URGENT - PLEASE SHARE - LAWSUIT BEING FILED THAT ALL DELEGATES MUST BE UNBOUND

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Just saw this posted on Facebook.... (if it's already been posted, please merge or delete):

URGENT: Many of us listened to the incredibly thorough conference call last night and learned about the lawsuit that is being filed on MONDAY. For those who missed the call, I urge you to learn about what is happening right now.


Lawyers are working for our cause - without pay - to get a federal COURT ORDER to ORDER the RNC to allow delegates to vote freely. It is illegal to bind delegates. This IS a fact.

They are filing in the 9th circuit court on Monday, it is anticipated that the judge will rule that all delegates MUST be unbound according to federal law. This has nothing to do with Rule 38 or any hypothetical situation. It is a matter of FEDERAL LAW and the RNC is VERY MUCH subject to it. The lawyers on the call assured us that THIS COURT ORDER WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE CONVENTION.

Anyone and EVERYONE who had an experience or witnessed election fraud or intimidation of ANY kind - AND - ALL delegates - even those that are currently considered BOUND - need to sign on as a plaintiff by submitting their account to the secure website OR you can just submit your testimony and any evidence you have and NOT be named as a plaintiff. The legal team will prepare your legal affidavit based on the testimony that you have entered - along with any evidence you may have.

If you are worried about the implications of being named in the suit – i.e. becoming a target and systematically removed from delegation - ask someone in the group to explain to you how you are MORE protected if you are involved in the suit then if you weren’t. There is a long and lengthy legal explanation for how that works.

It is also possible that the judge will order a reversal of some of the damage already done, time permitting, if there is enough compelling testimony and evidence to the events.

As I understand it, EVERY delegate who has attended these conventions has suffered ‘damage’ under the law, again, long and lengthy explanation better answered by someone in the group.

So, here is what you need to do:

1. Go to this site NOW and enter your testimony and/or evidence to the appropriate state in which the issue took place, along with your contact information, so the attorneys can contact you if the need arises!! IT IS FREE TO JOIN THIS SITE.* Please utilize and add to the "RESOURCES Vote Fraud - What You Can Do!" File - Enter your testimony or witness account under your state, you will need to ‘join’ the site to do this. Here, all the testimony is being reviewed by a legal team and followed up on – they will put your testimony into affidavit form for legal purposes.
http://electionfraudremedy.com/

2. Join the facebook group and ask questions if you have them:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/188334154612254/members/


3. All others that have not been involved directly – SPREAD THE WORD, time is short!!

This is the first of MANY lawsuits that will be filed as a results of these violations at every level of this election cycle. BUT THIS is the MOST critical as it will directly affect the Convention in August.

One of the greatest things any of us can do for this movement RIGHT NOW is to support the class action lawsuit currently being filed – the other is to urge ALL delegates at upcoming conventions to ATTEND and GET ELECTED.

We have been duped for far too long and the truth is now coming out.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/miche...all-delegates-must-be-unbound/447114038632921
 
The ultimate irony, Ron Paul is elected because of a feral judge ruling....................

works for me.
 
Do email Doug Wead and check these people out before giving out info if you are a delegate going to national. I actually think this is on the up and up, but Romney hired actual pollsters to 'poll' our delegates before state conventions to find out whom they supported, and I just think it is always worthwhile checking things out.
 
Do email Doug Wead and check these people out before giving out info if you are a delegate going to national. I actually think this is on the up and up, but Romney hired actual pollsters to 'poll' our delegates before state conventions to find out whom they supported, and I just think it is always worthwhile checking things out.
Good advice. Anyone could start a Facebook page.
 
Do email Doug Wead and check these people out before giving out info if you are a delegate going to national. I actually think this is on the up and up, but Romney hired actual pollsters to 'poll' our delegates before state conventions to find out whom they supported, and I just think it is always worthwhile checking things out.

I had the same thought ... this could be a brilliant way for Romney to find out who are all of our delegates. My first question is, who are these lawyers that are working for free, and why? There should probably be some consideration ($) from us, even a small amount, no?

It's exciting, but also scares me.

Edit - Here's my other immediate thought - why would all delegates need to sign on. The ruling would cover everyone, not just those that signed on to the lawsuit.
 
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Think some lawsuits should be filed - but it should go this way: The members that have been having direct problems in each of the States X should get their own lawyers - that is how we know they are legit.

Those lawsuits might be combined into some aimed at national GOP and federal - but we know they are legit because they started from the bottom up.

These guys don't seem to have good ratings over at Daily Paul - can read there - but would excercise some caution.
 
This doesn't make much sense to require delegates to opt-in. Most class actions, which I am presuming this is, are opt-out. That would be that paper you get in the mail that says you have to act to preserve your right to sue. That being said, they'd have to prove that the party was a vote rather than the action of a private association. It's not a perfect sale. I'd keep my eye out for the brief in this one.

They are also proceeding under 42 USC 1983 which requires a violation of clearly established law. Which law in the 9th circuit are they planning on?

I'm not sure if a possible violation would pass under that statute. An injunction to make someone follow the law may work if the court agrees with us on what the law is and that damage is significant and immediate. It's a tall hurdle here.

This could wind up doing more damage than good and making us look like poor losers.
 
