Trump’s getting trounced in Indiana

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump was never ever going to win a 2nd vote with these establishment scumbags without literally handing them bags of cash at some point. These aren't Cruz delegates, which is proven by the fact Kasich has virtually none. These are just people wiling to push this to a 2nd and 3rd vote.

All this bragging from Cruz & establishment types will help trump in the medium term once it is impossible for Cruz to get to 1237. The slimy lawyer fumbles everything, NY values, writing a NAFTA oped with Paul Ryan, running anti trade ads in Wisconsin copying Trump on everything. He's totally going to fumble an explanation to Republican primary voters post-NY how he is definitely going to beat Trump and not enable a trojan horse at the convention.

RE Cruz has almost nill chance to go anywhere as much as establishment may try.There is too much anger among GOP base towards current SWC for even neocons moneybaggers to buy everyone.

Trump: Clinton, Obama 'created ISIS'

 

[CPUd]

 

[Petar]

The establishment is in the process of destroying the GOP by sidelining Trump (in order to get Hillary elected), and the "Liberty movement" is too busy helping them to be able to take advantage of the epoch-scale backlash that is going to occur.

 

[Petar]

Trump is the only one that can beat her, and you are too busy helping the establishment to notice...

 

[klamath]

Makes a person wonder....

 

[juleswin]

And you can then remind yourself that you actually helped Hillary get elected. Enjoy.

Yup, you right, I would help Hillary/Trump get elected POTUS

false choice. Opposition to one candidate does not imply support for another.

Actually, she is right. See, I have been trying unsuccessfully for months now to convince them that Trump is a Clinton agent and nominating Trump as the GOP candidate would lead to Hillary being president. So I would be voting for Hillary or Vermin Supreme or Sander or the Devil himself against Trump just to make sure Trump loses.

Then you might say that I support Hillary but I would counter by saying that supporting Trump is in essence supporting Hillary. Who I vote for between those two makes little difference at the end of the day. Both are just going to be sightly more horrible than Obama, they would support a few extra wars as usual and most importantly they both would expand govt and restrict freedom.

But with Hillary defeating Trump, the Trumpsters would fail in their attempt to undermine the liberty movement and I get to gloat the same way they did when Rand dropped out. Also hopefully, after he loses, I would be able to listen to Tom Woods, Chris Cantwell and Stefan Molyenux channels again without all the pro Trump BS. Scratch the last one, I don't think there is anything he can do from now on for me to listen to his shit.

 

[juleswin]

RE Cruz has almost nill chance to go anywhere as much as establishment may try.There is too much anger among GOP base towards current SWC for even neocons moneybaggers to buy everyone.

Jesus H Christ, why the hell is the gif of Obama dancing in that post? It has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said. Its the sort of useless data that make it difficult for me to open up threads while I am on my phone.

 

[CPUd]

Trump is the only one that can beat her, and you are too busy helping the establishment to notice...

false choice. Opposition to one candidate does not imply allegiance with other organization/s who also oppose the candidate.

 

[klamath]

A real "liberty movement" doesn't try and elect a authoritarian or they are no liberty movement at all. It isn't about red team against blue team.

 

[RandallFan]

Rand & Cruz should come out and say they will hold President Trump to account.

 

[juleswin]

Rand & Cruz should come out and say they will hold President Trump to account.

So if you are anti war (unlike Trump), then you should vote for Cruz right?

 

[Petar]

false choice. Opposition to one candidate does not imply allegiance with other organization/s who also oppose the candidate.

Except that you are effectively on the side of the establishment that is sidelining Trump in order to throw the election to Hillary.

 

[jclay2]

To all anti-trump supporters laughing their heads off at the thought of Trump being swindled via delegates at the convention:

I seriously don't understand it. Out of all the candidates that are running (Clinton, Sanders,Cruz,Trump, Kasich), you choose Trump to demonize? What is it about Trump that makes him the worst out of all the candidates? He is the sworn enemy of the republican establishment. Why would you celebrate in his demise? In 2012, Ron Paul did not represent the overwhelming opinion of the voters. Trump represents a plurality of the voters and this should be respected. Why even bother with voting if the party ultimately chooses the candidate even if it is against the will of the people? Let's just skip the thing entirely and let the presidents be directly elected at a Bilderberg Conference? I suppose you think its great that the same thing is happening to Sanders?

 

[klamath]

To all anti-trump supporters laughing their heads off at the thought of Trump being swindled via delegates at the convention:

I seriously don't understand it. Out of all the candidates that are running (Clinton, Sanders,Cruz,Trump, Kasich), you choose Trump to demonize? What is it about Trump that makes him the worst out of all the candidates? He is the sworn enemy of the republican establishment. Why would you celebrate in his demise? In 2012, Ron Paul did not represent the overwhelming opinion of the voters. Trump represents a plurality of the voters and this should be respected. Why even bother with voting if the party ultimately chooses the candidate even if it is against the will of the people? Let's just skip the thing entirely and let the presidents be directly elected at a Bilderberg Conference? I suppose you think its great that the same thing is happening to Sanders?

Because for the most part supporters of those other candidates aren't trying to shove a Trojan horse down the throat of the 75% of the members and management that wants nothing to do with supporting trump.

 

[LibertyEagle]

But with Hillary defeating Trump, the Trumpsters would fail in their attempt to undermine the liberty movement and I get to gloat the same way they did when Rand dropped out. Also hopefully, after he loses, I would be able to listen to Tom Woods, Chris Cantwell and Stefan Molyenux channels again without all the pro Trump BS. Scratch the last one, I don't think there is anything he can do from now on for me to listen to his $#@!.

No one was undermining the liberty movement. In case you didn't notice, Rand quit. I'm not sure how you square helping Hillary with helping the liberty movement. But, hey, when she gets elected, you can look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you helped.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Because for the most part supporters of those other candidates aren't trying to shove a Trojan horse down the throat of the 75% of the members and management that wants nothing to do with supporting trump.

Then perhaps you should tell your buddies to stop starting so many threads about Trump. Because 90% of the discussion on here is coming from them.

 

[CPUd]

Except that you are effectively on the side of the establishment that is sidelining Trump in order to throw the election to Hillary.

false premise.

 

[CPUd]

No one was undermining the liberty movement. In case you didn't notice, Rand quit. I'm not sure how you square helping Hillary with helping the liberty movement. But, hey, when she gets elected, you can look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you helped.

false premise. Opposing trump does not necessarily imply helping another candidate get elected.

 

[hells_unicorn]

false premise. Opposing trump does not necessarily imply helping another candidate get elected.

Not necessarily, but in your case and a few others on here it's a valid premise. The problem here is that you've stated that you've supported Hillary before, so people are well within their right to speculate about your motives, and those of others who have made hyperbolic statements along similar lines. You will just need to learn to take it, end of story.

I'm not supporting anybody, and you'll note that I'm not starting dozens of threads talking about one particular individual that I'm not supporting.

 

[openfire]

false premise. Opposing trump does not necessarily imply helping another candidate get elected.

Assuming that Trump is allowed the nomination and that in every practical sense he is the only obstacle to Hillary winning, then how does opposing him not help her get elected?