Tucson schools create race-based system of discipline

[bobbyw24]

Tucson schools create race-based system of discipline

The board is calling for a two-tiered form of student discipline. One for Black and Hispanic students; one for everyone else.

With the goal of creating a "restorative school culture and climate" that conveys a "sense of belonging to all students," the board is insisting that its schools reduce its suspensions and/or expulsions of minority students to the point that the data reflect "no ethnic/racial disparities."

From the section of the 52-page plan titled "Restorative School Culture and Climate," subhead, "Discipline":

"School data that show disparities in suspension/expulsion rates will be examined in detail for root causes. Special attention will be dedicated to data regarding African-American and Hispanic students."

The board approved creating an "Equity Team" that will oversee the plan to ensure "a commitment to social justice for all students."

The happy-face edu-speak notwithstanding, what the Tucson Unified School District board of governors has approved this summer is a race-based system of discipline.

Offenses by students will be judged, and penalties meted out, depending on the student's hue.

Certainly, from the point of view of a public-school administrator, such a policy is beyond insane.

TUSD principals and disciplinarians (assuming such creatures still exist) are being asked to set two standards of behavior for their students.

Some behavior will be met with strict penalties; some will not. It all depends on the color of the student's skin.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/2009/09/19/20090919maceachern0920.html

 

[Dr.3D]

Wow, it's a good thing they are not considering the content of character of those students when dishing out penalties.

They sure wouldn't want not to be called racist.

 

[erowe1]

How about they stop grouping students into classifications, such as "black" and "hispanic" at all. Then ethnic/racial disparities will disappear instantly because there will be no such groups recognized by the school system which could be compared to one another.

I'd like to know what objective method they think they have now to define who qualifies as "black" and "hispanic" anyway.

 

[Original_Intent]

What they should do is if they are reviewing a case for discipline they should not give the students name (because that can give away racial background) and they should not bring up race. The people reviewing the case should just be given the facts of what happened and they should make a decision of appropriate action WITH NO INFORMATION regarding the race of the student under discussion. Then there would be no question of racial bias.

Instead they are trying to manipulate outcomes to meet their desired ends - typical of our education system putting the cart in front of the horse. They don't care about true impartiality, they care about getting the results that they think they should get.

 

[zach]

Fuck this. Continue your "Us vs. Them" and you will students hating each other even more than they do now. Continue this, and you will teach them that we are not equal. Continue this, and we will never rise to end tyranny. Continue this, and we will never be collectively able to see past superficial issues.

 

[IPSecure]

I wonder how it would effect someone like this...

"I was born a poor black child"
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[bobbyw24]

Ron Paul: What Really Divides Us?

What Really Divides Us?

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Yet it is the federal government more than anything else that divides us along race, class, religion, and gender lines. The federal government, through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails in our society. This government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill between men by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. Americans know that factors other than merit in the free market often play a part in the success of some, and this leads to resentment and hostility between us.

Still, the left argues that stringent federal laws are needed to combat racism, always implying of course that southern states are full of bigoted rednecks who would oppress minorities if not for the watchful eye of Washington. They ignore, however, the incredible divisiveness created by their collectivist big-government policies.

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however well intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html

 

[SelfTaught]

So what does this mean?

It means that Tuscon is purposely setting up a racist school punishment system. A non-racist system would be one that holds everyone, regardless of skin color, to the same standard.

I wonder what this will look like. Will it be a black kid charged with murder gets two days suspension, white kid talks back to teacher gets expelled?

 

[Original_Intent]

I wonder what this will look like. Will it be a black kid charged with murder gets two days suspension, white kid talks back to teacher gets expelled?

It obviously won't reach that point, but it seems like it will certainly lead to some kids feeling they can do anything without repurcussion and others knowing that if they retaliate or initiate problems they will be held to a stricter standard. So I definitely think this leads to worse behavior for the "protected" students.

Nothing to do with race, it is human nature.

