Vaccinations and my daughter

[yongrel]

And isn't HPV a sexually transmitted disease? I would think that if a parent can properly raise their daughter to not be a slut then this would be something to not worry about.

By the way I appreciate all of the advice given so far from both the pro and anti vaccine people.

It's not just sluts that get HPV. No more than it is just sluts who get syphilis, herpes, crabs, chlamydia, or HIV. Sexually transmitted diseases are a major risk for any sexually active person, not just the promiscuous ones.

The reality of the matter is that the vaccinations now available have been proven to protect against HPV, which translates into protecting against cervical cancer. Deaths as a result of vaccinations are freak accidents. The 3,870 women who will die from cervical cancer in 2008 are not.

 

[ItsTime]

So you need to mandate vaccination because of 3,870 people? Again all this is moot. It is A PERSONAL CHOICE and should not be mandated ever.

It's not just sluts that get HPV. No more than it is just sluts who get syphilis, herpes, crabs, chlamydia, or HIV. Sexually transmitted diseases are a major risk for any sexually active person, not just the promiscuous ones.

The reality of the matter is that the vaccinations now available have been proven to protect against HPV, which translates into protecting against cervical cancer. Deaths as a result of vaccinations are freak accidents. The 3,870 women who will die from cervical cancer in 2008 are not.

 

[Renegades]

And isn't HPV a sexually transmitted disease? I would think that if a parent can properly raise their daughter to not be a slut then this would be something to not worry about.

Shut the hell up.

 

[constituent]

And isn't HPV a sexually transmitted disease? I would think that if a parent can properly raise their daughter to not be a slut then this would be something to not worry about.

i would expect something like this to come from a user with a name like "christ"agious

 

[yongrel]

So you need to mandate vaccination because of 3,870 people? Again all this is moot. It is A PERSONAL CHOICE and should not be mandated ever.

I agree that it shouldn't be a mandate. However, I also think that every girl should get this shot. By their parents and their own choice, every girl in America should receive this shot.

 

[Renegades]

^ Thank goodness for people like you with some sense and not powered practically by blind faith and confirmation bias.
I got all my shots, but man thankfully I did. I don't want to know what would've happened when I caught the chicken pox, or some serious flu a couple of times without the shots. Not to mention when I got poked by a few rusty pieces of metal.

 

[familydog]

For God sake I would suggest not taking medical advice from strangers on the internet, or strangers anywhere. Talk to doctors about this, get many opinions if you feel necessary. They are professionals for a reason. It's the same as us trusting Ron Paul on economics (along with everything else) he has studied it, he has worked with it, he knows it, we trust him on it. For the health of your daughter, at least consult some professionals.

 

[christagious]

Shut the hell up.

I don't really know what you mean by this, but whatever Mr. 39 Posts.

i would expect something like this to come from a user with a name like "christ"agious

Just shows some ignorance on your part. I was just saying if you can teach your daughter to be smart you wouldn't have to worry about HPV, at least teach your children the concept of protection. My daughter will not be getting the HPV vaccine, there's some dangerous stuff in that and some girls have died from it. I"ll be teaching my daughter some morals and teach her to be smart if she decides to have sex.

And my username has nothing to do with religion whatsoever. Actually I'm still quite confused as to what I believe for sure. My name is Chris and I was trying to think of something that would be cool to go with that. My friend's name is Zeb and he has a username of zebulation on some forums. I've always liked the Johnny Rotten/Justin Sane kind of things so I decided to combine my name "Chris" with the word "CONTAGIOUS". So it has nothing to do with "christ". BOOYAKASHA

 

[christagious]

It's not just sluts that get HPV. No more than it is just sluts who get syphilis, herpes, crabs, chlamydia, or HIV. Sexually transmitted diseases are a major risk for any sexually active person, not just the promiscuous ones.

The reality of the matter is that the vaccinations now available have been proven to protect against HPV, which translates into protecting against cervical cancer. Deaths as a result of vaccinations are freak accidents. The 3,870 women who will die from cervical cancer in 2008 are not.

Well, maybe I shouldn't have said "sluts" but aren't condoms or a set of morals and common sense a lot better than a vaccination that has been known to do some serious damage to girls. And if you believe in Eugenics, I'd think that this could be just another way to sterilize people.

 

[Cinderella]

http://www.truveo.com/HPV-Bomb-HPV-Virus-Does-NOT-Cause-Cancer-HPV/id/3767680203

this video is great at explaining HPV.....lots of sources cited from american medical journal and FDA.....sooooo great the FDA approves this vaccine and recommends all women 9-26 to get it.....and the FDA approves that RFID chip....maybe we should get that too!!! There is no proof Gardasil will stop cervical cancer...They haven't been studying it long enough to make that claim. thank god for the FDA making all these important decisions for us....wake up people and do ur research...i understand those who say dont take advice from people online...but seriously doctors are also misimformed about vaccines....

