TSA agents whining and complaining about being bitched at:"we're just doing our job"

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TSA Enhanced Pat Downs : The Screeners Point Of View

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyin...hanced-pat-downs-the-screeners-point-of-view/

11.18.2010 | Author: flyingfish | Posted in Uncategorized

In the past few weeks since the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) implemented its new “enhanced” pat down procedures there has been considerable backlash from the traveling public. This backlash has been loud and angry … but what is not heard or seen in the media is the quiet resentment of this new policy within the TSA.

A few days ago I contacted 20 TSA Transportation Security Officers (TSO) to ask their opinions of the new “enhanced” pat downs. Of the 20 I reached out to, 17 responded. All 17 who responded are at airports where the new “enhanced” pat down is in place … and the responses were all the same, that front line TSOs do not like the new pat downs and that they do not want to perform them. I expected most to not like the pat downs … but what I didn’t expect was that all 17 mentioned their morale being broken down.

Each of the 17 TSA TSOs that responded to me detailed their personal discomfort in conducting the new pat downs, with more than one stating that it is likely they are more uncomfortable performing the pat down than passengers are receiving them.

Some comments from these TSOs include:

“It is not comfortable to come to work knowing full well that my hands will be feeling another man’s private parts, their butt, their inner thigh. Even worse is having to try and feel inside the flab rolls of obese passengers and we seem to get a lot of obese passengers!”

“Do you think I want to go to work and place my hands between women’s legs and touch their breasts for a few hours? For starters, I am attracted to men, not women and if I was attracted to women, it would not be the large number of passengers I handle daily that have a problem understanding what personal hygiene is.”

“Yesterday a passenger told me to keep my hands off his penis or he’d scream. Is this how a 40 year old man in business attire acts? He’ll scream? My 3 year old can get away with saying he’ll scream, but a 40 something business man? I am a professional doing my job, whether I agree with this current policy or not, I am doing my job. I do not want to be here all day touching penises.”

“Being a TSO means often being verbally abused, you let the comments roll off and check the next person, however when a woman refuses the scanner then comes to me and tells me that she feels like I am molesting her, that is beyond verbal abuse. I asked the woman if she thought I like touching other women all day and she told me that I probably did or I wouldn’t be with the TSA. I just want to tell these people that I feel disgusted feeling other peoples private parts, but I cannot because I am a professional.”

“I was asked by some guy if I got excited touching scrotums at the airport and if it gave me a power thrill. I felt like vomiting when he asked that. This is not a turn on for me to touch me it is in fact a huge turn off. There is a big difference between how I pat passengers down and a molester molesting people.”

Aside from the issue of TSA TSOs being required to physically touch passengers in places they do not want to be touching them during the ‘enhanced’ pat down, morale is decreasing for front line TSOs, due in part to an increase in verbal abuse. Each of the 17 TSOs who responded to me detailed a new level of verbal abuse they are experiencing at work.

The TSA has experienced a high level of turn over since its inception, however its turnover rate has decreased recently. With this decrease in morale, caused directly by a change in TSA policy, it is likely to begin experiencing a higher than average turn over again … which will further decrease the effectiveness of airport security.

Some comments from these 17 TSOs include:

“Molester, pervert, disgusting, an embarrassment, creep. These are all words I have heard today at work describing me, said in my presence as I patted passengers down. These comments are painful and demoralizing, one day is bad enough, but I have to come back tomorrow, the next day and the day after that to keep hearing these comments. If something doesn’t change in the next two weeks I don’t know how much longer I can withstand this taunting. I go home and I cry. I am serving my country, I should not have to go home and cry after a day of honorably serving my country.”

“I come to work to do my job. It is not up to me to decide policy, it is up to me to carry out my duties as dictated by the Transportation Security Administration. When a person stands in front of me and calls me a pervert or accuses me of molesting them it is disheartening. People fail to understand that neither of us are happy about the intrusive pat down I am carrying out. I am polite, I am professional and while someone may not like what I have to carry out, they came to me because they choose not to utilize the alternative and less invasive method of security at my airport.”

