Tucker Carlson on Marijuana

[Superfluous Man]

Tucker proposes that they now support marijuana to pacify the ignorant masses

But his basis for saying they support marijuana is merely that they support legalizing it. He conflates the two things.

Does he himself support legalizing marijuana? Even his own words in this segment don't clearly say if he does or not, though at points they seem to imply he does. If he does support that, then does that mean that he himself also supports using it, along with all the ill effects that he thinks go along with that? Obviously not, given everything else he says. But for Booker and Harris, that is what it means.

He's trying to have it both ways.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

LOL, ya, you have some really misguided views on cannabis. That doesn't bother me a whole lot, because most people are learning the truth about it and some day you may come around.

The reason people put it into food and the reason people like it so much is because it treats hundreds of conditions in a safe and effective way. These are common conditions that most people experience at least one of. You can't overdose, it can't hurt you. If you take too much, it's just a matter of sleeping it off. There is no hangover, no toxicity, etc. It doesn't do any longterm damage. It doesn't kill brain cells, it helps regenerate them.

Most people who use it consider a health tonic.

It’s still putting a drug into food where someone can very easily mistakenly take it.

And as our biggest resident advocate of marijuana, you continue to deny the most common and well known adverse side effect of THC use, which is acute panic/anxiety attacks, which leads to so many emergency room trips. That is fact, no debate involved. We’ve gone circles on this issue, nothing new.

Whether or not it can lead to chronic problems or trigger other mental disorders in certain predisposed individuals is still an open scientific question.

Yes, marijuana can be therapeutic for some individuals for some conditions, especially CBDs, which don’t have the same adverse side effects as THC.

This guy gives his experience on initial effects, and long term effects...

 

[Brian4Liberty]

But his basis for saying they support marijuana is merely that they support legalizing it. He conflates the two things.

You’d have to ask them why they support it, and IIRC, Kamala was on some show saying that she smoked it and inferred her reasons for legalization is that she likes it.

Does he himself support legalizing marijuana? Even his own words in this segment don't clearly say if he does or not, though at points they seem to imply he does. If he does support that, then does that mean that he himself also supports using it, along with all the ill effects that he thinks go along with that? Obviously not, given everything else he says. But for Booker and Harris, that is what it means.

He's trying to have it both ways.

As far as I know, Tucker supports decriminalization, does not advocate it’s use.

 

[specsaregood]

And as our biggest resident advocate of marijuana, you continue to deny the most common and well known adverse side effect of THC use, which is acute panic/anxiety attacks, which leads to so many emergency room trips. That is fact, no debate involved. We’ve gone circles on this issue, nothing new.

Also the new wave of people suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome. which DW has had show up at her hospital a few times. Its a weird one.

A team of physicians in the country shared the experience they had with a handful of patients who experienced similar symptoms after smoking or ingesting marijuana-- the cure being a piping hot bath, and to cease smoking and ingesting the substance altogether. The term has made its way to the U.S. where a study was published by Colorado clinicians detailing how more than 2,500 cannabis-related ER visits were made at one hospital, just after the medical legalization of the drug in 2009.

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/illnes...rried-after-more-legalization-news.75684.html

 

[pcosmar]

Psychiatric drugs are terrible and ruining the people that are prescribed and addicted to them.

and they fund most Broadcast Media.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Also the new wave of people suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome. which DW has had show up at her hospital a few times. Its a weird one.

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/illnes...rried-after-more-legalization-news.75684.html

Interesting. Uncontrolled vomiting by long term users. Hadn’t heard about that one. Most of the emergency room trips are beginners who have the panic attacks and think they are dying.

 

[pcosmar]

Whether or not it can lead to chronic problems or trigger other mental disorders in certain predisposed individuals is still an open scientific question.

OH Yeah,, and the subject if Lucrative "Studies",,and the very Obvious "Political Abuse of Psychiatry".

I read one recently dealing with depression... and The "study" showed that it is caused by smoking pot as a kid/Teen.

I read the methodology. The suppositions and conclusion.

And it WILL Be used to influence Legislation.

It is Total Bunk... a mixture of the worst pseudoscience combined with Political abuse of science.

I know because I was dealing with Depression long before I ever heard of Pot...

And it is the very best medication I have found for it... (as you will hear from many)

I really think the scientific Community needs to discourage these useless and unscientific studies,, before they lose all credibility.

 

[pcosmar]

Interesting. Uncontrolled vomiting by long term users. Hadn’t heard about that one. Most of the emergency room trips are beginners who have the panic attacks and think they are dying.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome

cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS) is a “poorly-understood condition” that is believed to be caused by chronic cannabis use.

A newly created condition (2004),,

More likely caused by something in the edibles other than Cannabis.. but blame it anyway..

another Defined Condition that has absolutely no scientific evidence,,, but it's pot.

 

[specsaregood]

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome
A newly created condition (2004),,
More likely caused by something in the edibles other than Cannabis.. but blame it anyway..
another Defined Condition that has absolutely no scientific evidence,,, but it's pot.

At the same time, don't just choose to ignore a condition because you don't like the possibility that its real. FWIW, the first patient DW had that had it surprised her as she had never heard of it, and he had not ingested any edibles. He was just a multi-daily user that had been using it for years (smoking and vaping it) without any problems. Then one day, all of a sudden he couldn't use MJ any longer.

 

[Superfluous Man]

As far as I know, Tucker supports decriminalization, does not advocate it’s use.

That is what he says some of the time. At other times, such as in the two videos I linked to above, he condemns others for nothing more than supporting decriminalization.

That is the inconsistency I was referring to.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Really? Where?

