Trump Voters are Waking Up to Reality, and it Isn’t Pretty

kahless said:
It shows your continued pattern to give aid and comfort to people that attack us. Here is a guy that has over the top trashed Paul supporters and the Pauls for years. That is the author YOU chose to give exposure to in a Ron Paul forum.
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Still cannot refute Trump's failure to consolidate support like Romney and McCain did in their primaries. Attack the messenger!
 
CPUd said:
Still cannot refute Trump's failure to consolidate support like Romney and McCain did in their primaries. Attack the messenger!
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Establishment hack at Redstate claims anti-establishment candidate does not have support of his establishment heroes, so what is else new? That is rather irrelevant to the replies I made to you in this thread. What is relevant is you continuing to troll and spam the 2016 Candidates Forum, now going so far as to post an article from the leading anti-Paul author on the net. He trashes Paul supporters the same as he does Trump supporters in this article.

The fact that you posting articles from someone that disparages Paul supporters and you refuse to break the embed again proves you are no fan or supporter of the Pauls, but rather here to continue your pattern of trolling these forums.
 
kahless said:
Establishment hack at Redstate claims anti-establishment candidate does not have support of his establishment heroes, so what is else new? That is rather irrelevant to the replies I made to you in this thread. What is relevant is you continuing to troll and spam the 2016 Candidates Forum, now going so far as to post an article from the leading anti-Paul author on the net. He trashes Paul supporters the same as he does Trump supporters in this article.

The fact that you posting articles from someone that disparages Paul supporters and you refuse to break the embed again proves you are no fan or supporter of the Pauls, but rather here to continue your pattern of trolling these forums.
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You are the only one who has posted anti-Paul propaganda in this thread, in an attempt to derail it.
 
I suspect the number one reason for Trump's popularity with GOP base has more to do with their disike for below reality than anything that relates to Trump directly.

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As long as this reality is in their view, nothing else is likely to temper their support for the most vocal critic of this reality.
 
The fact that you are posting articles from someone that disparages Paul supporters Trump supporters and you refuse to break the embed again proves you are no fan or supporter of the Pauls The Donald, but rather here to continue your pattern of trolling these forums. Trump supporters

FTFY
 
erowe1 said:
You could also vote, or not vote, according to principles and policies, which, if you did, you wouldn't support Trump.
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It's becoming such that my hatred for the GOP establishment has trumped (no pun intended) my desire to vote on principles and policies. Perhaps I'm blinded by my thirst for vengeance and things will become less blurry as the convention grows nearer. Maybe I'm still drunk from last night.

As it stands, I'm holding a gas can in each hand and Trump is the lighter.

I don't really like the GOP so if Trump ruins the GOP, it's no loss.

I'm growing more resentful of the mainstream American voting populace, so if he gets into office and takes a big Trump dump on them, it's no loss.

And if Trump wins and wrecks the country but the Establishment runs away crying, . . . that's breaking even so I'll take it.

I'm really not seeing the negatives. Make no mistake, Trump is a beast that I cannot control (and would not even pretend to), but my curiosity will likely get the better of me. I. want. to. open. the. cage. and. see. what. happens.

There will be plenty of opportunity to vote principle in the future, but I'm starting to see Trump as a golden opportunity to burn the establishment out of their snake holes.

Of course, there is still a chance the establishment may all rally around Trump should he win the nomination. If that happens you can rest assured he won't get my vote. But if they decide to try to throw the election due to sour grapes over Trump being the nominee, then it will signal to me that they actually viewed Trump as a threat and therefore he'll get my vote in the general. Policies won't matter to me as much as grinding my axes and settling old debts, honestly.

In the Trump vs. Hillary contest, I have no interest. Democrats are benched-player in this game, as I see it. But I'm very interested in how the fight between Trump and the GOP establishment unfolds. That is the prizefight. My goal this election is to see the establishment fail regardless of whatever angle they take. I see that as a more achievable goal than any plan to change the broader direction the country is heading in.

In fact, I actually like Cruz more than Trump (which isn't saying much) but I'm looking over Cruz's shoulder at who is backing him and I'm not liking what I see. If I have to knock Ted over to get in a few punches on the likes of McCain or Graham or Bill Kristol, so be it. Ted should have ducked.