“I served a tour in Afghanistan followed by a tour in Iraq. I have been hardened by war and in the past week I am slowly being broken by the constant diatribe of hateful comments being lobbed at me. While many just see a uniform with gloves feeling them for concealed items I am a person, I am a person who has feelings. I am a person who has served this country. I am a person who wants to continue serving his country. The constant run of hateful comments while I perform my job will break me down faster and harder than anything I encountered while in combat in the Army.”

“Do people know what a Nazi is? One can’t describe me as a Nazi because I am following a security procedure of designed to find prohibited items on a passenger’s body. A Nazi is someone with hatred and ignorance in their hearts, a person who carried out actions of execution and extermination of those based on their religion, origins or sexual preferences. I work to make travel safer, even if I do not agree with the current security procedures. Further more, I am Jewish and a TSA Transportation Security Officer, an American Patriot and to call me a Nazi is an offense beyond all other offenses.”

There are multiple sides to every story, and I think the point of view of those on the front lines of the TSA, those required to carry on the policy and procedures created by the TSA, are an import part of this story. I think those organizing efforts to change the TSA’s policy should also consider the impact to the TSA TSOs.

Rather than dehumanize the TSA TSOs, work with them, understand their views and opinions and work together to change the current TSA policies.

Happy Flying!
 
This whole situation with the TSA is just sickening to EVERYBODY except the goons at the DHS. Get rid of the monstrosity and let the current employees find other work.
 
I hate that damn line, "I'm just doing my job." It is morally wrong, and illegal might i add, to do what is asked of them, and they deserve every comment that is thrown at them if they just mindlessly accept their role instead of thinking of what they are actually doing to other people. One even said that he is a person too with feelings, well i hate to break it to that guy and remind him that the people he is touching and fondling are people with feelings.
 
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Do people know what a Nazi is? One can’t describe me as a Nazi because I am following a security procedure of designed to find prohibited items on a passenger’s body. A Nazi is someone with hatred and ignorance in their hearts, a person who carried out actions of execution and extermination of those based on their religion, origins or sexual preferences. I work to make travel safer, even if I do not agree with the current security procedures. Further more, I am Jewish and a TSA Transportation Security Officer, an American Patriot and to call me a Nazi is an offense beyond all other offenses.”

How did the Nazi start?
 
I could deconstruct every one of those comments, but this one is the one that really made me spit nails:

“Do people know what a Nazi is? One can’t describe me as a Nazi because I am following a security procedure of designed to find prohibited items on a passenger’s body. A Nazi is someone with hatred and ignorance in their hearts, a person who carried out actions of execution and extermination of those based on their religion, origins or sexual preferences. I work to make travel safer, even if I do not agree with the current security procedures. Further more, I am Jewish and a TSA Transportation Security Officer, an American Patriot and to call me a Nazi is an offense beyond all other offenses.”

That right there is why we are only a few degrees of separation from concentration camps.

This person could not be more wrong.

What, do you think that every NAZI "officer" was a fire breathing, gibbering demon with fangs and baby guts in their teeth???

No, they were people JUST LIKE YOU, convinced by a lying, corrupt regime that you are somehow doing your "patriotic duty" by subjugating and trampling the rights of your fellow citizens for some higher purpose like "protecting the fatherland".

They were people just like you, holding mild mannered civil service jobs serving the state, who reacted, when caught and confronted by the atrocities carried out in their name, with genuine surprise, they honestly thought "they were just doing their jobs".
 
I could deconstruct every one of those comments, but this one is the one that really made me spit nails:



That right there is why we are only a few degrees of separation from concentration camps.

This person could not be more wrong.

What, do you think that every NAZI "officer" was a fire breathing, gibbering demon with fangs and baby guts in their teeth???

No, they were people JUST LIKE YOU, convinced by a lying, corrupt regime that you are somehow doing your "patriotic duty" by subjugating and trampling the rights of your fellow citizens for some higher purpose like "protecting the fatherland".

