Vaccines can cause mental retardation in children?

[fisharmor]

Mr Rand Paul, meet Mrs Debra Medina. She will be your guide as you enter the politically irrelevant zone.

 

[HVACTech]

Is he taking the same position that they can cure autisum?

 

[idiom]

It would be impossible to explain why vaccines don't work and the dangers of them in this forum.
I would like to recommend, among several books with serious scientific discussions on this subject, Tim O'Shea's book "Vaccination is not Immunization", where he discusses each and every vaccine. I believe it should be a must read for every parent.

 

[Bergie Bergeron]

Mr Rand Paul, meet Mrs Debra Medina. She will be your guide as you enter the politically irrelevant zone.

Nope.

 

[bocelli]

Unfortunately, I could not open this video.

 

[SilentBull]

Mr Rand Paul, meet Mrs Debra Medina. She will be your guide as you enter the politically irrelevant zone.

Not even close. What Rand said is being completely distorted. The media is taking advantage of the fact that most people are just too stupid to think about anything that's too complex. Being pro vaccines while acknowledging the rare cases of side effects....that's just too much for the average moron to think about. You can only be pro or against, and you better ridicule the other side, or you'll be accused of agreeing with them.

 

[navy-vet]

It would be impossible to explain why vaccines don't work and the dangers of them in this forum.
I would like to recommend, among several books with serious scientific discussions on this subject, Tim O'Shea's book "Vaccination is not Immunization", where he discusses each and every vaccine. I believe it should be a must read for every parent.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

M-M-R® II
(MEASLES, MUMPS, and
RUBELLA VIRUS VACCINE LIVE)
DESCRIPTION
M-M-R® II (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live) is a live virus vaccine for vaccination against measles (rubeola), mumps, and rubella (German measles).


Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) (see CONTRAINDICATIONS); subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM); transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis; polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

What they are trying to do is to distort his position to claim he linked vaccines to autism. This is a lie. The side effects he is describing are well documented (if rare) reactions to adjuvants like thimerosal that cause seizures, high fever, and swelling of the brain that may lead to permanent brain damage, and showed up during clinical trials. The warnings for this reaction are printed directly on the product packaging inserts, because they actually happen and are therefore required by law. Doctor Rand Paul does not now, nor has he ever linked vaccines to autism.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

My nephew developed encephalitis immediately after receiving the DTAP vaccine. The diagnosis came from the head of pediatrics at one of the top hospitals in my city. My nephew is also autistic. No one can say for certain whether the encephalitis is what caused his autism but there's no doubt what caused the encephalitis. Looking very quickly, you'll find that brain swelling can cause a host of permanent neurological issues one of which is mental retardation.

Encephalitis is a well known and well documented side effect that affects a very small minority of recipients.

 

[LibertárioBR]

Bullshit!

Huge Meta-Study Of Vaccines Reveals No Link To Autism
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/huge-meta-study-vaccines-reveals-no-link-autism

 

[Working Poor]

It would be impossible to explain why vaccines don't work and the dangers of them in this forum.
I would like to recommend, among several books with serious scientific discussions on this subject, Tim O'Shea's book "Vaccination is not Immunization", where he discusses each and every vaccine. I believe it should be a must read for every parent.

I have not read this book but I am looking for something, anything that will make people think. I am a poster at some pretty heavy duty liberal sites who all think vaccines are better than anything to prevent and control disease outbreaks. I already know that they would call this guy a quack because he is a chiropractor. Do you have anything that a smart assed liberal could not refute? Thank you in advance. I have posted several of the articles here that are are questioning vaccines and am getting torn to shreds by all the people who claim to be health care professionals. Or if you don't mind registering come over and do some battle with me here

 

[Ronin Truth]

They need to develop the next generation of voters somehow.

 

[freejack]

Bullshit!

Huge Meta-Study Of Vaccines Reveals No Link To Autism
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/huge-meta-study-vaccines-reveals-no-link-autism

These kind of articles really irk me. Like GunnyFreedom pointed out, vaccines can and do cause encephalitis in rare cases as it did with my nephew. Encephalitis can cause brain damage. How can anyone claim with certainty that vaccines never cause autism? I understand the social ramifications of associating vaccines with autism but the truth is, there IS a link.