If the devil himself drew scorn from the GOP establishment, I'd pack my bags go to Hell. Hate is not a strong enough word.
 
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erowe1 said:
The Ron Paul Forums have been destroyed by those who propound the opinions of Ron Paul?
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Like how those who have run around here repeatedly claiming that RP agrees with their beliefs that there should be no limits on the illegal alien overrun of our borders? Which is about as far away from Ron Paul's beliefs as one can get.

Is it possible that it's those who troll this website in support of Trump who have really done the damage?
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Nope. But, if you are looking to blame someone for all the discussion of Trump on these forums, you need look no further than yourself and your compadres who have posted more about Trump than anyone here who supports him.

erowe1 said:
You could also vote, or not vote, according to principles and policies, which, if you did, you wouldn't support Trump.
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My interest is the survival of my country. Because contrary to what some believe here, if it falls, what little liberty we have left will be gone too. This is why I am supporting Trump.
 
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nobody's_hero said:
It's becoming such that my hatred for the GOP establishment has trumped (no pun intended) my desire to vote on principles and policies.

[snip a bunch of thoughtful insight]
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Well said. And I believe this explains the Trump phenomenon better than anything else - Trump supporters don't care what his policy positions are - they have a gas can in each hand, and Trump is the lighter*

Do me one favor if you would, please. If you haven't watched them already, please take a look here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?493580-Interesting-man-Roger-Stone-edit

And tell me what you think. PM if you prefer.


*©nobody's_hero
 
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nobody's_hero said:
It's becoming such that my hatred for the GOP establishment has trumped (no pun intended) my desire to vote on principles and policies. Perhaps I'm blinded by my thirst for vengeance and things will become less blurry as the convention grows nearer. Maybe I'm still drunk from last night.
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As it stands, I'm holding a gas can in each hand and Trump is the lighter.
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That is a far more rational position than the OP and some in this thread that are financially assisting an author (with advertising page views) that has by far more than anyone else trashes Ron Paul supporters and the Pauls.

I think this behavior truly exposes what has happened to this forum by the small cabal that are in fact not Paul supporters but rather have infiltrated the forum and remain without consequence.
 
nobody's_hero said:
It's becoming such that my hatred for the GOP establishment has trumped (no pun intended) my desire to vote on principles and policies. Perhaps I'm blinded by my thirst for vengeance and things will become less blurry as the convention grows nearer. Maybe I'm still drunk from last night.
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Then I'm not sure you really understood those principles in the first place.
 
The USA needs anger management. Can we be passionate about liberty instead of angry about Republicans?
 
kahless said:
...I think this behavior truly exposes what has happened to this forum by the small cabal that are in fact not Paul supporters but rather have infiltrated the forum and remain without consequence.
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irony much?
 
LibertyEagle said:
My interest is the survival of my country. Because contrary to what some believe here, if it falls, what little liberty we have left will be gone too. This is why I am supporting Trump.
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This. The entire concept of liberty dies with western civilization. China certainly doesn't believe in it, nor does India or Latin American countries.

The preservation of America is essential to the survival of liberty. We become New Brazil and liberty truly, and eternally, dies.
 
francisco said:
irony much?
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I have supported Ron 2008/2012/and Rand for Senate/2016 Presidential bid. He is no longer in the race and additionally I never definitively said who I was supporting afterwards. The only irony here is some forum members giving a pass to an author that trashes the very people that post here when they did not in the past.
 
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Zippyjuan said:
Romney was polling slightly worse than Trump at this point in the race. He won because his opposition quit at this time too. Cruz won't be dropping out. On April 7th Romney had 38% and Santorum 28%. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep.../republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Trump is currently at 40%.
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The point is he is not taking support from his opponents like Mitt did to Santorum and McCain did to Guiliani. And when other candidates drop out, he is taking only the smallest share of that support. If you want to dig deeper into predictors for this polling behavior, look at 2nd choice numbers. Going all the way back to last summer, Trump's 2nd choice numbers are extremely weak (like in the teens when his 1st choice numbers were in the 30's).
 
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