They were people just like you, holding mild mannered civil service jobs serving the state, who reacted, when caught and confronted by the atrocities carried out in their name, with genuine surprise, they honestly thought "they were just doing their jobs".


One of the comments from the site:

TSA agent: “Do people know what a Nazi is?”

German citizen in the early 1940s: “I’m not doing anything terrible. I’m just working at a train station where they’re loading passengers on these trains, bound for who knows where. I don’t hate them. I’m just doing my job. If I don’t do it, I could get in trouble. I have a family to feed. I’m serving my country.”

“I’m just following orders” is not a defense for being complicit in violating the rights of your fellow human beings.
 
TSA TSO Cry babyies.

Than quit the job if you don't want to be verbally abused, while sexually touching people than.
 
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One of the comments from the site:


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TSA agent: “Do people know what a Nazi is?”

German citizen in the early 1940s: “I’m not doing anything terrible. I’m just working at a train station where they’re loading passengers on these trains, bound for who knows where. I don’t hate them. I’m just doing my job. If I don’t do it, I could get in trouble. I have a family to feed. I’m serving my country.”

“I’m just following orders” is not a defense for being complicit in violating the rights of your fellow human beings.

And that was not me.

Thank God there are some sane people left.
 
Government stages 9/11 attacks.

Government blames it on mythical "suicide hijackers".

Government instututes TSA to thwart future "suicide hijackers."

Government stages "underwear bomber" incident.

Government institutes porno scanners to thwart future "underwear bombers."



........This is so fucked up...it's surreal. Orwell himself couldnt make such shit up.
 
I could deconstruct every one of those comments, but this one is the one that really made me spit nails:



That right there is why we are only a few degrees of separation from concentration camps.

This person could not be more wrong.

What, do you think that every NAZI "officer" was a fire breathing, gibbering demon with fangs and baby guts in their teeth???

No, they were people JUST LIKE YOU, convinced by a lying, corrupt regime that you are somehow doing your "patriotic duty" by subjugating and trampling the rights of your fellow citizens for some higher purpose like "protecting the fatherland".

They were people just like you, holding mild mannered civil service jobs serving the state, who reacted, when caught and confronted by the atrocities carried out in their name, with genuine surprise, they honestly thought "they were just doing their jobs".
QFT! I was thinking almost the exact same thing as I read the OP.
 
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Government stages 9/11 attacks.

Government blames it on mythical "suicide hijackers".

Government instututes TSA to thwart future "suicide hijackers."

Government stages "underwear bomber" incident.

Government institutes porno scanners to thwart future "underwear bombers."



........This is so fucked up...it's surreal. Orwell himself couldnt make such shit up.

It was practically prophesized in Zamyatin's novel "We". It is about a totalitarian Surveilance State In which all people live in transparent housing so they can be watched 24/7 by the Guardians. Citizens of the One State even had to obtain special coupons in order to visit another citizen's apartment, close the blinds, and have sex. With spy technology becoming ever smaller and pervasive, Amerika could become a total Surveilance State like that. :eek::cool:
 
And that was not me.

Thank God there are some sane people left.

Directed at the Author:

You need to review the difference between “analogy” and “equivalence.” An analogy shows a common pattern or characteristic shared between two things, intended in rhetoric to illustrate a deeper principle or further an argument. An equivalence is used to suggest that something is fundamentally like something else in all relevant respects. So if someone says “TSOs are Nazi stormtroopers” or “TSOs are just like the SS” then you have a valid objection to the Nazi comparison.

If, however, the TSOs say, “I’m just following orders,” while doing something wrong, and people rightly point out that we didn’t accept that argument out of actual Nazis who strip searched people and confiscated their belongings in support of an illegal and immoral policy, then while people aren’t saying TSOs should be hung at Nuremberg because they’ve killed people, they are saying that they are excusing actions in support of an unconstitutional, immoral, and useless policy with the same argument we didn’t accept in 1945/46.

