US Marine Throwing a Puppy. Video

I couldn't sleep last night thinking of the puppy but this morning my son who is a Iraq veteran told me they are told to shoot dogs there as they carry rabbis

Do they shoot the rabbis also?
 
I couldn't sleep last night thinking of the puppy but this morning my son who is a Iraq veteran told me they are told to shoot dogs there as they carry rabbis


Dogs are not kept as pets by Iraqis. Dogs are considered filthy animals that should not share a house with people. Because of this most dogs in Iraq just roam around homeless and are generally considered varmints.
 
The video has been removed for TOS violation. I guess google got some not-so-friendly phone calls from the DOD
 
Any of you people actually been to a combat zone?

*crickets

Completely irrelavent.

Are you saying that because they are in a war zone, it's ok to kill and torture animals and children?

How about when they rape teenage girls? I guess it's ok too because they have seen bad stuff.


Look, the bottom line is that when you see people kill each other for 15 months, everything else has less value. I was in Kosovo and about 3 months into it, the people stopped being people and started becoming objects... and Iraq is WAY worse. Its just a natural progression from seeing horrible things. After you see a few dozen people killed for no reason, dogs and cats really dont matter. Thats not to say that I went around killing them, we actually had 3 dogs that lived in our camp... and we loved them... but why would you care about animals in some shithole country after you watch the people there kill each other and your friends for years? Most of these guys have been deployed 3 times or more. A lot of them are desensitized to crap like this because when you have a pretty good chance of dying tomorrow, it really stops mattering. Most of you will never go through that, and you should be glad.

There

is

no

excuse.
 
Completely irrelavent.

Are you saying that because they are in a war zone, it's ok to kill and torture animals and children?

How about when they rape teenage girls? I guess it's ok too because they have seen bad stuff.




There

is

no

excuse.

I don't want to speak for Jason43. But what I will say is that no, it is absolutely not ok to kill/torture animals and children. But I will also ask you to relax your visceral response to this for a moment and look at it in the larger context.

When you put humans in certain situations, certain human behavior is likely to emerge. This is why certain economic/political circumstances create the human behavior of suicide terrorism for example while other circumstances create law abiding and property respecting human behavior.

I guess my point is that your beef should be more with the policy that almost guarantees we will see this sort of human behavior (Abu Graib, puppy tossing, sheep shooting, etc.) from our soldiers. Yes the soldiers bear the wait of guilt for these atrocities, but they also deserve our effort to try to understand how combat changes a person and allows people to become capable of laughing at immoral acts such as these.

And for the record I've never served personally.
 
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I don't want to speak for Jason43. But what I will say is that no, it is absolutely not ok to kill/torture animals and children. But I will also ask you to relax your visceral response to this for a moment and look at it in the larger context.

When you put humans in certain situations, certain human behavior is likely to emerge. This is why certain economic/political circumstances create the human behavior of suicide terrorism for example while other circumstances create law abiding and property respecting human behavior.

I guess my point is that your beef should be more with the policy that almost guarantees we will see this sort of human behavior (Abu Graib, puppy tossing, sheep shooting, etc.) from our soldiers. Yes the soldiers bear the wait of guilt for these atrocities, but they also deserve our effort to try to understand how combat changes a person and allows people to become capable of laughing at immoral acts such as these.

And for the record I've never served personally.


My point is that its a war. And in any war, this stuff happens, and killing a puppy (if it even died) is the least of overall concerns. How about all the people that have died over there? My best friend got killed in Iraq one year ago today. Sorry if I could care less about some stray dog that probably would have starved to death anyway. Yeah, killing dogs sucks and I don't condone it, but there are a lot bigger problems with the mess we are in than some PETA people being up in arms about some stupid dog.
 
The point is, from what I've seen reading only the recent threads, not that the puppy is the worst thing ever to happen in Iraq, but that a United States Marine threw a puppy for the sheer joy of it. That's just not something I would expect (Nor like to see) one of "America's heroes" doing.

What I got out of the video is that Iraq made our guys so desensitized to violence that the act of throwing a puppy, something the average person wouldn't do, was just something to do for fun when on patrol.
 
...What I got out of the video is that Iraq made our guys so desensitized to violence that the act of throwing a puppy, something the average person wouldn't do, was just something to do for fun when on patrol.

Bingo. Sad isn't it?
 
Can't play videos.

US Soldiers blow up dog, find it funny
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822

I couldn't play it because my system has problems with You Tube type sites.

I got this message:

To view this video you need at least version 8 of your flash player. Please upgrade your flash player HERE
After your player has been upgraded, restart your browser and revisit the current page.

I get the same kind of message from You Tube too.

I can't fix the problem no matter what I do.
I've tried downloading the Flash player and reinstalling it.
I've checked my Javascript and it is enabled.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Will you please let the poor puppy lie in peace. It was bad but I felt bad that they gave out his email, address and phone number . The poor poor wife!!!!!!
 
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