Tucker Carlson & Truthers

[rajibo]

I hadn't heard about the weird lady on Howard Stern. I assure you real planes hit the WTC's and the truth movement does not think they were cartoons .

Paula Gloria was the lady. They always prank her public access show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zml0PI2XJTQ

 

[PatriotOne]

Seriously, the 9/11 Truth Movement is soiling Ron Paul's message and the Ron Paul Revolution. The truthers piggy-back on Ron Paul, as a means of getting "mainstream" legitimacy. It sickens me to know that they are only making things worse for everyone, and even pushing potential friends away, such as Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck.

Thanks for fucking ruining Ron Paul's image. No, of course it's not enough to hold your own forums and rallies. You have to attach yourself to a totally seperate cause. There's a difference between being a 9/11 truther who endorses Ron Paul's message and a 9/11 truther who wants to take advantage of Ron Paul. The latter make me sick.

Blah, blah, blah. Truthers don't take advantage of RP. Truthers have done more for RP than the rest of the people put together. Now go do something useful besides trying to get rid of RP's most productive supporters.

 

[constituent]

Blah, blah, blah. Truthers don't take advantage of RP. Truthers have done more for RP than the rest of the people put together. Now go do something useful besides trying to get rid of RP's most productive supporters.

blah blah blah...


Cebu City.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Ask a question that makes sense and perhaps you will get an answer.

His question made perfect sense. Truthers and white supremacists are similar in that they both hold views that are not "mainstream". You seem to want to claim that truthers have a right or duty to shout their inside job theories and slogans whenever, and wherever the mood strikes them. The question is, do you extend that same liberty to other fringey groups like white separatists? Are you prepared to welcome guys in KKK sheet outfits to a CFL rally? Can you comprehend how expression of those divergent views might alienate people who would otherwise support a movement for liberty?

I know speaking for myself, when I was at a Paul rally, and some fucktard started shouting "9/11 was an inside job", I couldn't decide whether to punch the asshole in the face, or just leave the area as quickly as possible. In the end I did neither, but the experience definitely tainted my perception of the rally, and of Paul's supporters.

In today's GOP party we see that the party leadership does not tolerate individuality and free expression during their political events. They escort people out of their rallys if they stray from the approved script. Some say this is evidence of the GOP's fascism. But others might recognize that the GOP's control of the image they present to the public is an important element of their political effectiveness.

Apparently, you care more about shouting stupid slogans than being politically effective, which is your right. But it's also selfish and shortsighted.

 

[PatriotOne]

His question made perfect sense. Truthers and white supremacists are similar in that they both hold views that are not "mainstream".

You seem to want to claim that truthers have a right or duty to shout their inside job theories and slogans whenever, and wherever the mood strikes them. The question is, do you extend that same liberty to other fringey groups like white separatists? Are you prepared to welcome guys in KKK sheet outfits to a CFL rally? Can you comprehend how expression of those divergent views might alienate people who would otherwise support a movement for liberty?

I know speaking for myself, when I was at a Paul rally, and some fucktard started shouting "9/11 was an inside job", I couldn't decide whether to punch the asshole in the face, or just leave the area as quickly as possible. In the end I did neither, but the experience definitely tainted my perception of the rally, and of Paul's supporters.

Apparently, you care more about shouting stupid slogans than being politically effective, which is your right. But it's also selfish and shortsighted.

9/11 being a false flag operation is not a "view"...it is a fact. Facts are not fringe...facts are facts. The White Supremists are ideological in their movement and therefore susceptible to being fringe or not in their "beliefs".

Now go do some homework on 9/11 instead of being a useful idiot Sean.

 

[SeanEdwards]

9/11 being a false flag operation is not a "view"...it is a fact. Facts are not fringe...facts are facts. The White Supremists are ideological in their movement and therefore susceptible to being fringe or not in their "beliefs".

Now go do some homework on 9/11 instead of being a useful idiot Sean.

And welcome to my ignore list, prick.

 

[PatriotOne]

And welcome to my ignore list, prick.

I'm fine with that. I just hope you use all your freed up time of not reading my posts to go educate yourself on 9/11 so you can become an educated patriot instead of pissing in the wind.

 

[MikeStanart]

his question made perfect sense. Truthers and white supremacists are similar in that they both hold views that are not "mainstream". You seem to want to claim that truthers have a right or duty to shout their inside job theories and slogans whenever, and wherever the mood strikes them. The question is, do you extend that same liberty to other fringey groups like white separatists? Are you prepared to welcome guys in kkk sheet outfits to a cfl rally? Can you comprehend how expression of those divergent views might alienate people who would otherwise support a movement for liberty?

I know speaking for myself, when i was at a paul rally, and some fucktard started shouting "9/11 was an inside job", i couldn't decide whether to punch the asshole in the face, or just leave the area as quickly as possible. In the end i did neither, but the experience definitely tainted my perception of the rally, and of paul's supporters.

