'US Treasury pays 30 billion debt interest to the Fed'

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Following is an interesting feedback/article on the US Federval Reserve that Commodity Online received today from Austin Simko, Director of Public Policy, Slow Growth Initiative, a Massachusetts-based nonprofit organanization.

Dear Commodity Online Editor,

I work for the Slow Growth Initiative, a Massachusetts-based nonprofit committed to advocating for a sustainable model of economic growth. One of the projects we have been focusing on is the configuration, policies, and effects of the Federal Reserve System.

I am reaching out to members of the media who have written stories on the Federal Reserve and sharing some of the research we have assembled. Our goal is simple: to share our findings with members of the press charged with covering the Fed, both to correct popular misconceptions and to help connect the dots on the true impact of the Fed.

Your article, “Gold price suppression is public policy in America”, was wonderful. Please accept the following as a resource as you continue to cover the Fed.

To manipulate the nation’s money supply, the Fed purchases and sells U.S. securities to banks. When it wishes to expand the money supply, the Fed buys securities held by member banks, providing them with the dollar value of those securities. The result of this monetary tool is that, at any given time, the Fed holds and owns a certain amount of U.S. debt.

Consequently, the Fed receives interest payments from the Treasury on that debt. The troubling element of this arrangement is that the money used by the Fed to purchase the U.S. debt is created out of thin air. This means that the U.S. Treasury - funded, of course, by U.S. taxpayers - is making interest payments to an entity that purchased debt through the arbitrary, risk-free, and electronic creation of money.

This arrangement is incredibly costly to U.S. taxpayers.

Firstly, the U.S. Treasury has paid approximately 30 billions in debt interest to the Fed in each of the last three years. But this is only the beginning. To fully understand the cost of the Fed to U.S. taxpayers, one must consider the concept of opportunity cost: What does it cost us to have the Fed create the funds to purchase debt from the Treasury, instead of a central bank creating the funds?

In our modern central banking system, the Fed expands the money supply by expanding the bank accounts of member banks by the click of a mouse. This power is arbitrary and can therefore be exercised by any entity, including the Federal government. If the Federal Government, rather than the Fed, were to exercise the authority to create money, the fiscal and monetary policy-making of this country would be provided a higher level of coherence.

Most importantly, if the Federal government used its latent power to create money, a byproduct of increasing the monetary supply by a certain amount of dollars would be a lowering of the national debt by the same amount of dollars. (The reasoning is simple: The government could expand the money supply by purchasing and then retiring securities. This is different than the current practice which allows the Fed to buy and preserve securities/U.S. debt.)

Had this alternative been the status quo system, the approximately 600 billion dollars of the U.S. debt currently held by the Fed would remain in the money supply but not count towards the nation’s debt. Moreover, if a central bank had pumped trillions of dollars into the banking system over the past year instead of the Fed, the result would be identical except for the salient fact that the nation’s debt would be trillions of dollars lower than it is today.

And finally, if the United States has a central bank capable of expanding the money supply through government spending, and not through the purchasing of bank-held U.S. Securities, a host of other positive benefits could be produced. The United States is suffering from a series of under-funded initiatives, neglected deficiencies, and cash-strapped municipalities.

The billions of dollars saved through not needing to make interest payments would begin to alleviate these afflictions. And the trillions of dollars created by a true central bank in the long-term would transform the nation and place it on a previously unimaginable path of prosperity. Investments in education, infrastructure, and alternative energies could all be funded through a retooled monetary policy-making apparatus. Aside from this glaring fiscal opportunity cost, the Fed approaches the nation’s monetary policy with a profit-centered, private perspective.

As an example, in 2008 the CEO of JP Morgan served as a board member of the Federal Reserve branch of New York as he negotiated on behalf of JP Morgan for a $29 billion bridge loan to allow his company to acquire Bear Sterns. Another example of private-interest primacy within the Fed is the Directo a Mexico program. Under this new program, illegal Mexican immigrants in the United States are permitted to send remittances back to Mexico via the Federal Reserve’s automated clearinghouse.

The Fed permits illegal residents to use the banking system by requiring that they produce only a Matricula Consular, an illegitimate form of identification due to rampant counterfeiting and extremely low issuance standards. This clumsy program flouts and undermines the immigration laws of this country. It also provides a valuable money-transferring tool to drug and human traffickers within this country, making law enforcement all but impossible.

This program reveals the Fed’s sympathy for profit-making and its accompanying disregard for the public good. Under the current system, expansions to the money supply provide banks with increased capital to loan out and profit from. By making expansionary monetary policy profitable for private banks, this system incentivizes unwise expansions of the money supply.

The result is needless inflation and increased national debt. Ultimately, the transformation of the Federal Reserve and incorporation of it into the Executive Branch is a prudent, measured, practical, and essential step in putting this nation on the path to sustainable prosperity.

Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency served in his capacity for 16 years. He is an unimpeachable expert. “I have never yet had anyone who could, through the use of logic and reason, justify the Federal Government borrowing the use of its own money…I believe the time will come when people will demand that this be changed.

