Two Iowa leaders on ’12 Ron Paul campaign might compete for U.S. Senate

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Two Iowa leaders on ’12 Ron Paul campaign might compete for U.S. Senate

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/...compete-for-u-s-senate/article?nclick_check=1

Both the chairman and the vice chairman of Ron Paul’s Iowa presidential campaign are now seriously considering running for U.S. Senate.
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Drew Ivers

Conservative activists Drew Ivers, who was Paul’s 2012 Iowa chairman, and David Fischer, who was vice chairman, are making moves toward a possible bid for the seat U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin will leave open in 2014.

Four Republicans are already declared candidates and at least six others are contemplating it. The more candidates that enter the race, the more likely the primary will end up in a deadlock. If no single candidate gets 35 percent of the June 4, 2014 primary vote, the decision goes to a state convention, usually attend by only the party’s most diehard activists. Paul backers turned out in force to the county and state conventions last year, successfully securing key roles in the Republican party infrastructure for like-minded Iowans.

Ivers and Fischer share the same circle of political allies and very similar political philosophies.

“David is a good friend and I wish him all the best,” Ivers told The Des Moines Register today. “If it gets to the point that we would come very, very close to making a final decision I would have to factor in his process.”
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David Fischer

But, added Ivers, a Webster City resident who is retired from genetics research: “I don’t think it would be exclusionary.”

Fischer, who is co-chairman of the Republican Party of Iowa, said today he doesn’t have a timeline for a decision. “The primary is nearly a year away and I don’t feel any rush to jump in right away,” he told the Register.

Fischer was born in Cedar Rapids and graduated first in his class at Southeast Polk High School, he said. He earned an engineering degree at Iowa State University and started a consulting business in 1993. He lives in rural Polk County with his wife and two children.

The declared candidates are Sam Clovis, a conservative radio talk show host and business professor at Morningside College in Sioux City; David Young, who was U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley’s chief of staff for seven years; Matt Whitaker, a Des Moines lawyer who is a former U.S. attorney; and Paul Lunde, an Ames lawyer. Several others have yet to officially enter the race, including former state Rep. Rod Roberts, state Sen. Joni Ernst, businessman Ron Langston and retired energy company CEO Mark Jacobs.

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Nothing against Drew Ivers, but I think David Fisher might appeal more to younger voters and independents in eastern Iowa.
 
Is this going to be another 2 liberty candidates splitting the vote, allowing the establishment crony to get by?
 
Is this going to be another 2 liberty candidates splitting the vote, allowing the establishment crony to get by?

Reads to me more like they're intentionally splitting the vote, subverting democracy, and bringing it to the state convention where they have a better chance for either of them to win. Neither is going to win a state wide vote at this point.
 
What do the people in Iowa think? I think I remember there were a few people grass roots out there really liked. I think Steve B would be great, but maybe should start at the House level, given he'd be jeapardizing a position he already has with the Iowa GOP. We definitely should run someone good, but they should be good, we have a brand to protect, in a sense, as I see it.
 
How about Kent Sorenson, the state senator who jumped to the Paul campaign after serving as Bachman's Iowa chairman? He gave a terrific speech at LPAC last year, and he really could make a dent with that state's large and ever so crucial socially conservative base.
 
These guys shouldn't compete though...they should talk and if they both want to run, only one should. We can't have any division here. In unity there is strength.
 
Voters in Iowa have handily re-elected Harkin for three decades, it's a Democratic seat. We have a better shot at getting a liberty candidate elected there by fielding a LP candidate to run to win the Democratic primary next year, or have one of the Paul leaders run in the Democratic race, leaving the other the way clear to run in the Republican race. The two party crony paradigm is creating the structural division, and only working around it in this fashion represents a unified approach.
 
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Flood the candidates to prevent a 35% threshold and leave it up to our established network of RP'ers to decide at a state convention? Sure...I'll help make the calls for the convention.
 
How about Kent Sorenson, the state senator who jumped to the Paul campaign after serving as Bachman's Iowa chairman? He gave a terrific speech at LPAC last year, and he really could make a dent with that state's large and ever so crucial socially conservative base.
Sorenson is damaged goods after the Bachmann campaign expenses thing.
 
Who is the better communicator/speaker etc? Usually it's not a problem if they compete. They're not looking for Ron Paul voters. If one of them takes off they will win no matter what.

So who's better? Who has the better story/ability and yes looks (I know it's vapid but that's politics). Also helps if they're polished and know how to say the right things.
 
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Voters in Iowa have handily re-elected Harkin for three decades, it's a Democratic seat.

Wrong it's an open seat now that Harkin is gone and in a Republican year 2014 when usually the opposing party out of the White House wins 5-8 Senate seats based on history in the last 80 years and the 6th year of a presidential term.

PRIME PICKUP OPPORTUNITY. NO BETTER IN AMERICA

The Republican just needs to be articulate, sharp and have enough money and they're pretty much going to have a 55% chance to win
 
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Reads to me more like they're intentionally splitting the vote, subverting democracy, and bringing it to the state convention where they have a better chance for either of them to win. Neither is going to win a state wide vote at this point.

Why can't one of them win? whoever is the better campaigner, speaker, communicator etc. will win. They just need to barnstorm the state day and night, generate headlines, excitement, signup activists and put everything into it. If whoever is suited best can do that and do it well in a polished and professional manner they WILL WIN. Iowa voters will make the choice and the winner will usually win easily.

Usually whoever performs better and who can unite the factions and get out the vote. Whoever can generate more enthusiasm and build a professional campaign from top to bottom and put a year of their life into it and fight to the death. Chuck Grassley did this once and he's been there 30 years!

So pumped about IOWA... the outside endorsements and Rand will be a huge player in this race make no mistake!
 
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Wrong it's an open seat now that Harkin is gone and in a Republican year 2014 when usually the opposing party out of the White House wins 5-8 Senate seats based on history in the last 80 years and the 6th year of a presidential term.

PRIME PICKUP OPPORTUNITY. NO BETTER IN AMERICA

The Republican just needs to be articulate, sharp and have enough money and they're pretty much going to have a 55% chance to win
Wow, I make the same and more similar arguments in favor of Amash doing the same thing in the open Senate seat in Mich yet you've always said no chance despite the exact same dynamics and even better since Justin is already an elected official 3 times over. smh
 
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