paul]

"Anything you can do to hurt Rand, you will do it."

Actually a lot of us believe it would do Rand a world of good if Jesse Benton is working at a car wash somewhere in 2016 instead of his presidential campaign.

 

[cajuncocoa]

"Anything you can do to hurt Rand, you will do it."

Actually a lot of us believe it would do Rand a world of good if Jesse Benton is working at a car wash somewhere in 2016 instead of his presidential campaign.

EXACTLY.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Actually a lot of us believe it would do Rand a world of good if Jesse Benton is working at a car wash somewhere in 2016 instead of his presidential campaign.

Well said. We want Benton out of the campaign before his next pathetic blunder because we want to help Rand Paul and the liberty movement. Burying our heads in the sand and saying 'nothing to see here' will only enable this dolt to make more critical mistakes.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Big? This happens in every election. This may be a stunning revelation to some of you, but people get paid to work for campaigns and sometimes jump ship whether it be for more money or because the campaign failed.

It's against Iowa Senate ethics rules for Senate members to receive pay from presidential campaigns. That's part of the reason why there is an investigation into this.