Venezuela to Host Latin American Meeting Against Media Terrorism

[kimo]

Venezuela to Host Latin American Meeting Against Media Terrorism


Mérida, March 24, 2008 (venezuelanalysis.com)- Andrés Izarra, the Venezuelan Minister of Communication and Information, announced that a Latin American Meeting against Media Terrorism will take place this coming weekend in Caracas, whose main theme will be the media war waged by domestic and foreign private media against the Venezuelan and other like-minded leftist governments in the region...

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3297

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

Venezuela to Host Latin American Meeting Against Media Terrorism


Mérida, March 24, 2008 (venezuelanalysis.com)- Andrés Izarra, the Venezuelan Minister of Communication and Information, announced that a Latin American Meeting against Media Terrorism will take place this coming weekend in Caracas, whose main theme will be the media war waged by domestic and foreign private media against the Venezuelan and other like-minded leftist governments in the region...

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3297

this is yet another attempt by Chavez to stifle dissent. He's finding media that opposes his rule and destroying it. Think about ithis, what would we think if Bush decided to shut down domestic "private media" that was hostile to him?

people on these forums need to get off Chavez's jock

 

[kimo]

this is yet another attempt by Chavez to stifle dissent. He's finding media that opposes his rule and destroying it. Think about ithis, what would we think if Bush decided to shut down domestic "private media" that was hostile to him?

people on these forums need to get off Chavez's jock

Yup, you misunderstood it again. I never said that Chavez is an angel, but there`re hundreds of countries around the world, that perhaps "need more attention" if administration so determent in promoting democracy and liberty..look at Iraq, mission accomplished, but job not done yet.
Btw, nacis started WWII by setting falls flag op and mms "made" it`s work. It´s a worldwide known fact.
..so perhaps it´s nothing wrong that independent country is to arrange this global forum with purpose to go deeper in to something.
I doubt you agree with it, or?

 

[hairball]

Considering it is being brought to light the money Chavez has throan at FARC, one of the most vile terrorist organisations in South America, it is little wonder he wants to deflect critisism off him. Shouldn't be a hard sell to his people, as Chavez has already jailed or closed most of the opposition newspapers.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

Considering it is being brought to light the money Chavez has throan at FARC, one of the most vile terrorist organisations in South America, it is little wonder he wants to deflect critisism off him. Shouldn't be a hard sell to his people, as Chavez has already jailed or closed most of the opposition newspapers.

yup

 

[SeanEdwards]

What the hell is media terrorism?



Chavez is holding a conference to protest Pauly Shore movies?

 

[sophocles07]

this is yet another attempt by Chavez to stifle dissent. He's finding media that opposes his rule and destroying it. Think about ithis, what would we think if Bush decided to shut down domestic "private media" that was hostile to him?

Correction: this is like someone shutting down FOX news.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

Correction: this is like someone shutting down FOX news.

therefore freedom of speech is only ok when u agree with the speech?

who was it that said "if we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all?"

once again, Chavez just gets the benefit of the doubt on these forums because he is anti-american. People here encourage behavior by him that would get Bush condemned on these same forums. No damn consistency

 

[sophocles07]

therefore freedom of speech is only ok when u agree with the speech?

who was it that said "if we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all?"

once again, Chavez just gets the benefit of the doubt on these forums because he is anti-american. People here encourage behavior by him that would get Bush condemned on these same forums. No damn consistency

The point, quite obviously, is that Chavez's opponents are big business-funded, US-supportive propaganda sources. It's not that he's shutting down someone like Lew Rockwell or some other independent type source; he's against those that are WILLINGLY against the people.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

The point, quite obviously, is that Chavez's opponents are big business-funded, US-supportive propaganda sources. It's not that he's shutting down someone like Lew Rockwell or some other independent type source; he's against those that are WILLINGLY against the people.

who makes that distinction? Oh, Chavez does? Convenient.

Since when does pro-business mean anti-people? I thought i was on a RON PAUL forum, as in Ron Paul the economic libertarian

not a socialist like Chavez

 

[notcarljung]

The point, quite obviously, is that Chavez's opponents are big business-funded, US-supportive propaganda sources. It's not that he's shutting down someone like Lew Rockwell or some other independent type source; he's against those that are WILLINGLY against the people.

Yes, but it's a slippery slope. Like the patriot act.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

Yes, but it's a slippery slope. Like the patriot act.

exactly.

again, there seems to be a double standard.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

To be perfectly frank, I have hated Chavez from day one; however, after 1) having experienced the media assassination of Ron Paul, and 2) learning that all the war-drum rhetoric started almost immediately after Venezuela started selling their oil in Euros instead of Dollars; I began questioning everything that I thought I knew about Chavez as having come from completely untrustworthy sources.

As of now, I am neither pro nor con. I don't know anything about Chavez and Venezuela that has not come at some point from the MSM, and therefore all I can say is that I do not know enough to form an opinion, and frankly I just don't care enough about it to bother to do the research.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

To be perfectly frank, I have hated Chavez from day one; however, after 1) having experienced the media assassination of Ron Paul, and 2) learning that all the war-drum rhetoric started almost immediately after Venezuela started selling their oil in Euros instead of Dollars; I began questioning everything that I thought I knew about Chavez as having come from completely untrustworthy sources.