So if you’re prepared to accept that argument now, you’re prepared to say that “just following orders” is an OK excuse so long as you didn’t actually kill people. And that means that any actual Nazis who didn’t kill people were wrongly convicted, and you’re against that.

If you can’t stand that conclusion, then you have to say why that principle doesn’t apply here, and come up with some justification that following illegal and immoral orders is OK when the result isn’t death for the person whose rights are violated.

I can’t come up with that justification, which is why I have no sympathy for police who get civil rights lawsuits for violating the rights of people even though they weren’t seeking to kill them. And similarly, while I don’t want to abuse the TSOs, I also don’t want them to think I approve of their actions and will let them know it. And if they say they were just following orders, I’ll remind them that we didn’t accept that excuse out of Nazis, don’t accept that excuse out of people working for Bernie Madoff, and I don’t accept that excuse out of them.
 
What, do you think that every NAZI "officer" was a fire breathing, gibbering demon with fangs and baby guts in their teeth???

No, they were people JUST LIKE YOU, convinced by a lying, corrupt regime that you are somehow doing your "patriotic duty" by subjugating and trampling the rights of your fellow citizens for some higher purpose like "protecting the fatherland".

They were people just like you, holding mild mannered civil service jobs serving the state, who reacted, when caught and confronted by the atrocities carried out in their name, with genuine surprise, they honestly thought "they were just doing their jobs".

Indeed, that they were "just following orders" or "just doing their job" was the Nuremberg excuse, and it didn't work then. What we gain from this is that we can use the knowledge of this excuse to poke holes in the argument for more security theatre, as we know to what end this excuse can be used.
 
And that was not me.

Thank God there are some sane people left.


Fortunately, there are still a few people around who remember that "I was just following orders" didn't fly too well as a defense at the Nuremberg trials after the war....
 
That quit the job if you don't want to be verbally abused, while sexually touching people than.

I guess the job angel will take care of that one. I'm sure they will have no problem finding another job competing with 14 million other unemployed Americans to see who gets to scrub shit off walls. Take a look around. The society is in the process of collapse.
 
"I just want to tell these people that I feel disgusted feeling other peoples private parts, but I cannot because I am a professional."

Now follow me here folks, I know the below quote is a long one....

psywww.com said:
The defense mechanism called intellectualization occurs when a person adopts a cool, scientific attitude toward something that threatens to cause emotional upset.

A friend of mine who taught gross anatomy at a medical school let me visit the classroom where he taught. Each first-year medical student had a cadaver to work on, so the room looked like a morgue. But (he explained) the students quickly learned to regard the bodies as nothing but laboratory material for dissection. Whether or not they realized it, this professional attitude probably helped them combat feelings of dread and fear

http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch11_personality/defense_mechanisms.html

So to be a professional, TSA jagoff is to be professionally trained to LIE to oneself about the wrongfulness of their behavior by adopting a defense mechanism whereby they deny their true feelings and project a cold & clinical exterior. By god, they are training these people to be psychopaths.
 
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"I just want to tell these people that I feel disgusted feeling other peoples private parts, but I cannot because I am a professional."

Now follow me here folks, I know the below quote is a long one....


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Originally Posted by psywww.com
The defense mechanism called intellectualization occurs when a person adopts a cool, scientific attitude toward something that threatens to cause emotional upset.

A friend of mine who taught gross anatomy at a medical school let me visit the classroom where he taught. Each first-year medical student had a cadaver to work on, so the room looked like a morgue. But (he explained) the students quickly learned to regard the bodies as nothing but laboratory material for dissection. Whether or not they realized it, this professional attitude probably helped them combat feelings of dread and fear

http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch1...echanisms.html

So to be a professional, TSA jagoff is to be professionally trained to LIE to oneself about the wrongfulness of their behavior. By god, they are training these people to be psychopaths..

Fantastic point.

Adopt a "professional demeanor" and you can commit any atrocity.
 
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