[Turkey Day] Have you talked to your family about Dr. Paul?

[mport1]

So at dinner tonight my aunt out of the blue says "We need to talk. I'm now a fan of Ron Paul." We have talked over the years about politics and she had always disliked RP. Now she says she has taken a closer look at him and she said "I never thought I'd say this, but I really like Ron Paul." She said she started to come around to him after hearing all the other candidates and basically thinking they are all a bunch of phonies. She thinks Ron Paul has principle and she really likes his ideas.

She asked me for more information on him so she can better understand where he stands. I suggested Liberty Defined. Anybody think something else would be better? I though that book would be better than Revolution, A Manifesto since she really just wants a quick overview on where he stands on all the issues.

Also, she had one negative about him. First that he needs to get somebody to dress him better. She said his suits don't fit and it makes him look sad. Something we've all been saying for a long time.

 

[SpicyTurkey]

We spoke about RP today. It was positive for the most part.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

So at dinner tonight my aunt out of the blue says "We need to talk. I'm now a fan of Ron Paul." We have talked over the years about politics and she had always disliked RP. Now she says she has taken a closer look at him and she said "I never thought I'd say this, but I really like Ron Paul." She said she started to come around to him after hearing all the other candidates and basically thinking they are all a bunch of phonies. She thinks Ron Paul has principle and she really likes his ideas.

She asked me for more information on him so she can better understand where he stands. I suggested Liberty Defined. Anybody think something else would be better? I though that book would be better than Revolution, A Manifesto since she really just wants a quick overview on where he stands on all the issues.

Also, she had one negative about him. First that he needs to get somebody to dress him better. She said his suits don't fit and it makes him look sad. Something we've all been saying for a long time.

Aside from those books, I suggest Ron's article archive on LRC and his "Texas Straight Talk" recordings.

 

[axlr]

My family spoke of him today. It started by someone calling him an isolationist.
At the end of the day, as that person was saying goodbye to me she said, "Maybe I will vote for Ron Paul"

 

[specsaregood]

Uncle in law brought it up first saying, "you still supporting Ron Paul?"
Me: Of course.
Uncle in law: he's the only one that has a fscking clue about the economy, I wish i had listened to him last time because he called it dead-on.
This was then followed by head-nodding all around the table.

 

[badger4RP]

I convinced them all in 08 to vote RP... not true believers. just Republicans and will vote republican no matter who it is. but at least I've got about 10 more votes in the primary.

 

[speciallyblend]

I'm in Spotsylvania, pretty close to you. There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters around here.

I brought up Ron Paul tonight at dinner. My dad really likes him, and is gonna vote for him in the primary. My mom will probably vote for him too, she usually votes the same as my dad.

My grandparents are basically legit communists, they hate him. Not even gonna try to work on them.

i use to go to courtland high school hehe should of gave smaller portions to the grandparents and when they asked where their food was. You could of said you gave it the folks on the corner and stalin said you need to go on a diet anyway!

 

[BIG_J]

my aunt walked in the door and her first word before even pouring herself a glass of wine was, "We need to talk about the GOP debates..."

I then said, along with my dad and twin brother, "Ron Paul is still the choice and said, "There are countries that have no army navy or air force and we are getting ready to go to war, we're broke."

She agreed, and then handed me back my books by Terry Goodkind (strong libertarian themes in his books) ...I then fixed her computer and she said..., "Ron Paul was on all the news shows this week, I think he can win"

Yes, of course he can.

 

[seraphson]

My folks are convinced that though Ron Paul may be a good guy they don't believe he has the publicity to win. I let them know how well he's doing in the Polls but it more or less passes over their heads. I'm fairly positive that the rest of the family aren't even registered or haven't ever voted before. My brother in law is a big Ron Paul fan but my sister more or less patronizes us, in a joking way of course so we're not really offended or anything, we just laugh it off and I throw in a "I don't know, things could get pretty bad" type deal at the end. I believe this is the real problem. They *somewhat* (by this I mean barely) know that we're in a crappy economy. What they don't realize is that for the "super mega ultra depression" the "news" talks about everything to them seems like any other day. In other words, they can currently work to pay their bills and eat just fine. What they don't realize is that all the ammo is out (by the Fed, the banks, etc.) and it wouldn't take more than one business week for the economy to turn upside down for the final count. Sadly, until they can no longer afford to pay their bills and fill their stomachs they assume everything will be peachy from now until death. In my opinion I'm not even sure of the Eurozone can hold out for another year; and that disaster isn't limited to just them due to our too big to fail setup around the globe. When it becomes crunch time I think the we'll get serious about it.

 

[bamafanmco]

Wow, I didn't read all the posts but they sound pretty positive. My family dreads me getting into a conversation with my uncle, I know that's bad. They force us to sit in separate rooms. I usually stay pretty quiet, but he knows my stances and will say stuff specifically to rile me up. We agree on most everything except foreign policy. Really he concedes most economic points to me, and lacks the same dedications and conviction in his positions. His stance is Democrats are trying to destroy the economy and Republicans are trying to save it. I can't shake him from the right/left paradigm.
But foreign policy, its bad, he wants preemptive war. He wants an eye on every part of the world and troops only a few miles away. He wants to dismantle China's economy. He doesn't understand foreign economic relations. He claims that oil in the Middle East is ours and we must protect it. And his response to my objections are, "your too young", "your uneducated", "you'll understand the need for military bases everywhere at a later age". I'm 24 and the only one in my family with a degree, a degree in economics mind you. While I concede that my beliefs may change in time, I'm fairly convinced that my commitment to the non-aggression axiom will not, certainly not to due a particular age or maturity.

