Unbanning all drugs

[T-K]

I strongly believe that lifting regulations on drugs would stop a lot of violence and wasted tax money. I have never done any street drugs in my life. Illegal drugs are obviously extremely dangerous with the arguable exception of marijuana.

BUT...

Legalizing drugs would drastically lower prices. Users would be less likely to steal to get drug money.

Think about this. When something is made illegal it goes and underground and criminals know make a killing. Gambling prohibition prostitution and drugs all mean big profits for criminals and this causes fighting over profits. Gang warfare over dealing turf would end overnight when drugs could be bought legitimately.

I also believe that a government doesn't have the right to tell the people how old you have to be to drink.

 

[yongrel]

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5059

 

[Anti Federalist]

Welcome to the forum.

I think you're preaching to the choir tho'.

 

[T-K]

Good to see some intelligent like minded people

 

[pinkmandy]

Welcome!

 

[OptionsTrader]

Prohibition of alcohol increased prices, increased incentive to traffic, and increased crime tremendously. Why tyrants believe they can achieve anything less with drug prohibition is beyond me. Actually it isn't: they desire the beaurocracies it supports and the prison industrial complex it perpetuates.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Good to see some intelligent like minded people

We try.

I don't think there is a single, current, active member that is not, at the very least, in favor of "de-criminalization".

The you have the "tin foil hatters" like myself that think it all should be legalized, right up to heroin, since the CIA and other shadowy intel agencies fund so much of their dirty work by running drugs into this country and abroad.

 

[constitutional]

I strongly believe that lifting regulations on drugs would stop a lot of violence and wasted tax money. I have never done any street drugs in my life. Illegal drugs are obviously extremely dangerous with the arguable exception of marijuana.

BUT...

Legalizing drugs would drastically lower prices. Users would be less likely to steal to get drug money.

Think about this. When something is made illegal it goes and underground and criminals know make a killing. Gambling prohibition prostitution and drugs all mean big profits for criminals and this causes fighting over profits. Gang warfare over dealing turf would end overnight when drugs could be bought legitimately.

I also believe that a government doesn't have the right to tell the people how old you have to be to drink.

Pretend like I'm a neo-con (or a liberal in support of war on drugs) for now and try to argue this rhetoric that they use:

Drugs are bad, it ruins people life. Obviously you've never been to a rehab center? It's horrible. People can't make wise choice. They take drugs, get high and get into an accident or kill a person. It's all horrible. They become so addictive that they steal money to get the drugs.

 

[Dr.3D]

Well, if they unbanned all drugs, then what excuse would they have for the invasion of peoples privacy and all of the forfeiture they keep doing?
Besides, who would fill the prisons they own? They have to have some slaves ya know.

 

[OptionsTrader]

Pretend like I'm a neo-con (or a liberal in support of war on drugs) for now and try to argue this rhetoric that they use:

Drugs are bad, it ruins people life. Obviously you've never been to a rehab center? It's horrible. People can't make wise choice. They take drugs, get high and get into an accident or kill a person. It's all horrible. They become so addictive that they steal money to get the drugs.

Food is bad, it ruins people's lives. Obviously you've never been to a cardiac surgery center? It's horrible! All of this gunk in their arteries and their families lives are so strained. People cannot make wise food choices. They eat too much, get obese, and die early leaving their children homeless. It's all horrible. They leave you no room to sit in airpanes and drive up food prices. Food should be make illegal.

 

[Fields]

Food is bad, it ruins people's lives. Obviously you've never been to a cardiac surgery center? It's horrible! All of this gunk in their arteries and their families lives are so strained. People cannot make wise food choices. They eat too much, get obese, and die early leaving their children homeless. It's all horrible. They leave you no room to sit in airpanes and drive up food prices. Food should be make illegal.

Pwnd.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Pwnd.

Hey Fields!

I asked once before about your sig lines, but it must have gotten lost in the shuffle.

What's your personal reason for using them and are you familiar with the mistranslations in newer scriptures?

 

[James Madison]

Considering the government has been caught red handed shipping heroine and cocaine in through the CIA, we will NEVER see a legalization of drugs until the current power structure is changed. The Feds love it because not only does it destroy the ghettos and the like, especially cocaine, but it also gives them an excuse to create more bureaucracy.

 

[constitutional]

Food is bad, it ruins people's lives. Obviously you've never been to a cardiac surgery center? It's horrible! All of this gunk in their arteries and their families lives are so strained. People cannot make wise food choices. They eat too much, get obese, and die early leaving their children homeless. It's all horrible. They leave you no room to sit in airpanes and drive up food prices. Food should be make illegal.

I also use food as an example to counter that. Doesn't always work out well.

Alright, I'm back to being a neo-con:

But food is a necessity unlike drugs to begin with. A person consuming a lot of food doesn't kill other people like drugs... it doesn't cause people to steal or kill.

 

[pcosmar]

I also use food as an example to counter that. Doesn't always work out well.

Alright, I'm back to being a neo-con:

But food is a necessity unlike drugs to begin with. A person consuming a lot of food doesn't kill other people like drugs... it doesn't cause people to steal or kill.

It does if they are hungry.
You might be surprised what starving people are capable of.

Whos gonna steal the peanut butter
Ill get the can of sardines
Runnin up and down the aisle of the mini mart
Stickin food in our jeans
We never took more than we could eat
There was plenty left on the rack
We all swore if we ever got rich
We would pay the mini mart back
Yes sir! yes sir!
We would pay the mini mart back
by Jimmy Buffett

You might google "Donner Party"

 

[SeanEdwards]

Bad drugs are bad.

Mmkay?

 

[[email protected]]

Welcome to the forum.

I think you're preaching to the choir tho'.

Is it time for choir practice yet?

Bienvenidos a RPF!

 

[[email protected]]

Considering the government has been caught red handed shipping heroine and cocaine in through the CIA, we will NEVER see a legalization of drugs until the current power structure is changed. The Feds love it because not only does it destroy the ghettos and the like, especially cocaine, but it also gives them an excuse to create more bureaucracy.

The phony, bullshit "war on drugs" is a win-win-win-win situation for them. They make a shitload of money importing drugs. They make a shitload of money seizing property from citizens who are just casual users. They make a shitload of money incarcerating casual users. And they get a shitload of new powers to spy and snoop on us and further entrench their monopoly on power as they use those surveillance powers to silence opposition in the name of fighting "narco-terrorists" (which they sponsor to begin with).

 

[pcosmar]

But food is a necessity unlike drugs to begin with. A person consuming a lot of food doesn't kill other people like drugs... it doesn't cause people to steal or kill.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25048249/

Like much of the rest of the world, Egypt has been wracked by rising food prices and stagnant wages, resulting in protests and demonstrations.

There has also been a shortage of the subsidized bread relied on by vast segments of this impoverished country of 76.5 million.

Some 10 people were reported killed since the beginning of the year after scuffles in bread lines.

I could probably find more, but it was a quick search.

 

[belian78]

I also use food as an example to counter that. Doesn't always work out well.

Alright, I'm back to being a neo-con:

But food is a necessity unlike drugs to begin with. A person consuming a lot of food doesn't kill other people like drugs... it doesn't cause people to steal or kill.

you know... this could be a great idea and tool for the forums, and maybe even CFL. have a few subforums for 'devil's advocate' training. we could have a couple people play devil's advocate and the rest of the posters would have to debate with them.

it could be a great way to hone our skills for RL. what's ya think?