Urgent: your help is needed to keep an innocent mother out of jail

[acesfull]

Ms.Allen needs to stay in PA and jump bail.. Have the case moved to federal court, have her attorney argue that the Constitution tramps all the NJ statutes against the 2a. Any law that is unconstitutional is NULL AND VOID.
Or simply cry for jury nullification... Desperate times call for desperate measures...

New Jersey legislators like to trample on the 2A... Now a young Mothers life is in jeopardy, may be they will have the stones to do the right thing..

Regards

Acesfull

 

[kahless]

And now that she has turned down the prosecutor's "generous" plea-deal offer of three and a half years in prison, this young lady will likely be sentenced to TEN YEARS IN THE STATE PENITENTIARY if she is convicted. All for owning a legal, licensed gun in a state next door.

This is horribly and insanely unfair.

This is ammunition for every candidate that will be running against Christie in 2016. That SOB should have stopped this and he has not.

Christie should be called out on this for every public appearance. Why not even a grassroots effort to contact as many media outlets as possible about how anti-gun Christie is essentially crucifying a hard working single African American woman for trying to protect her family.

 

[KCIndy]

The comments are encouraging.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-08-07/news/52519315_1_gun-laws-gun-violence-heeding-god

Even among the complacent sheep who love to spout "well, the law is the law...." this case seems to have touched a nerve. Pushing for YEARS in prison for an honest, hard working, professional, young single woman with kids - who didn't even know she was breaking a law - is apparently a bridge too far.

I don't know whether to be happy that there's apparently still a microscopic shred of common sense among the populace, or deeply discouraged that it took such an insane and egregious abuse of authority to get a minor bleat out of the sheep.

 

[KCIndy]

This is ammunition for every candidate that will be running against Christie in 2016. That SOB should have stopped this and he has not.

Christie should be called out on this for every public appearance. Why not even a grassroots effort to contact as many media outlets as possible about how anti-gun Christie is essentially crucifying a hard working single African American woman for trying to protect her family.

In every article I've read about this case (and I've read a lot of them) the comments seem to be running 90% + in favor of Ms. Allen. I've even seen a lot of comments that begin with, "I'm in favor of gun control, but...."

The first major politician (Hello, Governor Christie!?!? Are you listening??) who moves in and pushes the prosecutor to drop the case is going to be heralded as a hero, even if he's really just a typical opinion poll following, vote-craving ass kisser. Christie in particular is nuts for not jumping on this, assuming he really does have White House aspirations in 2016. He could use this to try to convince the less educated and naive voter block that he's really a Second Amendment supporter.

And yeah, I would give good money to see Christie bombarded with questions about this case every time he puts in a public appearance. The prosecutor in this case was actually appointed by Chris Christie in the first place. Seems like that would give the gov a certain amount of pull.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/29/christie-wont-intervene-yet-in-philly-mother-gun-charge-case/

Christie won't intervene yet in Philly mother's gun charge case
Published August 29, 2014

SEA BRIGHT, N.J. – Gov. Chris Christie says he's going to let the judicial process play itself out before he'll consider intervening in the case of a Pennsylvania woman who faces jail time for carrying a concealed weapon in New Jersey.

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Extremely political answer. In the heat of the moment he implies that he will pardon her if a jury finds her guilty and she is sentenced to prison. Along comes the verdict and she is financially ruined, and he hopes people have forgotten so he can ignore it. Have I ever said how much I hate this man?

 

[limequat]

Don't look for any help from Christie. The prosecutor, Jim McClain, was APPOINTED BY CHRISTIE.

This issue is not "only" a monumental abuse of state power, it's also a proxy fight for 2016. It's important for all factions of liberty lovers and gun rights activists to stand up for Ms. Allen. It needs to be clear that 1) Christie is a power drunk gun grabbing, fascist and 2) the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Rand Paul 2016
For individual rights, 2nd amendment rights, and the rule of law.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Rand Paul 2016
For individual rights, 2nd amendment rights, and the rule of law.

Well, see, that's the problem.

The law says she MUST go to jail.

But in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I am Shaneen Allen




but only on the weekends and after had several beers, and various other drugs, and only if I feel like being a naughty girl....

 

[kahless]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/29/christie-wont-intervene-yet-in-philly-mother-gun-charge-case/



Extremely political answer. In the heat of the moment he implies that he will pardon her if a jury finds her guilty and she is sentenced to prison. Along comes the verdict and she is financially ruined, and he hopes people have forgotten so he can ignore it. Have I ever said how much I hate this man?

What the hell is he and is campaign thinking. This issue and his response could effectively end any chance he has for 2016. I suppose if they are this incompetent he is not really a threat anyway.

Although the subject matter is quite different this is Christie's Willie Horton and he Dukakis.

 

[KCIndy]

Or simply cry for jury nullification... Desperate times call for desperate measures...

....in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.

