What you're seeing is people correcting your misunderstanding of how the BLS purports to collect its data, to which your response is accusation. If you want to assume that the BLS simply fabricates all its data, and then assume that the unemployment rate is X, where X is whatever you believe to be based on anecdotes, by all means. I give exactly zero shits what you think the unemployment rate is. I for one do believe that the BLS does the surveys which it claims to do, because it would be far too easy to be caught not doing them. I also know that they manipulate the analysis of that raw data, as by disregarding the fact that many "discouraged workers" are only discouraged because they're on welfare (as I explained in an earlier post).
I have no misunderstandings of either lies perpetuated by govt, nor the actual unemployment statistics. And since it sounds like you think I am dreaming, lets also consider that under Obama, the legal definition of "Long Term Unemployed" was reduced from two years to one year in order to further manipulate those statistics.
Smoke and mirrors with numbers. Just like our money system. Just like WMDs. Just like 911, Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusatania, Gulf of Tonkin, Alchohol Prohibition, Greenbacks, nah, govt has NEVER EVER lied to us, we are just too dumb to understand any of it.
As humans, it is possible for anyone to be duped and lied to. We are fallible. We make mistakes. The only mistake that I see is NOT that people do not understand either the employment statistical manipulations or even how money works, it IS that people hear what they want to hear because it validates their view of the world. If you really take a look around, not just at me, but the whole damn world, we are in very very deep shit, the boat sank, and we never even had a paddle. That is a reality that is so terrifying to grasp that people, my own family members included, do NOT want to see so they just go with any lies they are told. Reality is terrifying and is what will bite you in the ass if youre not prepared. R3v, I dont think you will personally benefit when the economy goes sideways and makes 2008 look like a walk in the park like I think Zippy will prosper from the suffering of others.
Other points I do agree with, such as welfare / "discouraged workers". That makes sense, to a certain extent, and that is also quite scary. If the 102.6 million working age adults that are not included in the Workforce are mainly there because they've responded to the incentive to just go on welfare (reasonable exceptions from that 102.6 million like students or stay at home moms, etc) that is a terrifying prospect, and a perfect example of why both Socialism and Fiat Currencies always fail. It would be the embodiment of the Cloward Piven Strategy. At 102.6 million, thats roughly a 30% unemployment rate, which I also think sounds way way way too high. I'd estimate 15% to 18%, even right now. Even the difference between the U3 and U6 still shows a very large disagreement with their official and now just phoney sounding numbers. Things do appear to be better than they were. I see "Now Hiring" signs in many minimum wage jobs. So some progress has been made. Im just saying we have not really recovered from 2008 by a very wide margin.
(Cloward Piven Strategy - Overload a nations social support structures to the point the system collapses from the burden on finances and resources)