As of now, I am neither pro nor con. I don't know anything about Chavez and Venezuela that has not come at some point from the MSM, and therefore all I can say is that I do not know enough to form an opinion, and frankly I just don't care enough about it to bother to do the research.

yet you comment on this forum...

i see what you mean though. I am of the position that he is a dictator who uses legitemate beefs against US policy to increase his own oppression

and, he admits to being a socialist, which is enough to turn me off

 

[GunnyFreedom]

yet you comment on this forum...

I think you meant 'thread' instead of 'forum' and yeah, this was a thread where people were sharing their opinion about Chavez, so I thought that this would be the right place to share my own opinion about Chavez.

i see what you mean though. I am of the position that he is a dictator who uses legitemate beefs against US policy to increase his own oppression

I think that's probably true, but seeing as how all the 'nasty stuff' begun to come to light right after he switched from Dollars to Euros, then I tend to class all the anti-Venezuela media attention in the same category as all the anti-Iraq media attention that came out right after Hussein started selling his oil in Euros; and all the anti-Iran media attention that came out right after Ahmadinejad started selling his oil in Euros.

Does that mean that I think Hussein and Ahmadinejad were/are good people? hell no! But if I am going to question the press that came out of Iraq and Iran, then I have to question the press that comes out of Venezuela too.

and, he admits to being a socialist, which is enough to turn me off

You and me both. But I'm still not going to allow the media to decide my opinion of the man any more than I allowed the media to determine my opinion on Hussein and Ahmadinejad.

 

[raiha]

Has anyone read what John Perkins has to say about Chavez in "The Secret History of the American Empire" which is the sequel to "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?" Chavez stood up to Corporatocracy as thousands of his people had been screwed by the IMF and the World Bank...

He thinks and acts in the interests of his people truckloads more than American powers that be think of theirs, so maybe the criticism would be more helpfully targeted at the folkse at home...

 

[hairball]

Has anyone read what John Perkins has to say about Chavez in "The Secret History of the American Empire" which is the sequel to "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?" Chavez stood up to Corporatocracy as thousands of his people had been screwed by the IMF and the World Bank...

He thinks and acts in the interests of his people truckloads more than American powers that be think of theirs, so maybe the criticism would be more helpfully targeted at the folkse at home...

Anyone who believes that Chavez is interested in his people, also has the delusion that Castro is a good and great leader.

Chavez is a thug of the standard, South American strongman mould. He has delusions of grandeur. There is absolutely NOTHING noble about the theivery he has committed in 'standing up to Corporatocracy'. Noone at the bottom has gotten anything but lies and clubs on the head if they dissent.

 

[kimo]

Anyone who believes that Chavez is interested in his people, also has the delusion that Castro is a good and great leader.

Perhaps he isn`t, but exactly these people masses saved him when US alleged and improved coup attempt in 2002.
Wounder how many of native Iraqis would do that to save Nouri Maliki ass..

 

[hairball]

Perhaps he isn`t, but exactly these people masses saved him when US alleged and improved coup attempt in 2002.
Wounder how many of native Iraqis would do that to save Nouri Maliki ass..

In Iraq's case, probably no more than helped Saddam when our tanks rolled in. His people weren't happy enough with Saddam to save him.

And what coup attempt? Chavez has used the propaganda that he survived a coup attempt to bolster his own power base, and make further grabs on private property.

 

[kimo]

And what coup attempt?

" Nah, that one..!"


2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Venezuelan coup attempt of 2002 was a failed coup d'état on April 11, 2002. The coup plotters were successful for 47 hours in overthrowing the democratically-elected government of Venezuela, detaining the head of state President Hugo Chávez, dissolving the democratically-elected National Assembly, dissolving the Supreme Court, and repealing the country's constitution.[1]

Venezuelan Federation of Chambers of Commerce (Fedecámaras) president Pedro Carmona was installed as interim president. In Caracas, the coup led to a pro-Chávez uprising by Venezuelan citizens that the Metropolitan Police attempted to suppress. Key sectors of the military[2] and parts of the anti-Chávez movement refused to back Carmona.[3][4] The pro-Chávez Presidential Guard eventually retook the Miraflores presidential palace without firing a shot, leading to the collapse of the Carmona government and the re-installation of Chávez as president.

The coup was publicly condemned by Latin American nations (the Rio Group presidents were gathered together in San José, Costa Rica, at the time, and were able to issue a joint communiqué) and international organizations. The United States and Chile quickly acknowledged the de facto pro-US Carmona government, but ended up condemning the coup after it had been defeated.[5]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'état_attempt

Chavez has used the propaganda that he survived a coup attempt to bolster his own power base, and make further grabs on private property.

"Of course he did..!"

MASS UPRISING DEFEATS CIA COUP IN VENEZUELA
By Andy McInerney

http://www.iacenter.org/Venezuela/venez_uprising.htm

Venezuela coup linked to Bush team
Specialists in the 'dirty wars' of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez

Observer Worldview
Ed Vulliamy in New York
Sunday April 21 2002

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/21/usa.venezuela

The War On Democracy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...306&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

and etc etc etc...

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BTW, thanks in enlightning me about Iraq occupation, but friendly I would rather to receive english grammar lessons from AmericaFyeah92, than to discuss this matter with you..