I believe the time will come in this country when they will actually blame you and me and everyone else connected with the Congress for sitting idly by and permitting such an idiotic system to continue.

http://www.commodityonline.com/news/US-Treasury-pays-30-billion-debt-interest-to-the-Fed-23905-3-1.html
 
As much as I want the FED gone this argument is inappropriate. FED is not for profit business and it returns all profit to Treasury. Off course FED is spending some money on adminstration, but on a global scale of things this is irrelevant.

FED function creates a lot of evil consequences, but interest expense is not one of them.
 
As much as I want the FED gone this argument is inappropriate. FED is not for profit business and it returns all profit to Treasury. Off course FED is spending some money on adminstration, but on a global scale of things this is irrelevant.

FED function creates a lot of evil consequences, but interest expense is not one of them.

I do not believe this is correct. As I understand it, regional federal reserve member banks are guaranteed a 6% return on their investment in that region.

From the Fed themselves,

"Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in the Reserve Bank in their region, but they do not exercise control over the Reserve Bank or the Federal Reserve System. Holding stock in a regional Reserve Bank does not carry with it the kind of control and financial interest that holding publicly traded stock affords, and the stock may not be sold or traded. Member banks do, however, receive a fixed 6 percent dividend annually on their stock and elect six of the nine members of the Reserve Bank's board of directors."
 
Following is an interesting feedback/article on the US Federval Reserve that Commodity Online received today from Austin Simko, Director of Public Policy, Slow Growth Initiative, a Massachusetts-based nonprofit organanization.
This article is nonsense as it is rife with mistakes. Folks not knowing any better will consume and instill this information and be the dumber for it.

Leaving aside the many other mistakes in the article, not to mention the horrible suggestion of a solution, I will address the principal point of the article regarding interest payment by the Treasury to the Fed.

The Treasury does pay interest to the Fed on the treasury securities it holds in its portfolio. And yes, the Federal Reserve member banks do receive a 6% dividend yield on their stock holdings (mentioned in this thread). However, this was less than $1.2 billion in aggregate for 2008. What the article does not mention is that the Federal Reserve repays its profits to the Treasury after deducting operating expenses (nearly $4 billion), of which the dividends are part. The Fed repaid nearly $32 billion in 2008 and nearly $35 billion in 2008 (interest rates were higher, although the average maturity was shorter) to the Treasury.

Brian
 
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As much as I want the FED gone this argument is inappropriate. FED is not for profit business and it returns all profit to Treasury. Off course FED is spending some money on adminstration, but on a global scale of things this is irrelevant.

FED function creates a lot of evil consequences, but interest expense is not one of them.
You are spot on echebota.

Brian
 
This article is nonsense as it is rife with mistakes. Folks not knowing any better will consume and instill this information and be the dumber for it.

Leaving aside the many other mistakes in the article, not to mention the horrible suggestion of a solution, I will address the principal point of the article regarding interest payment by the Treasury to the Fed.

The Treasury does pay interest to the Fed on the treasury securities it holds in its portfolio. And yes, the Federal Reserve member banks do receive a 6% dividend yield on their stock holdings (mentioned in this thread). However, this was less than $1.2 billion in aggregate for 2008. What the article does not mention is that the Federal Reserve repays its profits to the Treasury after deducting operating expenses (nearly $4 billion), of which the dividends are part. The Fed repaid nearly $32 billion in 2008 and nearly $35 billion in 2008 (interest rates were higher, although the average maturity was shorter) to the Treasury.

Brian

repaid how? with money created out of thin air? when they are repaying with gold, let me know.
 
As much as I want the FED gone this argument is inappropriate. FED is not for profit business and it returns all profit to Treasury. Off course FED is spending some money on adminstration, but on a global scale of things this is irrelevant.

FED function creates a lot of evil consequences, but interest expense is not one of them.

We really don't know what they do because if a govt security is held by a member bank then there is interest expense.

But even if we gave them the benefit of the doubt... dont forget that the Fed pays its head janitor $164,000 a year in salary.. it has a $300 million art collection with a full time curator.. it has a fleet of 47 learjets. etc.. and taxpayers are 100% paying for all that nonsense
 
As much as I want the FED gone this argument is inappropriate. FED is not for profit business and it returns all profit to Treasury. Off course FED is spending some money on adminstration, but on a global scale of things this is irrelevant.

FED function creates a lot of evil consequences, but interest expense is not one of them.


not entirely true.....

the FED retains funds for "operating expenses" (wouldn't we all like to know what they are, line by line and how much they total)
 
repaid how? with money created out of thin air? when they are repaying with gold, let me know.

They also generate income when member banks borrow money from the Fed and they are the #1 processor of financial transactions such as clearing checks for a fee.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm
How is the Federal Reserve funded?
The Federal Reserve's income is derived primarily from the interest on U.S. government securities that it has acquired through open market operations. Other sources of income are the interest on foreign currency investments held by the System; fees received for services provided to depository institutions, such as check clearing, funds transfers, and automated clearinghouse operations; and interest on loans to depository institutions (the rate on which is the so-called discount rate). After paying its expenses, the Federal Reserve turns the rest of its earnings over to the U.S. Treasury.
 
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