US fighter planes kill 120+ in Yemen (ALLEGEDLY)

[Naraku]

The Saudis have been at the root of much trouble in the area. I vote we support the rebels.

How about we support neither? Regardless of what you think of the Saudis they do have the right to defend their country.

So you are denying the claims in the OP that the US Air Force participated in this attack? If so, based on what?

How about the fact the only ones claiming an attack by the U.S. are the anti-American rebels and the source citing them is Iranian state-owned media? It might be true, though I am not very well going to take the word of Yemeni rebels.

 

[RSLudlum]

"We do not have a military role in this conflict," he said.

Maybe not directly, as in pulling the trigger, but they definitely have 'support'.

http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/saudi_arabia.htm

Saudi Arabia is America’s top customer. Since 1990, the U.S. government, through the Pentagon’s arms export program, has arranged for the delivery of more than $39.6 billion in foreign military sales to Saudi Arabia, and an additional $394 million worth of arms were delivered to the Saudi regime through the State Department’s direct commercial sales program during that same period. (Foreign Military and Construction Sales and Direct Commercial Sales are recorded and published by the Dept. of Defense in Foreign Military Sales, Foreign Military Construction Sales and Military Assistance Facts; the most current online edition includes information through FY 1999.)

Oil rich Saudi Arabia is a cash-paying customer. It receives no U.S. military assistance to finance these purchases, although it does demand that about 35 percent of all major contracts be "offset"-that is, economic benefits equaling 35 percent of the arms contract value must be steered back to the Saudi economy. (Check out the Offsets Monitoring Project for more information on this phenomenon.)

The United States has very close and long-running military ties to the Saudi regime dating back to 1945. Following the 1990-91 war against Iraq, more than 5,000 U.S. troops and thousands of U.S. military contractors have been continuously based in Saudi Arabia. However, several concerns have been raised about this close military cooperation and the related sales of sophisticated arms.

 

[Elwar]

You are what could be described as an ignoramus. You are one of the primary reasons why Ron Paul cannot be taken seriously. Do you really instantly believe anything you read that claims the US has done this or that, or do you pretend to be so extraordinarily blind?

The Saudi Air Force is responsible for this attack. Although I'm sure you and Epic and all the other ignorami here will continue to blindly believe things without even checking, and form opinions devoid of facts, and continue to discredit the cause of liberty. If, however, you choose to learn from this incident and decide that you should probably check your facts before making such claims, perhaps you might start a positive trend.

I should check my facts before making the claim that the US military should not attack anyone who has not attacked us nor threatened to attack us?

Get off of your horse.

 

[pcosmar]

How about the fact the only ones claiming an attack by the U.S. are the anti-American rebels .

Sorry , but they are Anti-Yemen rebels.

The Saudis have been attacking them since at least 2004, with US made planes. There are also US advisers on the ground., and Yemen troops have come to the US for training.

That means the US is involved.
it may not be our Air Force ( maybe it was) but we are involved none the less.

 

[pcosmar]

WASHINGTON, Dec. 16 (UPI) -- Washington denied its military forces were involved in the Yemeni conflict with al-Houthi rebel fighters in the north of the country.
Al-Jazeera and other regional news outlets reported this week that U.S. military jets launched air raids on al-Houthi outposts near the border with Saudi Arabia.
Al-Houthi statements said Tuesday marked the third day of U.S. military strikes in the region, blaming American forces for striking two mosques in their air raids. Additional statements from al-Houthi groups point to U.S. involvement in the deaths of more than 120 people in recent attacks.
P.J. Crowley, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department, rejected the allegations outright.
"We do not have a military role in this conflict," he said.
Yemen launched a scorched-earth campaign against the rebel group in August. U.S. ally Saudi Arabia entered the fight recently, launching its own military and aerial strikes on border security concerns.
Iran, meanwhile, is blamed for supporting the Shiite al-Houthi group, something Tehran denies.
U.S. forces have acted in a training capacity for the Yemeni military. Six Yemeni military officials trained in South Carolina in November with the U.S. Marine Corps.

Didn't Vietnam involvement start with military training and advisers?

 

[Naraku]

Sorry , but they are Anti-Yemen rebels.

They are anti-American as well. Hence, what they say must be taken with a grain of salt.

The Saudis have been attacking them since at least 2004, with US made planes. There are also US advisers on the ground., and Yemen troops have come to the US for training.

That means the US is involved.
it may not be our Air Force ( maybe it was) but we are involved none the less.

Of course the U.S. is involved, just maybe not directly.

 

[TinCanToNA]

They are anti-American as well. Hence, what they say must be taken with a grain of salt.



Of course the U.S. is involved, just maybe not directly.

Now we're making progress. Ascertaining exactly what is going on is a good step towards forming strong opinions, and "becoming less involved" is a message that should be able to stand on its own, without lying or playing up the role with easily-refuted overstatements.

The truth will set us free, and we must be careful if we are to build credibility.

 

[Bruno]

They are anti-American as well. Hence, what they say must be taken with a grain of salt.



Of course the U.S. is involved, just maybe not directly.

Now, why would they have any reason to be anti-American (foreign policy)??

 

[Naraku]

Now, why would they have any reason to be anti-American (foreign policy)??

It doesn't really matter what their reason is it does not automatically legitimize their claims.

 

[Aratus]

there was a tyme when there was a wall in berlin... and a curtain most & very "iron"

haven't the Saudis been buying armaments & weaponery from us most happily for years?
i think the more important question is hovering over the very nationality & citizenship of
the pilots in the jets vis a vis WHOSE command structure they are part of & respond to...

 

[TinCanToNA]

It has just been confirmed that President Obama ordered an attack in Sanaa. While the dates are confusing (the report in the OP was from Wednesday, while the ABC report says the President's ordered strike was early Thursday), it is likely the same attack. If not, then this means it was a new attack, but definitely ordered by the President.

In either case, then I would like to apologize for my earlier comments. Credibility is extraordinarily hard to come by.