 

[Elwar]

 

[SelfTaught]

It obviously won't reach that point, but it seems like it will certainly lead to some kids feeling they can do anything without repurcussion and others knowing that if they retaliate or initiate problems they will be held to a stricter standard. So I definitely think this leads to worse behavior for the "protected" students.

Nothing to do with race, it is human nature.

Yeah, I was exaggerating. But this does have to do with race, because that is what the article stated. Racial groups will have their own system of punishment.

And what type of message does this send to all the little innocent white girls?

Sorry, exaggerating again.

 

[sevin]

This is fucking crazy!

All this will do is make white kids resent minorities and now even more of them will grow up to be racists.

I am so sick of seeing people who claim to be all about racial equality going out and making things worse.

 

[RM918]

I haven't read the article, but I can only wonder whether the white kids get the punishment and the black kids get off light. Because if it was the other way around, these teachers would be at the gallows on the evening news.

 

[specsaregood]

All this will do is make white kids resent minorities and now even more of them will grow up to be racists.

That isn't all it will do. It will also end up making the school even less of an educational atmosphere or even more dangerous. As they will be letting minority students get away with bad behavior that would have previously gotten them suspended/expelled. Either that or they will have to expell white students for P.D.A. or chewing gum. No other way for it to "even out".

It is obviously meant for statistical purposes.

 

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

I love Big Brother.

 

[catdd]

Sucks.

 

[Bruno]

How about they stop grouping students into classifications, such as "black" and "hispanic" at all. Then ethnic/racial disparities will disappear instantly because there will be no such groups recognized by the school system which could be compared to one another.

I'd like to know what objective method they think they have now to define who qualifies as "black" and "hispanic" anyway.

Stop making sense please, there will be none of that in the public school system.

 

[TGGRV]

This is nothing new.

White is the new black.
Tread all over us.

Maybe after a decade of oppression we can start a TV channel called WET (White Entertainment Television) and burn down some suburbs or something. Maybe us white folks will be able to get some government assistance, food stamps, some college loans, scholarships, community centers, political action groups, and a job just because we are oppressed white people. We can all move to the same neighborhoods and talk about the "white community" openly for once. This is gonna be awesome because after the decade of oppression we won't be called racist anymore if we have these things. It's just a waiting game.

The world will be ours once again, we just have to survive the war on the white people in the mean time.

I thought I'm the only one feeling that. It's a sucky time to be a White man. I'm glad I'm just White on this one.

This is fucking crazy!

All this will do is make white kids resent minorities and now even more of them will grow up to be racists.

I am so sick of seeing people who claim to be all about racial equality going out and making things worse.

I don't resent minorities. I resent them getting away with shit. If 40% of Black women would get raped by White people, it would be an outrage. In 2005, 40% or so of White women got raped by Black men. And Blacks are 6 times less than White people so the probability of a White woman getting raped by a Black than a White is a lot bigger. And the interracial rape/crime issue is created exactly by this mentality, it isn't because those men were Black. This ideology leads to horrible results.

Oh, and to those who wonder if White people are the ones getting away with the lighter punishments. Don't worry, it's not White people. It's like the affirmative action of getting away with shit in schools.

A Conversation About Race
I know I posted this before.

 

[specsaregood]

If 40% of Black women would get raped by White people, it would be an outrage. In 2005, 40% or so of White women got raped by Black men. And Blacks are 6 times less than White people so the probability of a White woman getting raped by a Black than a White is a lot bigger. And the interracial rape/crime issue is created exactly by this mentality, it isn't because those men were Black. This ideology leads to horrible results.

See obviously we just need to charge them with a lesser crime to bring those statistics into balance.

 

[erowe1]

In 2005, 40% or so of White women got raped by Black men.

That is an utterly ridiculous claim. In 2005 only a small fraction of 1% of all women got raped at all, by any man of any color.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/violent_crime/forcible_rape.html