Unofficial Results

[athlon64bit]

Thank you Sandra.

 

[yankee_blue]

I got this by my own calculations, no provisionals counted, an unofficial:

District 1: 0 Delegates
District 2: 0 Delegates
District 3: 5 Delegates
District 4: 1 Delegate
District 5: 10 Delegates
District 6: 0 Delegates
District 7: 0 Delegates

Out of 105 Delegates we got 16... Not good... Basically we got outslicked and got our asses handed to us by the Pro Life/Pro Family folks. I can't imagine they did anything illegal. This was not an election for the presidential candidate but an election of delegates. They can campaign however they want to.

Outsmarted. Outfoxed. Bitter pill.

 

[jersdream]

Agreed Yankee blue,

the Louisiana team was arrogant, shame on them...they bragged, celebrated, etc. without countering this move....they cots us this election.

 

[ChicagoLawyer]

I wasn't at the caucuses, and have only been to Louisiana once in my life, but I think these results are probably not too bad as long as the "Pro-Life/Pro-Family" elected delegates are split between different candidates in their own preferences. My understanding is they will all vote (whether state-wide or by district) at the state convention on February 16 for the actual national delegates, unless a candidate gets over 50% of the vote in the primary on February 9. Unless every candidate drops out right after Super Tuesday on February 5, I don't see that happening. Therefore, when the P-L-P-F people vote on February 16 they'll each have to pick their favorite candidate. Unless they take a vote amongst themselves and vote en mass for THAT winner (which I guess they could do) they'll split their vote among the Huck, McCain, Romney, Rudy, and maybe even a few for Ron Paul. That means that it'll still be a race that Ron Paul will have a lot of voters in.

Plus, there's still the provisional ballots, so a lot if still to come.

 

[Sandra]

Jersdream is a troll. We Have to wait for provisional ballots to be counted. Hundreds of votes were cast that way from RP supporters so please keep your crappy comments until they come in. No body will give official counts until these come in. Why Dore sent that email is a complete mystery to me.

 

[PennCustom4RP]

Agreed Yankee blue,

the Louisiana team was arrogant, shame on them...they bragged, celebrated, etc. without countering this move....they cots us this election.

Ok ...how do you counter it, we fill every delegate slate, alternates too...maxed...

 

[tonyr1988]

Agreed Yankee blue,

the Louisiana team was arrogant, shame on them...they bragged, celebrated, etc. without countering this move....they cots us this election.

*Way* too harsh, *way* too early.

At least wait until we fscking know something for sure.

 

[Sarge]

I am wondering how they could come in on the night of caucus and make up a new slate?

I thought that had to be listed and approved ahead of time. Any help on understanding this will be appreciated.

From earlier reading, I thought it was too late for them to do this. If this is allowed, it would seem to say one need not do anything prior, and then just be able to come in and steal votes when they didn't get their slates of delegates lined up timely. All might want to work for rule changes, so this can't happen in the future.

 

[Pii]

Can we not dump on the Louisiana supporters please?

They certainly got a great turnout, and had a really strong presence all over the place.

Now if the provisional votes haven't yet been counted, and they are "provisional" based on the fact that they were newly registered republicans, and there are really as many provisional ballots are we are hearing about, then this isn't close to over.

You think all of those recently registered republicans switched party affiliations so they could vote for Romney, McCain, Giuliani, or PROLIFE? I think not...

 

[tonyr1988]

I wasn't at the caucuses, and have only been to Louisiana once in my life, but I think these results are probably not too bad as long as the "Pro-Life/Pro-Family" elected delegates are split between different candidates in their own preferences. My understanding is they will all vote (whether state-wide or by district) at the state convention on February 16 for the actual national delegates, unless a candidate gets over 50% of the vote in the primary on February 9. Unless every candidate drops out right after Super Tuesday on February 5, I don't see that happening. Therefore, when the P-L-P-F people vote on February 16 they'll each have to pick their favorite candidate. Unless they take a vote amongst themselves and vote en mass for THAT winner (which I guess they could do) they'll split their vote among the Huck, McCain, Romney, Rudy, and maybe even a few for Ron Paul. That means that it'll still be a race that Ron Paul will have a lot of voters in.

Plus, there's still the provisional ballots, so a lot if still to come.