 

[BigRedBrent]

In my immediate family I ALSO have an example of DPT and MMR correlated fever, seizure and crying. Directly correlated, to the very day. And then autism was found later. This isn't rocket science. Anti-vaccine people have nothing to gain by sharing their views. They're not the ones making profits off of the vaccines. It is so personally painful to me to see healthy children suffer from preventable brain damage.

It tears me apart that I have an identical case with my first born son who had more vaccinations than I ever thought anyone should have have. But my daughter who I have restricted vaccinations for has developed fine with no detectable health problems.

From what I have read, my situation is identical to many MANY other situations in homes across this nation. And it angers me greatly to think that my son might have had the opportunity to have a better life if I might have known the risks. I thought I was being a good parent when they injected him with numerous vaccinations in a single day.

Of course. The time that children start to naturally show signs of "Autism" (an umbrella term for a multitude of disorders) is around the time they are getting their vaccinations. This is the time when symptoms start to show up whether they get vaccinations or not. This is why so many people (despite no science to back them up) stubbornly continue to believe there is a link when all peer reviewed research (not research done by the autism advocates themselves) has shown that there is no link.

It is sickening that you would attribute an explosion in autistic cases as just coincidence. To you it may sound likely to be the case, but statistical mathematics are strongly against your arguments. The reason vaccines have become the suspect is by process of elimination.

 

[soapmistress]

Ron Paul on immunizations: http://www.planetc1.com/cgi-bin/n/v.cgi?c=1&id=1202334997

Dr Jay Gordon http://www.drjaygordon.com/development/pediatricks/vaccoverview.asp

Dr William Sears
http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/

 

[christagious]

.i understand those who say dont take advice from people online...but seriously doctors are also misimformed about vaccines....

Exactly. Just like college professors are misguided as well, which explains why so many of them are liberal socialists and doctors are drug and vaccine pushers.

 

[ItsTime]

And my one of my favorite quotes of Ron Pauls; "Your children are not property of the government" paraphrased.

Ron Paul on immunizations: http://www.planetc1.com/cgi-bin/n/v.cgi?c=1&id=1202334997

Dr Jay Gordon http://www.drjaygordon.com/development/pediatricks/vaccoverview.asp

Dr William Sears
http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/

 

[soapmistress]

Gardisil can almost guarantee that your daughter will not get cervical cancer

No - actually Gardisil cannot almost guarantee anything.

According to Kaiser there are 30 strains of HPV that cause cervical cancer. They go on to state that "Gardasil prevents infection of four strains of HPV—two strains (16, 18) that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases and two strains (6, 11) that cause 90% of genital warts cases. It does not protect against all types of cervical cancer-causing HPV. Therefore, regular Pap tests remain a critical tool for early detection of precancerous cells. "

So what's the significance of the other 30% of women who get the shot and still get cervical cancer from HPV or other sources? A lot. That's twice the margin of pregnancies that occur when a condom is properly used. And we all know that a condom is not an "almost guarantee" that you won't get pregnant.

 

[Cinderella]

No - actually Gardisil cannot almost guarantee anything.

According to Kaiser there are 30 strains of HPV that cause cervical cancer. They go on to state that "Gardasil prevents infection of four strains of HPV—two strains (16, 18) that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases and two strains (6, 11) that cause 90% of genital warts cases. It does not protect against all types of cervical cancer-causing HPV. Therefore, regular Pap tests remain a critical tool for early detection of precancerous cells. "

So what's the significance of the other 30% of women who get the shot and still get cervical cancer from HPV or other sources? A lot. That's twice the margin of pregnancies that occur when a condom is properly used. And we all know that a condom is not an "almost guarantee" that you won't get pregnant.

thank u mistress with a brain!!! i hate that rather than teaching abstinence they come up with these vaccines...which promote teens to continue to have unprotected sex....what they need is an education...they need to stop splashing sex all over tv and cartoons and movies....they need to stop commercializing sex and making young people think sex and being sexual is what they have to be.....it makes me sick....

 

[soapmistress]

since a majority of doctors recommend vaccinations (including Dr. Paul) I'm hesitant to take the advice of a registered nurse.

I respectfully disagree with this statement. I think it is misleading.

Dr Paul's position stands in stark contrast to the agressive, inclusive vaccination schedule adhered to by the American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

[Cinderella]

katjust ........just so u know, while ur in the hospital, its a registered nurse thats knows all about u....its the registered nurse who keeps u stable gives u ur meds and performs most health procedures and perform daily assessments and are the first to notice when things go wrong....we give doctors the info about the patients....in turn the doctors ask US what we think is the right thing to do....doctors would be lost with out good educated nurses.......i see u have no idea what goes on behind the scenes at a hospital....nurses run the hospital....

 

[soapmistress]

Just throwing this out there --


IF you were to end up in a FEMA camp, you'd better hope you didn't get a chicken pox shot as a kid. They wear off you know? But then you won't have the same immunity which you'd have had from a normal case of childhood chicken pox. Instead you'd likely end up with a case of shingles as an adult instead. Not pretty! Now we know why people have chicken-pox parties for their kids.

 

[soapmistress]

I better be quiet.

If refusing or delaying shots is neglect then I guess a chicken-pox party is abuse.