I'm starting to rant. I'm glad for the successes, unfortunately my family is a losing cause.

 

[jason43]

I'm in Spotsylvania, pretty close to you. There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters around here.

I brought up Ron Paul tonight at dinner. My dad really likes him, and is gonna vote for him in the primary. My mom will probably vote for him too, she usually votes the same as my dad.

My grandparents are basically legit communists, they hate him. Not even gonna try to work on them.

I grew up in Spotsy, right by the courthouse. Thats where the party was I was talking about... small world

 

[Xenophage]

My entire family, mother, father, and two sisters are already just as nutty about Ron Paul as I am.

 

[low preference guy]

My entire family, mother, father, and two sisters are already just as nutty about Ron Paul as I am.

Could you give us some clues on how the magic happened?

 

[whoisjohngalt]

My uncle started attacking me and my cousin (who first introduced me to Ron) saying that we only liked Ron Paul because of his stance on drugs. My other cousin, the older brother of the first cousin, stated that all politicians are crooks and he would remain apathetic because he could never be convinced otherwise. This made me very sad. The good news is that my great uncle and aunt who are extremely old and conservative were telling me how much they like him because he wants to bring the troops home (their grandson has been in the Air Force overseas for some time now), but they went on to say that Newt was the smartest man up there. My immediate family kind of supports him because they know how much I love him, but in general I feel like I've failed with my family despite having a ton of success with people I barely know. Great to hear some positive stories.

 

[Eric21ND]

Wow, I didn't read all the posts but they sound pretty positive. My family dreads me getting into a conversation with my uncle, I know that's bad. They force us to sit in separate rooms. I usually stay pretty quiet, but he knows my stances and will say stuff specifically to rile me up. We agree on most everything except foreign policy. Really he concedes most economic points to me, and lacks the same dedications and conviction in his positions. His stance is Democrats are trying to destroy the economy and Republicans are trying to save it. I can't shake him from the right/left paradigm.
But foreign policy, its bad, he wants preemptive war. He wants an eye on every part of the world and troops only a few miles away. He wants to dismantle China's economy. He doesn't understand foreign economic relations. He claims that oil in the Middle East is ours and we must protect it. And his response to my objections are, "your too young", "your uneducated", "you'll understand the need for military bases everywhere at a later age". I'm 24 and the only one in my family with a degree, a degree in economics mind you. While I concede that my beliefs may change in time, I'm fairly convinced that my commitment to the non-aggression axiom will not, certainly not to due a particular age or maturity.

I'm starting to rant. I'm glad for the successes, unfortunately my family is a losing cause.

Send him this Michael Scheuer interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQviZPyeXk

 

[jason43]

Wow, I didn't read all the posts but they sound pretty positive. My family dreads me getting into a conversation with my uncle, I know that's bad. They force us to sit in separate rooms. I usually stay pretty quiet, but he knows my stances and will say stuff specifically to rile me up. We agree on most everything except foreign policy. Really he concedes most economic points to me, and lacks the same dedications and conviction in his positions. His stance is Democrats are trying to destroy the economy and Republicans are trying to save it. I can't shake him from the right/left paradigm.
But foreign policy, its bad, he wants preemptive war. He wants an eye on every part of the world and troops only a few miles away. He wants to dismantle China's economy. He doesn't understand foreign economic relations. He claims that oil in the Middle East is ours and we must protect it. And his response to my objections are, "your too young", "your uneducated", "you'll understand the need for military bases everywhere at a later age". I'm 24 and the only one in my family with a degree, a degree in economics mind you. While I concede that my beliefs may change in time, I'm fairly convinced that my commitment to the non-aggression axiom will not, certainly not to due a particular age or maturity.

I'm starting to rant. I'm glad for the successes, unfortunately my family is a losing cause.

Pull the "gets the most from the military" card out and see what response that gets. I'm a veteran, most of the people waving flags and cheering for war that I've met can't say the same. I'd say a lot of Rons most passionate support comes from military and veterans. None of the other candidates have dozens and dozens of YouTube vids from veterans personally endorcing them.

Some people can't listen to reason and logic, it's fun to expose the hypocrisy and then I'd just walk away. There is no point arguing with someone who can't face facts and logic when they are presented.

 

[ForLiberty2012]

I was sporting my Ron Paul hoodie

 

[Anti Federalist]

He claims that oil in the Middle East is ours and we must protect it.

O'rly?

I would love to hear how you uncle justifies that statement.

 

[affa]

my wife loves ron paul.

my dad is a staunch dem who i can cause to short circuit, but can't convince yet because he's a major proponent of the 'safety net' -- i think in part because he's financially responsible for my grandmother at this point (she's in her late 80s) and without something like social security he fears the worst -- he's completely against even being able to opt out, for fear of the future. i can get him to logical inconsistencies, or force him to admit he's voting for a warmongering president that will assassinate citizens like a despot.. and cause him to short circuit -- i know he's lost faith in the democratic party at some subconscious level, but i can't get him on board with Ron Paul yet. It's odd; i have my differences with RP, but I don't mind that. But certain topics are so ingrained in him that he can't see past something like 'opting out of SS' and realize that pales in comparison to bombing innocent people overseas (even though he's against war).

still working on him, when i can. fortunately, most dems i know are already leaning towards Ron Paul. though my mom still thinks he's 'unelectable' though that's just parroting something she heard.

 

[ONUV]

I don't think you can convert neocons into non-interventionists in one thanksgiving meal. on the other hand i don't think you can open a progressives eyes to the free market in one thanksgiving meal.