Two possibilities

[German]

hi

i m following the Ron Paul campaign from Germany because a change coming with someone like Mr. Paul will help my country to be free again too. (actually we ar NOT a free country, same bankster puppets here)

The last results show two distinct possibilies of interpretation:

1st: The whole thing is fraud. Nobody knows the transformation process from the paper ballots to the Assosiated Press results Exactly, in fact they COULD produce ANY result they need .... but this is barely provable

2nd: There are no more then 8-10% of intelligent, not ignorant, self thinking people left (this would meet my experience in Germany). All you here represent no more then 10% of the whole population...the rest will ever be easy to manipulate, mass media consuming sheeple


Unfortunately I think the 2nd is more likely

 

[Give me liberty]

and u know what? the anti war people thought McCain is going to bring back troops home lol.


Wishfully thinking.


BTW welcome to the fourms

and we still have hope, ron doesnt give in.

 

[beobeli]

You are probably right...

I look at Ron Paul message as a "new" thing that needs to be adapted in "the market place". Amazingly because of his electric and eye-opening message/education the message has spread rapidly. It zoomed through "innovators" and "early adopters". Now it is slowing down as it encounters "early majority".

These are ideas from "Crossing the Chasm" (Geoffrey Moore) on adaptation of new technology.

This is marketing game. We have an "innovative" message to talk about. But we are not delivering the "story" in the most appropriate way. We are pushing it onto people too much. Ron is the best one to deliver the message, but he is being shunned away when it is critical. He needs to stand his ground, and I think he is now pissed enough at the treatment that he will do just that (e.g., recent interview with Laura Ingraham)

I am no giving up yet.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Thanks for posting and there is probably some truth to both your points. I think it would be incorrect to paint everyone who does not currently support Dr. Paul as being in some way "inferior". I think there may be many good reasons they have not understood the present situation. Those who are older were raised on television and never made the transition to computers and the internet. Those who are younger are very busy keeping up with the day to day demands of maintaining their family. Many people are raising three or more kids and holding down two or more jobs and fighting a devaluing currency and increased bureaucracy.

Many just don't have the time to notice what is happening to our country at an ever accelerating pace. Others have never trained their minds to think outside of their occupational and social spheres. I am not saying they are without accountability but I do say given the right information and sufficient time they can and will grasp the facts of the matter which so imperil us all throughout the world.

We cannot afford to recoil into a bubble of arrogant moral superiority even if in some way it may be partly true. Dr. Paul has stood with very very few by his side for decades against the monolithic monstrosity and yet embarked on this seemingly hopeless campaign to further the cause by some unknown and unlikely measure. Apparently he knew some of us were not in any way inferior but rather fully capable of understanding the message of freedom.

There are still many more to reach.

 

[wildflower]

hi

i m following the Ron Paul campaign from Germany because a change coming with someone like Mr. Paul will help my country to be free again too. (actually we ar NOT a free country, same bankster puppets here)

The last results show two distinct possibilies of interpretation:

1st: The whole thing is fraud. Nobody knows the transformation process from the paper ballots to the Assosiated Press results Exactly, in fact they COULD produce ANY result they need .... but this is barely provable

2nd: There are no more then 8-10% of intelligent, not ignorant, self thinking people left (this would meet my experience in Germany). All you here represent no more then 10% of the whole population...the rest will ever be easy to manipulate, mass media consuming sheeple


Unfortunately I think the 2nd is more likely

We had a number of reports from people living in NH that Ron Paul is very popular there, signs everywhere (more than the other candidates) and there were all sorts of other indications that he has a lot of support there.

Check out this video, and there were other videos showing similar things.

I don't buy that he came in almost last, no way.

We already discovered that something funny went on - they reported that at least one county got 0 votes for Paul, and tonight a couple people stated that they know of people in that county who voted for Paul. (that still needs to be verified.) If you read other threads, other very odd things are being found.

 

[German]

Would love to hear that fraud is proven. But the mass media would let fade it away, barely even mention it...

One thing that could make the majority of people wake up is a collapsing economy (guess whats happening slowly) There is a good saying here: "Only if the German has to eat ground bricks for breakfast he will wake up".

Most poeple just feel still too comfortable.

 

[legion]

It was #2, but we are working on fixing it.

 

[TruthLiberates]

more possibilities

Hello German,

I use to live in Hessen area years ago among my relatives so it is interesting to hear what the Germans think of our election.

I agree with what you have stated. Only 10% people can understand that pulling our troops home right away should be a priority? That is a sad measure for the Reds but perhaps the Blues have aborbed our war votes. You don't even need intellegence to know that the war is wrong. This is why I believe the Red party has been hijacked by the neocons and the Blues will win the election.

So then you take a look at our dollar being worth 4 cents...so yes, you are correct...it takes intellegence to understand that spending trillions of $ on wars will deflate the dollar.

But you would THINK that getting rid of the IRS would get 100% backing from all the American people. Now that doesn't take intellegence to know that the money you earn is yours to keep! It is common sense even if you have never read the constitution.

 

[German]

Hello German,

I use to live in Hessen area years ago among my relatives so it is interesting to hear what the Germans think of our election.

I agree with what you have stated. Only 10% people can understand that pulling our troops home right away should be a priority? That is a sad measure for the Reds but perhaps the Blues have aborbed our war votes. You don't even need intellegence to know that the war is wrong. This is why I believe the Red party has been hijacked by the neocons and the Blues will win the election.

So then you take a look at our dollar being worth 4 cents...so yes, you are correct...it takes intellegence to understand that spending trillions of $ on wars will deflate the dollar.

But you would THINK that getting rid of the IRS would get 100% backing from all the American people. Now that doesn't take intellegence to know that the money you earn is yours to keep! It is common sense even if you have never read the constitution.

I can tell you the vast mjority here only knows Clinton, Obama and maybe Guhiliani (you have nice spelling for his name).
The media here just copy and paste Associated Press, Reuters etc. like in the whole "western" world.

As for macroeconomic issues like the devaluating of the USD, I suppose most people can`t assass the importance for their own lifes.

It's all about the media.

If they can't exclude R.Paul from the coverage anymore, there is hope. But that should happen rather sooner than later. Just a Jay Leno appearence won't do the trick.
There has to be mentioning and covering just as they do for the CFR-gangsters.