In today's gop party we see that the party leadership does not tolerate individuality and free expression during their political events. They escort people out of their rallys if they stray from the approved script. Some say this is evidence of the gop's fascism. But others might recognize that the gop's control of the image they present to the public is an important element of their political effectiveness.

Apparently, you care more about shouting stupid slogans than being politically effective, which is your right. But it's also selfish and shortsighted.

+1776

 

[constituent]

I'm fine with that. I just hope you use all your freed up time of not reading my posts to go educate yourself on 9/11 so you can become an educated patriot instead of pissing in the wind.

add me to your ignore list and go read about Cebu City.

 

[V4Vendetta]

WTF is up with all these people's new pictures with Lizards? Are you all nuts or something?

 

[Charles Wilson]

Jesus....our Gov did the OKC bombing also. Go read some fucking books and quit being a useful idiot. Sorry Charlie, but I get so sick of the ignorance

You sound like the neocons and jackbooted thugs that committed the mass murders. No doubt you are one of those who attack anyone who questions the authoritarians and hold them accountable for their actions. For starters clean up your language potty mouth -- you impress no one.


Just for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

 

[PatriotOne]

add me to your ignore list and go read about Cebu City.

Here....make yourself useful and go learn something:

Fabled Enemies

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...6mHESKimBpi6qAODr_i4BQ&q=fabled+enemies&hl=en

 

[HaddEnuff]

His question made perfect sense. Truthers and white supremacists are similar in that they both hold views that are not "mainstream".

Abolishing the Fed is not "mainstream."
Abolishing the IRS is not "mainstream."
Returning to the gold standard is not "mainstream."
Do I need to go on?

Are you prepared to welcome guys in KKK sheet outfits to a CFL rally?

Absolutely not. We should not welcome anyone into the CFL that doesn't believe in the core values. They clearly don't.

I know speaking for myself, when I was at a Paul rally, and some fucktard started shouting "9/11 was an inside job", I couldn't decide whether to punch the asshole in the face, or just leave the area as quickly as possible. In the end I did neither, but the experience definitely tainted my perception of the rally, and of Paul's supporters.

So let me get this straight, you were willing to shift your entire allegiance to the CFL based on what one person said?

In today's GOP party we see that the party leadership does not tolerate individuality and free expression during their political events.

And that's the freedom and liberty you seek?

They escort people out of their rallys if they stray from the approved script.

You mean like the Ron Paul delegates they harassed?

Some say this is evidence of the GOP's fascism. But others might recognize that the GOP's control of the image they present to the public is an important element of their political effectiveness.

Germany employed a similar program back in the 40s.

 

[PatriotOne]

You sound like the neocons and jackbooted thugs that committed the mass murders. No doubt you are one of those who attack anyone who questions the authoritarians and hold them accountable for their actions. For starters clean up your language potty mouth -- you impress no one.


Just for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Yeah, well, suffering ignorance for so long makes a person a bit testy ocassionally. I love people who question authority. It's those who DON'T question them who I have no respect for.

Tossing me a Wikipedia link to learn about the OKC bombings is pretty laughable. Is Wikipedia your authority on history? LOL.

 

[Charles Wilson]

Just one problem with that. It is not the truth and by promoting that lie, people will just blame the error on "stupidity" of our Government and elect another NWO stooge like Obama/McCain not knowing the real motivation behind the false flag operation. Then another "false flag" operation can take place during the Obama or McCain admin to continue the war(s) because they will justify it yet again because the terrorists attacked us. The truth is the only thing that is going to bring the people back to their senses and what you said is NOT the truth.

In what way is my understanding of what took place on 9/11 untrue? Ron Paul's views on 9/11: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul406.html.

 

[Charles Wilson]

Yeah, well, suffering ignorance for so long makes a person a bit testy ocassionally. I love people who question authority. It's those who DON'T question them who I have no respect for.

Tossing me a Wikipedia link to learn about the OKC bombings is pretty laughable. Is Wikipedia your authority on history? LOL.

That was a quick reference. See if the following link agrees with my assessment of the facts: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul1.html.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Germany employed a similar program back in the 40s.

Godwin's law proved yet again.

 

[PatriotOne]

That was a quick reference. See if the following link agrees with my assessment of the facts: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul1.html.

That's about Waco not OKC bombings.

 

[constituent]

Here....make yourself useful and go learn something:

Fabled Enemies

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...6mHESKimBpi6qAODr_i4BQ&q=fabled+enemies&hl=en

you're still behind, and so is this film.

i'd make some quip, but you're not worth the effort.

 

[PatriotOne]

In what way is my understanding of what took place on 9/11 untrue? Ron Paul's views on 9/11: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul406.html.

Your (and RP's) basic premise that 9/11 was caused by blowback is incorrect. It was a false flag operation blamed on our CIA asset Bin Laden (aka Tim Osman). I don't argue that blowback doesn't happen, but it certainly was not what caused 9/11. Have you not been exposed to 9/11 truth before? I thought everyone on this board knew at least what our basic premise was by now