I bet most people are unaware that pharmaceuticals are settling with parents of children hurt by vaccines under the condition that they never speak of the settlement with anyone. My nephew's pediatrician had another patient that fought a long battle with a vaccine maker which eventually led to such a settlement. This is just one out of probably hundreds of cases across the country that people will never hear about. Vaccines are dangerous to some children. The drug makers know it. Some enlightened doctors know it. But the truth will continue to be suppressed by money.

 

[AuH20]

Boom goes the dynamite! Rand Paul must be a wackjob for his outlandish comments.


http://sharylattkisson.com/audio-cdc-addresses-allegations-on-vaccine-autism-link-omission/

CDC Senior Scientist William Thompson has alleged that a 2004 study he co-authored omitted key data that would have revealed a link between autism and a commonly-required childhood vaccine, MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella).

“I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism,” said Thompson in a statement issued through his attorney Wednesday.

Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC
Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC
The CDC and Thompson’s co-author Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC Director of Immunization Safety, defend the study as originally published.

At issue are steps the researchers allegedly took when they discovered a statistically significant link between MMR vaccine and autism among African American boys. They “refined” the analysis by excluding study children for which a Georgia birth certificate could not be produced, and used birth certificate data to “adjust” the results. When they did so, the strong statistical association diminished.

In a statement, Thompson implies his CDC employer and colleagues have not always been forthright with the public about vaccine safety issues. But DeStefano argues their final analysis produced more valid results.

Falsifying data? Say it ain't so, Jonas Salk!

 

[bocelli]

I have not read this book but I am looking for something, anything that will make people think. I am a poster at some pretty heavy duty liberal sites who all think vaccines are better than anything to prevent and control disease outbreaks. I already know that they would call this guy a quack because he is a chiropractor. Do you have anything that a smart assed liberal could not refute? Thank you in advance. I have posted several of the articles here that are are questioning vaccines and am getting torn to shreds by all the people who claim to be health care professionals. Or if you don't mind registering come over and do some battle with me here

Hello, Working Poor (I don't like that user name, why not "Lazy Rich"? LOL!).
That is really the best book. Dr. O'Shea has made it a religion to respect the scientific method, and his research is by far the most solid and honest. That is why he is so passionate about this subject; he has studied it thoroughly and he has uncovered a truth that most of the professional world -mainly MDs- has a hard time accepting due to years and years of brain washing (and to a large extent, money in their pockets as well). Having said this, I have known many MDs who know the truth about vaccines but will not reveal it to their patients because they are afraid to be sued.
If someone will dismiss Dr. O'Shea because he is a chiropractor, then you are having a debate with the wrong person. Whoever does that will not examine the issue with intellectual honesty, they will call Dr. O'Shea -or you- names and will never, ever study his scientific conclusions.
If I may suggest something to you -which I have learned after passionately trying to make people see some issues-, provide the information and your sources one time. If a person is intellectually honest, they will examine the evidence with open eyes and one time will suffice; most people will not do it.
I would gladly join the discussion you are proposing, but as I mentioned, there has been so much bullying and brain washing with this issue, that in my case, at least, I have lost the willingness to insist. Good luck!

 

[presence]

Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness

Permanent brain damage
Permanent brain damage
Permanent brain damage
Permanent brain damage
Permanent brain damage
Permanent brain damage

 

[Antischism]

He made an idiotic statement that he's backing down from now. Here's his "clarification," if you will:

"I did not say vaccines caused disorders, just that they were temporally related -- I did not allege causation," Paul said. "I support vaccines, I receive them myself and I had all of my children vaccinated."

 

[freejack]

He made an idiotic statement that he's backing down from now. Here's his "clarification," if you will:

"I did not say vaccines caused disorders, just that they were temporally related -- I did not allege causation," Paul said. "I support vaccines, I receive them myself and I had all of my children vaccinated."

His initial statement was correct. How he's revising it now is idiotic.

 

[jjdoyle]

He made an idiotic statement that he's backing down from now. Here's his "clarification," if you will:

"I did not say vaccines caused disorders, just that they were temporally related -- I did not allege causation," Paul said. "I support vaccines, I receive them myself and I had all of my children vaccinated."

Wait. He said what you quoted in a clarification? Is there a link to it?