U.S. diplomat died 'doing what she loved' in Afghanistan

[Nirvikalpa]

Afghans can do medical work. They dont want foreigners there. Don't go there. Do something else. Tell everyone who is even thinking about providing medical care in Afghanistan not to go there.

Afghanistan: MSF to Resume Medical Activities in Khosthttp://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/press/release.cfm?id=6359&cat=press-release

“We are reopening the hospital because of the overwhelming messages of support for MSF we received from the community, and because of reassurances that our patients and medical staff will be safe inside the hospital,” said Benoit De Gryse, MSF’s country representative in Afghanistan.

In April, a bomb exploded inside the maternity hospital, injuring seven people. The attack occurred six weeks after MSF opened the facility, where more than 600 women had already delivered babies.

“Current circumstances make it possible for our teams in Khost to resume providing free, high-quality medical care for pregnant women, particularly those who cannot afford to pay for treatment and those suffering complicated pregnancies and deliveries,” De Gryse said.

Prior to reopening the hospital before the end of the year, necessary logistical work will be carried out and an all-female team of Afghan medical staff—including midwives and nurses—will be recruited to work alongside international colleagues; they are essential for the resumption of high-quality medical care in the hospital.

Support from the community and respect for the safety and security of patients, health facilities, and medical staff enable MSF to work in three other locations in Afghanistan and in more than 70 other countries.

MSF medical teams work in Ahmad Shah Baba Hospital in eastern Kabul and Boost Hospital in Lashkargah, Helmand Province. The organization also runs a surgical trauma center in Kunduz, providing lifesaving surgical care to people in northern Afghanistan. In all locations, MSF provides medical care free of charge and works in all wards of the hospitals. MSF does not accept funds from any government for its work in Afghanistan, relying solely on private funding.

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[itshappening]

Nirvikalpa, MSF or whoever it doesn't matter. They're going to target any foreigner. This is their jihad. It's a dangerous place and the State Dept will tell you and me not to travel there.

Afghans should be able to train their own people to do medical care. They dont need MSF there.

 

[JK/SEA]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-interventionism

Ron Paul supports this. As do i.

 

[klamath]

Car bombs are going off daily. The State dept's own advisory should be saying this is a dangerous place and not to travel there.

If you go to this hellhole you're at serious risk of kidnap, torture or death.

It's not rocket science.

These idealistic young people who clap like a seal at the sight of Hillary Clinton and who think they're saving the world are dead wrong. They're not wanted in these countries and should NOT be there. Do something else.

And you are making a very big jump. All Afgan people do not hate all Americans. Your assumption is that all afgan people love and want the taliban back. Wrong. Even the world famous National Geographic Afgan Girl that grew up to be a very fundamentalist muslim wanted her daughters to be educated.

 

[jay_dub]

And you are making a very big jump. All Afgan people do not hate all Americans. Your assumption is that all afgan people love and want the taliban back. Wrong. Even the world famous National Geographic Afgan Girl that grew up to be a very fundamentalist muslim wanted her daughters to be educated.

I'd say you're the one making the big jump. I don't see any post where it'shappening implied the Afghans love the Taliban.

You can't win a people over with books and medicine as long as bullets and bombs are part of the package.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It's a sad story. Her heart was in the right place.

I would point out that she was an up and comer, and moving up the ranks fairly fast. She was always in the company of the highest ranking US or Afghan authorities, and in their convoys. Like it or not, she was a high value target for the Taliban, based on her connections and "companions". The situation is similar to the Ambassador Stevens case (or his assistants).

If she was only doing charity work, she probably would have been a lot safer.

 

[juleswin]

And you are making a very big jump. All Afgan people do not hate all Americans. Your assumption is that all afgan people love and want the taliban back. Wrong. Even the world famous National Geographic Afgan Girl that grew up to be a very fundamentalist muslim wanted her daughters to be educated.

True but the American presence affects all Afghans and the ones being negatively affected will fight the Americas when they can. Its sorta like the deal with gun control, most Americans support gun control and yet we in the minority fight it. Ofc we fight it not because we don't want to deny the gun control advocates to the right to disarm themselves but we fight them because we do not want to be disarmed i.e. affected by their stupid laws.

When the American army uses depleted uranium rounds, fires from drones in their homes then Afghans who are awake will step and do what is right to end the occupation. Its sad that she had to die because most likely, she truly believed she was helping the people of Afghanistan.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Charities were in Iraq/Afghanistan before the occupation started...

