Values Voter Straw Poll Results

[LibertyEagle]

My opinion, Ron Paul did not do his job well last night. I would have liked to see him take Huckabee to task on the war issue better. True, I missed the firstpart of the debate but it is my belief that if Mr.Paul would have just articulated the difference between this war and a just war principle more clearly he would have had better numbers at the conclusion.

I am a Christian through and through, down to the very core of me! I voted for George Bush twice. (I have prayed and asked forgiveness for this already.) I never supported the war but saw it as a necessary evil until the real reason for the war became evident to me and now I am fervently against this war and George Bush and even more so in support of Ron Paul..

Having said all this, 2nd place is pretty good in this one for our good Dr!

Chris R.

Agreed. Those Yes/No questions hurt Dr. Paul. They were such loaded questions. I feel sure he could have explained the rationale for his positions, but unfortunately none were given the opportunity. He could have used one of his free minutes, but then he wouldn't have been able to use it for his final statement.

Hard call.

 

[james1906]

Agreed. Those Yes/No questions hurt Dr. Paul. They were such loaded questions. I feel sure he could have explained the rationale for his positions, but unfortunately none were given the opportunity. He could have used one of his free minutes, but then he wouldn't have been able to use it for his final statement.

Hard call.

Yeah, they should have allowed any lone dissenter a few seconds to explain his position.

I don't think George Washington felt he had the authority to tell an innkeeper how to run his business, yet when RP takes that position, it looks like Ron Paul: Pornoholic.

 

[stevedasbach]

That's simply not true, Marshall. The matching funds come from people who freely checked on their tax return to have an additional dollar go into this fund.

It's not an additional dollar. It is a dollar of the taxes you are already paying in taxes. Since no other spending is decreased by the dollar, it either increases the debt or ultimately causes taxes to go up.

The whole thing is a scam to make it appear voluntary. Most people see through it, which is why only around 10% check the box.

 

[stevedasbach]

Think Huckabee's requesting an offering TWICE says anything?!?

Yeah -- he's desperate for money. He may be getting love from the MSM (and the resulting bump in the polls) but it's not translating into serious donations. He's got to be hoping that the evangelicals open up their wallets over the next 12 days, or he'll probably be posting some unimpressive 3rd quarter numbers.

 

[maggiebott]

I saw the whole debate and the bullshit that followed. For Huckabee to win, had to be a setup. The R.P. supporters were screaming and again...they played tricks with his microphone.
It was purely a waste of time to see the loaded questions that required a yes or no. What really amazed me is how these god loving peeps felt that Paul's position on pulling out of the war was dissasterous. It's a scam, plain and simple.

 

[Original_Intent]

Yeah the guy after the debate saying that you would have to be insane to support pulling the troops out of Iraq....at least they were smart enough to not have the rabbi be the one to push the war button.

 

[stevedasbach]

20/20 Hindsight

Yeah, they should have allowed any lone dissenter a few seconds to explain his position.

I don't think George Washington felt he had the authority to tell an innkeeper how to run his business, yet when RP takes that position, it looks like Ron Paul: Pornoholic.

Last night after the debate, I thought of a way Dr. Paul could have neutralized those ridiculous Yes/No questions. (No criticism intended -- hindsight is always 20/20).

The first time they were asked one of those ridiculous, loaded, multi-part questions, Dr. Paul could have taken one of his minutes and responded something like this:

"I face situations like this question all the time in Congress. Unconstitional provisions are tacked on to bills that otherwise have merit, that members feel they have to vote in favor of. The inevitable result is the growth of government spending and power, and the loss of liberty."

"While I agree with provisions ______ in the question, the Constitution gives the federal government no authority to address the remaining issues, which are properly left to the states. Accordingly, as I so often do in Congress, I must vote no."

That would have put the rest of his no votes in context, while reinforcing his image as "Dr. No".

 

[hard@work]

Not all of the 2,000 audience members were allowed to vote -- the straw poll was restricted to approximately 350 delegates pre-selected by debate organizers.

 

[undergroundrr]

The poll included 340 delegates hand-selected by 40 of America's social conservative activists and opinion makers.

I find it amazing that a candidate openly challenged federal bans on prostitution and drugs and still won over 13% of these hand-selected right-wing religious fundamentalists. I don't know how he got even 1 vote. This can only be described as political alchemy.