Uber self-driving car kills pedestrian in first fatal autonomous crash

[nikcers]

Who was the first victim?

The taxi cab companies who spent decades lobbying for regulations on taxi cabs.

$#@! them, Uber economy ftw..

That doesn't mean I'm excited about self-driving cars, but using technology to get around government regulations and being more efficient is really what people refer to as the "uber economy" anyway. Nobody refers to self driving cars as the "uber economy", it is more for stuff like ridesharing, airbnb, craigslist, etc.. stuff that people didn't want the government regulating in the first place.

no as in homeless

 

[vita3]

F* U ROBOTS.

 

[dannno]

no as in homeless

"Uber Economy" is typically a word that socialists use to describe new relatively unregulated markets that people are using to get around government regulations.

 

[wizardwatson]

Yeah, it's so much better when a human kills another human. Cuz then we know they did everything in their power to drive safely and keep their eyes on the road.

A good law would be making the robot cars stand out. A gaudy color or specific kind of lights or something.

I want my cop cars and robot cars easy to spot.

 

[angelatc]

Who do we point fingers to, now?

Obama

 

[nikcers]

"Uber Economy" is typically a word that socialists use to describe new relatively unregulated markets that people are using to get around government regulations.

IDK what socialist say, I don't really talk to them much. Generally its used to define the economic period of time that we are in now. Uber is more than just a app, like you said, its much more then that. Its a first step to a significant change in society in which people are connected.

 

[nikcers]

Yeah, it's so much better when a human kills another human. Cuz then we know they did everything in their power to drive safely and keep their eyes on the road.

A good law would be making the robot cars stand out. A gaudy color or specific kind of lights or something.

I want my cop cars and robot cars easy to spot.

Yeah we just need more laws, that will fix everything, they should just make it to where pedestrians aren't allowed in the road and if you need to cross the street you have to call an uber.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, it's so much better when a human kills another human. Cuz then we know they did everything in their power to drive safely and keep their eyes on the road.

A good law would be making the robot cars stand out. A gaudy color or specific kind of lights or something.

I want my cop cars and robot cars easy to spot.

A good law would hold everyone involved from the programmer and manufacturer to the human at the wheel (if the manual overrides were fully functional and not dispensed with) responsible for any damage caused by these monstrosities, then the market could decide if the risk was worth it.

 

[pcosmar]

Obama

Long before Obama.

Self driving vehicles have been developed since the 70s..

That van ran on a prerecorded trip tape. Cassette Tape.

edit,
even before I knew. I remember a Van featured in Playboy late 60s or early 70s.

https://www.wired.com/2012/02/autonomous-vehicle-history/

The idea of autonomous vehicles gained widespread public exposure at GM's Futurama exhibit at the 1939 World’s Fair, where the automaker envisioned "abundant sunshine, fresh air [and] fine green parkways" upon which cars would drive themselves.

so yeah,, before I was born.

 

[wizardwatson]

Yeah we just need more laws, that will fix everything, they should just make it to where pedestrians aren't allowed in the road and if you need to cross the street you have to call an uber.

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

 

[angelatc]

Yeah we just need more laws, that will fix everything, they should just make it to where pedestrians aren't allowed in the road and if you need to cross the street you have to call an uber.

I want my jetpack

 

[wizardwatson]

A good law would hold everyone involved from the programmer and manufacturer to the human at the wheel (if the manual overrides were fully functional and not dispensed with) responsible for any damage caused by these monstrosities, then the market could decide if the risk was worth it.

We can't even get an elected bureaucrat to lose his job over killing civilians in an illegal war. Snowballs chance in hell a robot that needs more testing, or an experimental bridge pancaking 6 people to death is going to enlighten America about stripping corporate personhood across the board.

 

[brushfire]

I recall, a few years back, a woman in my town striking a motorcyclist while she was applying makeup. The motorcyclist took a few hours to die, while the woman's mascara ran. Man dead, woman never spent a day in prison...