Here, try using the search feature.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You raise a valid point, anti-swamp purism is getting bit out of hand lately.
Even MAGA himself is working closely with his top funder Sheldon 'US should drop nukes on Iran' Adelson who may be even worse than Soros.
MAGA is also working closely with Bibi 'Iraq war will be great' Netanyahu on Iran/mideast policy who may be even worse than Saddam Hussein on war crimes/human rights violations.
MAGA is working closely with Iraq war neocon Elliot Abrahm on Venez intervention project and with Jeffrey Epstein's 'sweet dealer' on other America-First cabinet projects.
MAGA used to work with and fund Hillary who may be worse than Obama.
Many more such examples.

Point is that pragmatism is the name of the game, sometimes you have to work with those in the swamp to get out of the swamp. Let's leave the idealism of 'drain the swamp' in the pre-election campaign days where it belong.

You can do both.

 

[dannno]

It’s still putting a drug into food where someone can very easily mistakenly take it.

Caffeine is in all kinds of drinks and even some foods. Unless I'm about to go climb a mountain, do some type of physically strenuous activity or go out and party, I can't stand caffeine. I'll bet more car accidents are caused by caffeinated drivers being caffeinated than by stoned drivers. I might have a small amount of caffeine if I'm driving late at night or something and don't want to fall asleep, but most people drink that shit all day.

People also mix alcohol into drinks. If it's strong you can usually tell, but if it's weaker you can't always tell.

There are all kinds of substances in regular foods and drinks that alter our moods and change our perceptions somewhat.

Cannabis happens to be one that is actually healthy.

 

[PAF]

Here, try using the search feature.

PAF comes up quite a bit.

Others also but not as of recent.

I don’t see SwordShill I mean Swordsmyth, however ;-)

 

[pcosmar]

At the same time, don't just choose to ignore a condition because you don't like the possibility that its real. FWIW, the first patient DW had that had it surprised her as she had never heard of it, and he had not ingested any edibles. He was just a multi-daily user that had been using it for years (smoking and vaping it) without any problems. Then one day, all of a sudden he couldn't use MJ any longer.

A new condition,,since 2004 (no doubt a "study")..

Now I have not been a "regular" user for years... Prison Parole and Poverty prevented it.
I have been a Regular,,Habitual,medicinal continuous user for the past few year,, finding myself in a Legal State.

"medically" is it admittedly rare. I would say the words "unheard of".

and the gastrointestinal distress is caused by something else they ingested,, that they are not even looking for because of Reefer Madness.

My step daughter was nearly killed by "doctors" in Michigan. an intestinal Blockage caused by scar tissue from a C-Section years before.
and they were pumping her full of Psyche Meds because it was all in her Head.

now,,considering that Cannabis is Non-Toxic. I have a serious logical problem with it being associated with Toxic Effects..
Especially with Mountains of evidence to the contrary...


Like the Psudosciene Depression study I mentioned.

They want to push SSRIs.

 

[Swordsmyth]

PAF comes up quite a bit.

Others also but not as of recent.

I don’t see SwordShill I mean Swordsmyth, however ;-)

Get your eyes checked:

[h=3]Alabama Senate Passes Bill To End Common Core[/h] Started by Swordsmyth, 03-25-2019

 

[dannno]

Interesting. Uncontrolled vomiting by long term users. Hadn’t heard about that one. Most of the emergency room trips are beginners who have the panic attacks and think they are dying.

Cannabis makes it difficult to lie to yourself. Mushrooms make it impossible. People who have panic attacks on herb or mushrooms are being dishonest with themselves about something, they are having a hard time facing reality, and so they go into panic mode. Facing reality is really the only way to overcome whatever difficulties they have been trying to ignore, and the panic attack is a natural way to deal with it. But they need to go through it, they need to face it. They don't need to go to the hospital.

These are precisely the type of reactions that help people move on in their life and become better people. Panic attacks are not a negative side effect of herb, it is a healing mechanism.

As far as cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, I agree with pcosmar that it is something else that is going on. I don't know anybody who has had it, or know anybody who knows anybody who has had it, and over the years that covers probably tens of thousands of people who toke regularly. Why wasn't it ever documented in the 70s, 80s or 90s? It seems to occur in specific locales at a higher rate than others. It sounds more like something that some growers are using as pesticide or something, that affects certain people.

 

[pcosmar]

It sounds more like something that some growers are using as pesticide or something, that affects certain people.

Any Pesticides or fertilizers used are generally on the labeling in Washington..

Private Labs that were already testing organic vegetables,, test Cannabis for content.

I would suspect a gastrointestinal response to edibles,,, or possibly an ingredient used.

Not to the cannabis,,, as a KNOWN* cure for Crones Disease ,and other intestinal ailments., Raw (unheated)cannabis eaten regularly .

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5193087/

*to some

 

[dannno]

Any Pesticides or fertilizers used are generally on the labeling in Washington..

Private Labs that were already testing organic vegetables,, test Cannabis for content.

I would suspect a gastrointestinal response to edibles,,, or possibly an ingredient used.

Not to the cannabis,,, as a KNOWN cure for Crones Disease ,and other intestinal ailments., Raw (unheated)cannabis eaten regularly .

If it were true I would also expect people to get the disease who have never used cannabis, since your body produces CBDs.

 

[specsaregood]

now,,considering that Cannabis is Non-Toxic. I have a serious logical problem with it being associated with Toxic Effects..

Or
lots of things are toxic only in very high doses. eg: nicotine is toxic in very high dosages
It could just be that in the race to make the most potent marijuana, some strains have reached a level where the dosage of THC or something else is so high that it is becoming toxic to some people. I