Vaccinations and my daughter

[SweetMona]

You are entitled to disagree with my opinion but I ask you why can't the mother just wait two years and make sure there's no candidatias growth and no leaky gut syndrome which could be attributed to Autism, ADHD, severe allergic reaction to foods, etc....

Read this link and explain why you do not agree with this. Thank you.
http://healthychristianliving.com/leaky_gut_syndrome.htm

 

[yongrel]

You are entitled to disagree with my opinion but I ask you why can't the mother just wait two years and make sure there's no candidatias growth and no leaky gut syndrome which could be attributed to Autism, ADHD, severe allergic reaction to foods, etc....

Why can't the mother take two years? Polio springs to mind. The measles is another ones. Diphtheria ain't too much fun. Whooping cough is no laugh. So on and so forth.

 

[ItsTime]

You just named a bunch of illnesses that have almost a ZERO chance a child will get it.

Why can't the mother take two years? Polio springs to mind. The measles is another ones. Diphtheria ain't too much fun. Whooping cough is no laugh. So on and so forth.

 

[yongrel]

You just named a bunch of illnesses that have almost a ZERO chance a child will get it.

Thanks to vaccines.

 

[ItsTime]

what is the chance of getting the black death? what vaccine did they use?

Thanks to vaccines.

 

[SweetMona]

And the milk coming from mother's breastfeeding will take care of his health... building a stronger immune system first which would prevent leaky gut syndrome (that is no laugh too).... By the time he becomes a healthy child then he could have the sequential shots prior to kindergarten school. It is okay to wait few more years, that's nothing wrong with it...

 

[yongrel]

what is the chance of getting the black death? what vaccine did they use?

They burned London to the ground. That helped. Ask Samuel Pepys.

 

[soapmistress]

I delay vaccinations until the first year in conjunction with exclusive breastfeeding for the first 6 months and then breastfeeding + food throughout the rest of the first two years.

 

[pinkmandy]

Mona,

There is nothing you can do other than send her some links to websites. She must do her own research and learn things for hersel (or the hard way, I did that and it's the worst way to learn ).

I do hope she is breastfeeding because if she is then she is passing on all of her antibodies to her baby. I pity people like her who don't do their own research and those on this board who are so convinced everyone will die w/out vaccinations (not really because they have been shown REPEATEDLY why that isn't true). There is very little discussion to be had with them- they aren't interested in discussion so it is best to ignore them. There are here to bait and that is all. Several people have posed questions, they ignore them. They can't wrap their heads around the truth, they cling to the old lies that vaccinations brought about the end of diseases and kids who don't have them are living in danger of death.

You're a good friend but try not to stress out too much. One thing that may help is printing out the warning label from all the vaccinations themselves (encephalitis, intestinal damage, chronic ear infections, death, etc.) and enlarging the side effects section (the print is SO small) and giving her those along w/the ingredients list. They used to have those on the CDC website.

 

[Cinderella]

Why can't the mother take two years? Polio springs to mind. The measles is another ones. Diphtheria ain't too much fun. Whooping cough is no laugh. So on and so forth.

if everyone elses kids are vaccinated and "protected" from these diseases then her baby should be fine....she is a good friend with reasonable concerns and i think waiting a couple years would be best for him especially considering his health conditions....but the thing is, for many years, people have been made to believe these vaccines are for our better good so it is very difficult to convince them otherwise...


********i really hope everything turns out ok

 

[yongrel]

if everyone elses kids are vaccinated and "protected" from these diseases then her baby should be fine

That's like saying, "Everyone else on the road has car insurance, so I don't need to get it."

It's irresponsible and jeopardizes the health of the child.

 

[Kade]

If you have been paying attention, the scientific community is at odds with itself over this issue.

Unfortunately, the scientific articles you happen to believe have also been discredited. Real evidence and anecdotal evidence also suggest you are wrong. I hope you look into this issue further, because right now you are lost and you are not helping people.

Do not speak for a group of people you have demonstrated you know nothing about.

Seriously.

The only people in disagreement are morons and people who have never had a paper peer reviewed who continue to call themselves scientists.

 

[Kade]

Do you know how ridiculous this thread is... my word, breathtaking inanity.

Get your damn kids vaccinated you morons.

 

[pinkmandy]

Do you know how ridiculous this thread is... my word, breathtaking inanity.

Get your damn kids vaccinated you morons.

I did. Then his fever shot up. Seizures. Encephalitis. Guess what? That's a KNOWN side effect on the vaccine insert. The next day? He could no longer speak. AT ALL. He finally started again after a few months but it all came out wrong and was literally jibberish. I have been advised NOT to vaccinate anymore by our pediatrician.

I'm so sick of people like you jumping into threads like this. You have ZERO personal experience and have avoided every question on this thread posed by anti-vaccinators. Instead, you are a mouthpiece for those who spread lies like vaccines wiped out diseases (instead of researching for yourself and finding that most diseases had already declined significantly prior to the introduction of vaccines) or the absolute nonesense that vaccines are safe (and if we don't fight them in Iraq we have to fight them here, right?). They have NEVER been proven safe. Do yourself a favor and think for yourself instead of spreading propaganda.

Feel free to prove me wrong and actually give thoughtful answers to some of the questions posed. Otherwise, you're wasting your time here.