This doesn't make much sense to require delegates to opt-in. Most class actions, which I am presuming this is, are opt-out. That would be that paper you get in the mail that says you have to act to preserve your right to sue. That being said, they'd have to prove that the party was a vote rather than the action of a private association. It's not a perfect sale. I'd keep my eye out for the brief in this one.

They are also proceeding under 42 USC 1983 which requires a violation of clearly established law. Which law in the 9th circuit are they planning on?

I'm not sure if a possible violation would pass under that statute. An injunction to make someone follow the law may work if the court agrees with us on what the law is and that damage is significant and immediate. It's a tall hurdle here.

This could wind up doing more damage than good and making us look like poor losers.

I don't think it is 'us' per se. But you should give your opinion to Doug wead.
 
WOW! LAWSUIT TO UNBIND ALL DELEGATES!!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-liberty-martin/urgent-please-share-lawsuit-being-filed-that-all-delegates-must-be-unbound/447114038632921

Please note you do NOT need to have a Facebook account or be logged in to read this page. Here's what it says though:

URGENT - PLEASE SHARE - LAWSUIT BEING FILED THAT ALL DELEGATES MUST BE UNBOUND
by Michelle Liberty Martin on Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 5:42am ·

URGENT: Many of us listened to the incredibly thorough conference call last night and learned about the lawsuit that is being filed on MONDAY. For those who missed the call, I urge you to learn about what is happening right now.

Lawyers are working for our cause - without pay - to get a federal COURT ORDER to ORDER the RNC to allow delegates to vote freely. It is illegal to bind delegates. This IS a fact.

They are filing in the 9th circuit court on Monday, it is anticipated that the judge will rule that all delegates MUST be unbound according to federal law. This has nothing to do with Rule 38 or any hypothetical situation. It is a matter of FEDERAL LAW and the RNC is VERY MUCH subject to it. The lawyers on the call assured us that THIS COURT ORDER WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE CONVENTION.

Anyone and EVERYONE who had an experience or witnessed election fraud or intimidation of ANY kind - AND - ALL delegates - even those that are currently considered BOUND - need to sign on as a plaintiff by submitting their account to the secure website OR you can just submit your testimony and any evidence you have and NOT be named as a plaintiff. The legal team will prepare your legal affidavit based on the testimony that you have entered - along with any evidence you may have.

If you are worried about the implications of being named in the suit – i.e. becoming a target and systematically removed from delegation - ask someone in the group to explain to you how you are MORE protected if you are involved in the suit then if you weren’t. There is a long and lengthy legal explanation for how that works.

It is also possible that the judge will order a reversal of some of the damage already done, time permitting, if there is enough compelling testimony and evidence to the events.

As I understand it, EVERY delegate who has attended these conventions has suffered ‘damage’ under the law, again, long and lengthy explanation better answered by someone in the group.

So, here is what you need to do:

1. Go to this site NOW and enter your testimony and/or evidence to the appropriate state in which the issue took place, along with your contact information, so the attorneys can contact you if the need arises!! IT IS FREE TO JOIN THIS SITE.* Please utilize and add to the "RESOURCES Vote Fraud - What You Can Do!" File - Enter your testimony or witness account under your state, you will need to ‘join’ the site to do this. Here, all the testimony is being reviewed by a legal team and followed up on – they will put your testimony into affidavit form for legal purposes.

http://electionfraudremedy.com/


2. Join the facebook group and ask questions if you have them:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/188334154612254/members/


3. All others that have not been involved directly – SPREAD THE WORD, time is short!!

This is the first of MANY lawsuits that will be filed as a results of these violations at every level of this election cycle. BUT THIS is the MOST critical as it will directly affect the Convention in August.

One of the greatest things any of us can do for this movement RIGHT NOW is to support the class action lawsuit currently being filed – the other is to urge ALL delegates at upcoming conventions to ATTEND and GET ELECTED.

We have been duped for far too long and the truth is now coming out.
 
I've already emailed Doug what I feel our best legal shot is. That being said, I would want to look at the complaint before emailing Doug. An analysis based on the text I have here would be incomplete at best. I also am licensed to practice in the 9th circuit (well not that court but a state in the 9th circuit) so I have to be really careful about how I come across regarding this. Nothing I write on this forum is legal advice (obligatory disclaimer).

Also, can someone merge this with the other lawsuit thread?
 
Whoops! Sorry, did not see the other thread on this. I looked, and somehow missed it... I am deleting now.
 
This is interesting but MUST proceed with caution. This whole thing needs to reliably check out before anyone signs anything or adds their name to any database. Has anything more about this been disseminated? Facebook posts and random websites and attorneys working for free....hmm.

Class action suits usually cover "all similarly situated" people, not just those that actually signed on as plaintiffs. Any ruling on this case (anybody have a complaint draft?) would apply to everyone that could have been aggrieved during the process and all RNC delegates.
 
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Thank you, whoever merged my renegade thread into this one.

Anybody that is in communication with Doug Wead, can you find out if this is legit and then post here so everyone knows once and for all? I'm excited as hell to hear this--assuming it is legit--and if it is legit, I don't want people not participating out of fear. I want to see some legal ass-kicking upon those who deserve the smackdown.

Can anybody verify?
 
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