UK in worse state that the US. Please Help!

Digged it. I know that you guys have got big brother watching you over in the UK with all of the security cameras everywhere. Good luck.
 
We are so far gone I wouldn't be suprised if they rename the UK to Airstrip One very soon!
 
"Avoid foreign entanglements!" :)

We have more than enough problems, just trying to clean up our own crappy government.<IMHO>
 
You guys have George Galloway... :)
George is a fuckin STAR. but he is a loon, crackpot like RP and 'unelectable' ;)

Thanks for the Diggs. The movement goes on...

While I'm here, can I draw parallels which may spark inspiration in some of you, and used in debate?

For all those people in your country who say that if we withdraw from Iraq, and let the people of Iraq decide on their destiny, there will be more terror. Tell them this little mentioned story.

For nearly 40 years there was terrorism in the UK like you's guys could not imagine. IRA, UDA etc etc bombs every WEEK. Shootings and murders EVERY DAY, in both Northern Ireland, and the UK (sensibly the govt of the Irish Republic did not get into entangling alliances). This went on for YEARS... we send more troops, we get more terror, more terrorists, more dead troops, more dead civilians, more population segregation, more hatred, then we send some more troops with bigger guns to keep the people 'apart', we get more bombs, even more extreme attacks. So more troops... i can go on...
It 'felt' like the people of Ireland hated us (even though it was our policies they actually hated), 'some' of the people of AMERICA supported the IRA's fight for freedom, but we British continued because we knew best.
We fucked over plenty of other countries too during those times. Argentina, Iraq, Lebanon, etc, etc.
Anyway, a political movement called 'New Labour' (Obama draws some parallels) promised to solve our terrorism woes without a McCain style approach. They told the people of Northern Ireland to sort it out for themselves, and they HELPED them in anyway they could by the means of dialog. Today, Northern Ireland is thriving. Terrorism in the UK and NI has fallen to ZERO. These terrorists do not exist anymore (It took all of 10 years)
Sure, there may still a couple of old school 'extremists' around, but there is no one there to preach to now.

It's just a pity that Mr Tony Blair did this only for political gain, and not on grounds of morality, as he has so proven with the Iraq debunckle.

You's guys are so lucky. You have a constitution to base your morality on. All we have over here, is the bible. :(

Good luck.
 
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I moved to the US 8 years ago (thankfully). I think the UK is too far gone in the socialist cesspit. Both major parties are totally socialist in their ideologies. You could just wait for everything to implode (like Marxist/communist/socialist states always do eventually).

Sorry. I hate to put you on a downer with this and I see the US going the exact same way, which is why I'm such a fervent Ron Paul supporter.

Here's some Sex Pistols to cheer you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzt1sFR_L8
 
Today, Northern Ireland is thriving. Terrorism in the UK and NI has fallen to ZERO. These terrorists do not exist anymore (It took all of 10 years)
Oh, I forgot to mention. There are no British troops in Northern Ireland anymore, we're having them killed in Afghanistan and Iraq at the moment. (One of my good friends was killed in NI, and two friend's sons killed in Iraq)
 
I moved to the US 8 years ago (thankfully). I think the UK is too far gone in the socialist cesspit. Both major parties are totally socialist in their ideologies. You could just wait for everything to implode (like Marxist/communist/socialist states always do eventually).

Sorry. I hate to put you on a downer with this and I see the US going the exact same way, which is why I'm such a fervent Ron Paul supporter.

Here's some Sex Pistols to cheer you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzt1sFR_L8

Here's a more fitting song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I42c6RP04xU

Oh, sorry, that's not cheerful at all, my bad.

Its not just the US and the UK, the whole world is in various stages of this Orwellian nightmare.
 
It's true... but slowly getting eroded. Each time it gets eroded, it becomes easier to erode the next time. :(
 
One of the main reasons I'm so into the RP movement is because of my friends overseas, and my love for the EU (but I have no love for the EU... government...). I love Germany and Holland... even France if I'm visiting. I got friends in the UK and I want to go there next year...

If RP won, the world would be amazing.. tourism would thrive, peace would prosper, economies would bustle... idk... IMO we don't have much time to fix the wrongs that have been going on for the past 70 years+ ... there's only so much war that can be waged until the populace is literally died off.
 
The economies of many western nations will crash....and the mighty globalists will be glad to save the day!
 
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