Car bombs are going off daily. The State dept's own advisory should be saying this is a dangerous place and not to travel there.

If you go to this hellhole you're at serious risk of kidnap, torture or death.

It's not rocket science.

These idealistic young people who clap like a seal at the sight of Hillary Clinton and who think they're saving the world are dead wrong. They're not wanted in these countries and should NOT be there. Do something else.

Ah, I understand it now. Nice choice of words.

 

[itshappening]

Charities were in Iraq/Afghanistan before the occupation started...

And?

 

[klamath]

I'd say you're the one making the big jump. I don't see any post where it'shappening implied the Afghans love the Taliban.

You can't win a people over with books and medicine as long as bullets and bombs are part of the package.

No. It is the generalization that "they" hate us. It is as bad as saying "they hate us for our freedoms" And yes some of them do hate us for that and would kill immoral Americans whether or not we had an occuping force there. It is the generalizations get people into a lot of trouble. East Indians love to rape and kill women....

 

[itshappening]

No. It is the generalization that "they" hate us. It is as bad as saying "they hate us for our freedoms" And yes some of them do hate us for that and would kill immoral Americans whether or not we had an occuping force there. It is the generalizations get people into a lot of trouble. East Indians love to rape and kill women....

They don't want foreigners there. Whether it's a Brit, American or Australian. None should be in Afghanistan. There is no reason to be there. LEAVE.

 

[belian78]

I'd say you're the one making the big jump. I don't see any post where it'shappening implied the Afghans love the Taliban.

You can't win a people over with books and medicine as long as bullets and bombs are part of the package.

Exactly my point.

 

[itshappening]

Charities were in Iraq/Afghanistan before the occupation started...



Ah, I understand it now. Nice choice of words.

Iraq was peaceful under the strongman Saddam. There weren't car bombs and 50 people being blown up every day. He had a grip on things.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

No one is denying it is dangerous.

Let Americans (and non-Americans, for that matter) choose to live their lives the way they see fit - including offering humanitarian aid to war-torn Countries, potentially putting their lives at risk.

It's not rocket science.

 

[itshappening]

No one is denying it is dangerous.

Let Americans (and non-Americans, for that matter) choose to live their lives the way they see fit - including offering humanitarian aid to war-torn Countries, potentially putting their lives at risk.

It's not rocket science.

Of course people can do what they want. I'm just hoping they listen to the State Dept's own advice and leave or don't travel there. Sadly there are hundreds of thousands of Americans in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. They're all targets.

 

[klamath]

They don't want foreigners there. Whether it's a Brit, American or Australian. None should be in Afghanistan. There is no reason to be there. LEAVE.

There you go with that "they" "they" "they". Have you been there? Have you talked to individual people? Have they all said the hate your guts and they want to kill you because you are a foreigner? You are making a grand arguement for nuking the "Hellhole" into glass slag.

 

[belian78]

No one is denying it is dangerous.

Let Americans (and non-Americans, for that matter) choose to live their lives the way they see fit - including offering humanitarian aid to war-torn Countries, potentially putting their lives at risk.

It's not rocket science.

Holy jumpin jehosephats, all we're saying is trying to do this while we are dropping bombs on them probably isnt the best timing. But yes if someone feels that strongly, and they know the risks, best of luck to ya I say. But tear jerking propaganda pieces are not needed in these cases, as the people know full well what they are getting themselves into.

 

[klamath]

Iraq was peaceful under the strongman Saddam. There weren't car bombs and 50 people being blown up every day. He had a grip on things.

You need to get out more. Iraq was peaceful.??? Ask the kurds. Ask the sunnis. Ask the Iranians.

 

[belian78]

You need to get out more. Iraq was peaceful.??? Ask the kurds. Ask the sunnis. Ask the Iranians.

So the region is all rainbows and gumdrops since we ousted that mean ole Saddam? Seriously, it wasn't good but it wasn't this bad and it didn't spill over into other countries.

 

[klamath]

So the region is all rainbows and gumdrops since we ousted that mean ole Saddam? Seriously, it wasn't good but it wasn't this bad and it didn't spill over into other countries.

Ask the iranians and the kuwaiti if it spilled over. I am not saying it is rainbows and gumdrops now but to say it was peaceful under Sadamn is flat out ignorant.