As mentioned earlier, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society together with the Fully Informed Jury Association is asking for volunteers to pass out pamphlets regarding jury rights and responsibilities:

http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159

I need the help of all our Atlantic County members and supporters and anyone willing to help distribute pamphlets in the area of the Atlantic County Criminal Court Complex. The NJ2AS will be holding a series of meetings (3 or 4) about Juror Rights within Atlantic County. You will only need to attend one of these meetings. These meetings will most likely take no more than 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. We will be working with the FULLY INFORMED JURY ASSOCIATION (FIJA.org), a 501(c)3 educational organization dedicated to Jury Rights.

In many cases involving Second Amendment protected rights, the jurors are misinformed about their right to deliberate using their reason and conscience. It is time that we did our job to help inform jurors of their rights and responsibilities.

FIJA has prepared informative pamphlets that answer questions that jurors may have about their rights under the law, including, but not limited to, jury nullification (for more information go to www.fija.org. They have trained multitudes of civic minded people in how to properly disseminate these materials without running afoul of the law. We will work with them to train interested individuals to distribute these pamphlets in the area of the Atlantic County Criminal Court Complex.

If you are interested in performing both a public service and helping our Society. Please register for this project. Dates and places for the training are still to be determined. I hope to resolve this ASAP. If you know of a venue we can use, please contact me at [email protected].

Thank you

Frank Jack Fiamingo
President - NJ2AS

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If anyone is close to the Atlantic City area and is interested in participating in this effort, let me know. I will contribute some money for gas.

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[mad cow]

This is ~37minute interview with Shaneen.Good stuff.

 

[Anti Federalist]

As mentioned earlier, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society together with the Fully Informed Jury Association is asking for volunteers to pass out pamphlets regarding jury rights and responsibilities:

http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159

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If anyone is close to the Atlantic City area and is interested in participating in this effort, let me know. I will contribute some money for gas.

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Anybody in the area that wishes to help out, I will do the same, chip in to help you cover gas and expenses.

 

[limequat]

Well, see, that's the problem.

The law says she MUST go to jail.

But in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.

The fact that Shaneen Allen was arrested by men with guns for having a gun means that there is no rule of law.
I agree with you though. Stupid law. Moronic prosecutor. Dumbass judge.

Will there be riots in Atlantic City if the jury convicts?

Ask this guy:

Jim McClain
609-909-7800
1201 Bacharach Blvd
Atlantic City, NJ 08401

Then kick him in the nuts

 

[limequat]

whitehouse petition for clemency

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/justice-shaneen-allen/HbmhDWDk

 

[KCIndy]

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[Christian Liberty]

Probably pointless, but I decided to make two comments. Hopefully some people will use some basic logic and come to the same conclusions I did (not likely.)

My first comment:

The only law that should matter here is the 2nd amendment. Or better yet, the non-aggression principle. Since the woman did not harm anyone, every single person who was involved in the enforcement of "the law" is a scumbag, whether it be the cops who arrested her, the prosecutor who is trying to lock her up, or any jury member who votes "guilty" (Ignorance of the HIGHER moral law is no excuse, and carrying a gun is not a sin, let alone an aggressive act) or the judge, all the way up to Chris Christie.
Its only a sick society that would even debate something like this. Moral people do not need government edicts to tell them what is right and wrong. Adults can think for themselves. Sadly, we are in a nation of sheep.

My second comment:

Let's go one step further. Why should she be punished at all? Constitutionally, she didn't violate the law. More importantly, "the law" shouldn't be our standard for what is moral and immoral.

I agree with "the punishment should fit the crime." And since nobody was harmed by her actions (As you correctly point out) nobody has a right to harm her for her actions.
Its disappointing that you think its "reasonable" to even support a fine. Why? It would be far more sensible to fine the cops who arrested her, while their actions were "legal", they actually did harm someone (this woman.) What's more wrong, to harm someone legally, or to violate the law but cause no harm?

I think we should all be leaving these types of comments. Teach people that its completely reasonable and normal not to worship "the law", and that voluntarism is actually a perfectly sane position to hold.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I'm so tempted to link Larken Rose's "when should you shoot a cop" as well. That would REALLY drive the statists mad. But then, I've already made three comments, s maybe someone else should do it (different name, so it doesn't look like its just me)

 

[limequat]

I think the only legal action that the people of NJ could take at this point, would be to initiate a recall of Gov. Chris Christie. He is the only person in this entire debacle that was elected! Cops are hired and the prosecutor was appointed by Christie.

 

[tod evans]

I think the only legal action that the people of NJ could take at this point, would be to initiate a recall of Gov. Chris Christie. He is the only person in this entire debacle that was elected! Cops are hired and the prosecutor was appointed by Christie.

"Recall" the whole lot of 'em...

Get a rope!

 

[osan]

"Recall" the whole lot of 'em...

Get a rope!

And iron bars.