 

[Kade]

I did. Then his fever shot up. Seizures. Encephalitis. Guess what? That's a KNOWN side effect on the vaccine insert. The next day? He could no longer speak. AT ALL. He finally started again after a few months but it all came out wrong and was literally jibberish. I have been advised NOT to vaccinate anymore by our pediatrician.

I'm so sick of people like you jumping into threads like this. You have ZERO personal experience and have avoided every question on this thread posed by anti-vaccinators. Instead, you are a mouthpiece for those who spread lies like vaccines wiped out diseases (instead of researching for yourself and finding that most diseases had already declined significantly prior to the introduction of vaccines) or the absolute nonesense that vaccines are safe (and if we don't fight them in Iraq we have to fight them here, right?). They have NEVER been proven safe. Do yourself a favor and think for yourself instead of spreading propaganda.

Feel free to prove me wrong and actually give thoughtful answers to some of the questions posed. Otherwise, you're wasting your time here.

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience. It's rare, but it happens. While we are at it, we should ban cars of the street, outlaw sex and any other activity that has the potential of harm...

 

[pinkmandy]

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience. It's rare, but it happens. While we are at it, we should ban cars of the street, outlaw sex and any other activity that has the potential of harm...

No, if you were actually sorry you'd do your own research before making comments and calling people morons. It isn't just me you should apologize to.

As for banning cars or anything else that causes harm, that's ridiculous. The govt doesn't mandate we have sex, drive cars, or anything else that could kill us (or our children). That's MY problem w/it. Healthcare is a personal decision. Putting the power back into the hands of the parents who are then able to REFUSE to inject their children with anything that isn't proven safe will result in accountability and safer vaccinations. It will also result in more discussion about vaccinations.


Man, how I'd love to have a govt sanctioned product that every single American is told they must obtain AND on top of that to not be liable for any damage I cause with my product? Wow.

 

[hairball]

Kade, we agree. Reactions happen, but are rare. One of the major reasons for many of the childhood diseases being defeated is the vaccination programs instituted. Now they seem too eager to put too much into kids, but there are vaccines that are critical to the health and well-being of the child. As a grand-father, my brothers and I were vassinated, and are my own kids, my grand kids, my wife, and her whole family. In four generations of kids being vaccinated, not one of us has ever had an adverse reaction.

Certainly beats pertusis and polio.

 

[yongrel]

Kade, we agree. Reactions happen, but are rare. One of the major reasons for many of the childhood diseases being defeated is the vaccination programs instituted. Now they seem too eager to put too much into kids, but there are vaccines that are critical to the health and well-being of the child. As a grand-father, my brothers and I were vassinated, and are my own kids, my grand kids, my wife, and her whole family. In four generations of kids being vaccinated, not one of us has ever had an adverse reaction.

Certainly beats pertusis and polio.

When my grandfather was 9 years old, 1 in 3 children in his town had polio, including him. Epidemics are fun, huh?

Thanks to vaccines, we don't see that anymore. I'll take a 1 in 1,000,000,000 chance of negative side effects over 1 in 3 chance of polio anyday.

 

[pinkmandy]

Kade, we agree. Reactions happen, but are rare. One of the major reasons for many of the childhood diseases being defeated is the vaccination programs instituted. Now they seem too eager to put too much into kids, but there are vaccines that are critical to the health and well-being of the child. As a grand-father, my brothers and I were vassinated, and are my own kids, my grand kids, my wife, and her whole family. In four generations of kids being vaccinated, not one of us has ever had an adverse reaction.

Certainly beats pertusis and polio.

Pertussis: Rarely dangerous in a normal person over the age of 6 months. Most dangerous in infants under 6 months of age but breastfeeding will provide immunity against it. Formula fed babies are at greater risk. However, the vaccine doesn't provide complete immunity until AFTER the deadly time period of under 6 months. Nice, eh?

Polio: It is a FACT that the only cases of polio in the western hemisphere in the past few decades were actually caused by the vaccinations. It is also a FACT that when the polio vaccine was introduced the epidemic was largely already over and many who got the vax ALSO got polio! And to top it off those who got the vax and polio were 10 times more likely to have paralytic polio, usually starting right at the injection site. But who cares about facts...please carry on with believing the lies you've been fed in the name of big money, um, I mean public safety.

And Hairball, it's only this last generation where we are giving too many. What you had, what your kids had are NOTHING compared to what a little child is getting today. The world is not the same place. 36 injections by the age of 2 today compared to the 10 I had by age 5 in the 70's.

 

[pinkmandy]

Oh, and in most healthy people polio is NOT paralytic. It's a GI disease that passes for most people.

As for rareness of reactions, my son had a bad one. Is it that rare? So statistically, if it's rare, I shouldn't personally know anyone with a similar story right? I shouldn't know a woman in my son's scouts group who lost her daughter at age 2 to a "bad batch" of vaccine? Dead. At least she won't get pertussis! And I shouldn't know others who have had similar reactions as my son?

Here's a fun research project for you guys on here pretending like you actually care about vaccinations:

Go to your county morgue. Pull records on deaths of children age 2 and under who died of natural causes over the past 10 years. Look at the numbers of SIDS cases and write down the exact ages in months of the deceased. Let us know if they happen to coincide with the vaccination schedule.