So what difference does it make whether someone is putting on eyeshadow, playing with their phone, changing 1 of 500 stations on satellite radio, adjusting their heated seat, plugging in coordinates into their gps, snap chatting a picture of their snapper, texting their grandma, putting a dvd on for their kids, or rolling with their autopilot? Who the fk has the attention span for driving on these congested government roads?

 

[nikcers]

We can't even get an elected bureaucrat to lose his job over killing civilians in an illegal war. Snowballs chance in hell a robot that needs more testing, or an experimental bridge pancaking 6 people to death is going to enlighten America about stripping corporate personhood across the board.

Some people just are more equal then others. Alice Walton talked candidly about it when she was drunk in 1998. She can get away with running people over without any rule of law. The golden rule is whoever owns the gold makes the rules right?

Walton, daughter of Wal-Mart Stores Inc. founder Sam Walton, crashed her car Jan. 27 near her home. She broke her nose when her car hit a gas meter and a telephone box. Walton testified that she had had a few drinks but wasn't drunk.

Her attorneys argued that the crash could have been caused by fatigue after a full day of business meetings.
Police officers testified that Walton repeatedly refused to submit to a blood-alcohol test.

"She turned back to me and said, 'Do you know who I am? Do you know my last name?' " Police Officer Charles Motsinger testified

 

[acptulsa]

Long before Obama.

Self driving vehicles have been developed since the 70s..

That van ran on a prerecorded trip tape. Cassette Tape.

edit,
even before I knew. I remember a Van featured in Playboy late 60s or early 70s.

https://www.wired.com/2012/02/autonomous-vehicle-history/


so yeah,, before I was born.

Oh, GM didn't have anything of the sort in 1939. I think they had a diorama display set up showing their vision of superhighways, which had some very early slot cars. But the best they could offer for the real world was the first version of the Hydra Matic.

The earliest self-driving vehicles I know of were these monsters, which use locomotive drivelines and haul 100-200 tons of dirt and rock:

They're used in strip mines. In the late seventies and early eighties, they began setting them up to follow buried wires. There was no one around but employees, and they understood they needed to stay the hell out of the way.

A driver was needed to drive them under the shovel, and to dump them. At first, drivers had to climb up the ladder at the end of the wire, and after driving them back to the wire, climb back down. But the manufacturer quickly developed radio control, each truck on its own frequency.

 

[phill4paul]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The car was trying to download a video and also send live audio and video of the interior of the car to the central server at the time of the accident. Distracted driving and lack of bandwidth at fault.

 

[nikcers]

The car was trying to download a video and also send live audio and video of the interior of the car to the central server at the time of the accident. Distracted driving and lack of bandwidth at fault.

I was watching this left wing news channel and they said Russia hacked the car, and when I changed my channel to the right wing channel they said it was Chinese slave labor that killed the woman.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The car was trying to download a video and also send live audio and video of the interior of the car to the central server at the time of the accident. Distracted driving and lack of bandwidth at fault.

Because surveillance is more important than human life, what is the matter with your priorities?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Update 3: Tempe Police confirmed in a press conference that the Uber vehicle was traveling at around 40mph (with no signs yet that it was slowing down) when it struck the pedestrian.
The "driver" of the vehicle was Rafael Vasquez, 44, Tempe PD says he was not impaired.
There were no signs of impairment in the victim, Elaine Herzberg, 49, who Tempe Police says they "believe she may have been" homeless.
The police confirmed they have video of the Uber accident, which will not be released, and the county attorney is deciding whether to file charges.
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Update 2: Peter Kurdock, director of regulatory affairs for Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety in Washington, called the Arizona crash tragic.
The group sent a letter Monday to Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao saying it is concerned about a lack of action and oversight by the department as autonomous vehicles are developed. That letter was planned before the crash.
Kurdock said the deadly accident should serve as a “startling reminder” to members of Congress that they need to “think through all the issues to put together the best bill they can to hopefully prevent more of these tragedies from occurring.”
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