Why do they have to split their vote at the state convention? Don't all of LA delegates (barring 50%+1 in primary) go to the national convention as "undeclared"? So won't they just vote for other PLPF people, leaving us with zero? (speculation, assuming prelim data is correct)

 

[bradens4ronpaul]

Agreed Yankee blue,

the Louisiana team was arrogant, shame on them...they bragged, celebrated, etc. without countering this move....they cots us this election.

Well, that is just not in the spirit of things. Our people worked tirelessly on many different areas and in many different ways. At first glance, yeah, everyone here thought we had it, however, how would you fight a priest/pastor getting in front of 300 or so people and telling them to vote for this "pro-life" ticket. This happened at several churches we are aware of, and we tried to counter that by distributing hundreds of RP's pro-life fliers in the church parking lots!
We did what we could, and we are heartbroken to see these results. But, thanks for giving us credit where credit is due.

 

[PennCustom4RP]

Why do they have to split their vote at the state convention? Don't all of LA delegates (barring 50%+1 in primary) go to the national convention as "undeclared"? So won't they just vote for other PLPF people, leaving us with zero? (speculation, assuming prelim data is correct)

as I said before, they have to vote for someone, they can't vote this as an issue, and call rudymcromneyhuckleberry a single candidate...

 

[tonyr1988]

as I said before, they have to vote for someone, they can't vote this as an issue, and call rudymcromneyhuckleberry a single candidate...

They have to vote for someone as a delegate, but not as a candidate's delegate, correct? Or do things change at the state convention, and they become part of candidate tickets?

In other words, why can't they still vote for other PLPF people to go to nationals?

 

[yankee_blue]

as I said before, they have to vote for someone, they can't vote this as an issue, and call rudymcromneyhuckleberry a single candidate...

I can't imagine that what the group in question did was wrong or illegal. They had a list of delegates, we were electing delegates. Plain and simple, I believe we were outsmarted. And I can't imagine that the provisionals will make much difference...

 

[Technics2000]

Well, that is just not in the spirit of things. Our people worked tirelessly on many different areas and in many different ways. At first glance, yeah, everyone here thought we had it, however, how would you fight a priest/pastor getting in front of 300 or so people and telling them to vote for this "pro-life" ticket. This happened at several churches we are aware of, and we tried to counter that by distributing hundreds of RP's pro-life fliers in the church parking lots!
We did what we could, and we are heartbroken to see these results. But, thanks for giving us credit where credit is due.

I don't know how we're going to compete with these churches that have a political agenda.

Anyway, Thank you to you and all the other Lousianians (sp?) for all your hard work and dedication!

 

[aymn27]

Ok ...how do you counter it, we fill every delegate slate, alternates too...maxed...

Penn...I swear to G-D I think this is total bullshit....how in the world did this happen..you were there in LC...RP supporters were everywhere....

this is typical LA crap...

 

[ChicagoLawyer]

Why do they have to split their vote at the state convention? Don't all of LA delegates (barring 50%+1 in primary) go to the national convention as "undeclared"? So won't they just vote for other PLPF people, leaving us with zero? (speculation, assuming prelim data is correct)

Good point, although at that point, out in the open at the state convention, you'd think they'd actually talk about what candidates they support as the GOP's nominee for freekin' President. Maybe the P-L-P-F is all a front for an actual candidate, maybe McCain or Romney or the Huck, but it's sounding like that's not the case from the posts I've read.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

I wouldn't say "outsmarted". How do you battle all the other candidates' supporters banding together? You can't.

 

[hudson]

I voted in Shreveport last night and I knew this was going to happen. There were so many old people there that had no idea what was going on. They were handed the pro-life/pro-family sheet of paper and like robots went and voted exactly like they were told. It really is ashame that these all that is required to turn out old people is to say something at church or get a message from one of the lifetime politicians in Louisiana. The only thing I can say is that if any other state has this type of caucus is do NOT hand in delegates strickly under the name of Ron Paul. In Louisiana we should of flooded the undecided side also. Then unknowingly the establishment would have voted them in regardless. Oh well live and learn.

 

[hudson]

This came from the McCain and Guiliani people. There were some high profile endorsements that came down for these 2 in the last week. McCain got an endorsement from Buddy Romer. But I guarantee you they have been working behind the scenes this whole time to try and counter act all the delegates we turned in. We should not of thought otherwise.