Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops"

[Stratovarious]

not enforcing our laws <> Facilitating

when your arguments are that sophomoric - you should really reconsider your position

WUT?

This isn't even 1d chess.

 

[Zippyjuan]

not enforcing our laws <> Facilitating

when your arguments are that sophomoric - you should really reconsider your position

He only uses catch phrases- not real arguments. And never ask him for facts to back anything up. You won't get anything.

 

[Stratovarious]

Lots of Mexicans will pay for it too effectively since they live here.

So will the Taliban....

: )

 

[Swordsmyth]

not enforcing our laws <> Facilitating

when your arguments are that sophomoric - you should really reconsider your position

They don't enforce their own laws because the invaders are headed to the US and they give them aid in getting here, that is facilitating the invasion.

Your arguments are sophomoric.

 

[Stratovarious]

He only uses catch phrases- not real arguments. And never ask him for facts to back anything up. You won't get anything.

Beautiful statement,

Now tell us why open borders should work in America while is works nowhere else in the World.

 

[ARealConservative]

They don't enforce their own laws because the invaders are headed to the US and they give them aid in getting here, that is facilitating the invasion.

can you prove the Mexican government is giving them aid to get here or is that hyperbole?

Your arguments are sophomoric

prove it in the above question please.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Beautiful statement,

Now tell us why open borders should work in America while is works nowhere else in the World.

Borders are not open. Are you suggesting we open them?

 

[Swordsmyth]

can you prove the Mexican government is giving them aid to get here or is that hyperbole?

Yes, they have been providing the caravans with police escorts and they have done more than that.

[h=2]A Mexican Manual for Illegal Migrants Upsets Some in U.S.[/h]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...ome-in-us.html

MEXICO CITY, Jan. 5 - The Mexican government drew fire from American advocates of tighter borders on Wednesday for publishing a pamphlet that instructs migrants how to safely enter the United States illegally and live there without being detected.

Officials here say the small booklet, illustrated in comic-book style, is not intended to encourage illegal immigration, but to reduce the loss of life. Last year, more than 300 migrants died while crossing rivers and deserts to reach the United States.

The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest.

But groups favoring stricter immigration controls said the pamphlet amounted to a how-to manual for illegal immigrants. The booklet gives advice on what clothes to wear when fording a river and how to cross a desert without getting dehydrated



Guide for the Mexican Migrant http://www.amren.com/archives/report...xican-migrant/

PDF - https://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislat...an-booklet.pdf​

Grupos Beta
Grupos Beta is a service by the National Institute of Migration of Mexico offering water, medical aid, and information to immigrants at risk. The first Grupos Beta was started in Beta Tijuana in 1990.Wikipedia

And that is just some of it.

prove it in the above question please.

Originally Posted by ARealConservative
not enforcing our laws <> Facilitating

when your arguments are that sophomoric - you should really reconsider your position

When you claim that I say that mexico not enforcing our laws is facilitating that is sophomoric because that isn't what I said.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Borders are not open. Are you suggesting we open them?

Millions of invaders are already here and millions more pour in constantly, that's open.

 

[Swordsmyth]

can you prove the Mexican government is giving them aid to get here or is that hyperbole?

Aside from what I put in the first reply it is also facilitating the invasion to deliberately not enforce their own laws because they know the invaders are headed for the US and aren't going to stay in Mexico.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yes, they have been providing the caravans with police escorts and they have done more than that.

[h=2]A Mexican Manual for Illegal Migrants Upsets Some in U.S.[/h]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...ome-in-us.html

MEXICO CITY, Jan. 5 - The Mexican government drew fire from American advocates of tighter borders on Wednesday for publishing a pamphlet that instructs migrants how to safely enter the United States illegally and live there without being detected.

Officials here say the small booklet, illustrated in comic-book style, is not intended to encourage illegal immigration, but to reduce the loss of life. Last year, more than 300 migrants died while crossing rivers and deserts to reach the United States.

The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest.

But groups favoring stricter immigration controls said the pamphlet amounted to a how-to manual for illegal immigrants. The booklet gives advice on what clothes to wear when fording a river and how to cross a desert without getting dehydrated



Guide for the Mexican Migrant http://www.amren.com/archives/report...xican-migrant/

PDF - https://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislat...an-booklet.pdf​

Grupos Beta
Grupos Beta is a service by the National Institute of Migration of Mexico offering water, medical aid, and information to immigrants at risk. The first Grupos Beta was started in Beta Tijuana in 1990.Wikipedia

And that is just some of it.


When you claim that I say that mexico not enforcing our laws is facilitating that is sophomoric because that isn't what I said.

That is from fourteen years ago (2005). There are an estimated one million FEWER illegal immigrants in the US since 2007 recession hit.

 

[Zippyjuan]

But let's support making government bigger to protect us.

https://reason.com/2018/11/29/illegal-immigrants-are-at-a-10-year-low/

Illegal Immigrants Are at a 10-Year Low, So Can We Chill for a Minute?

"The decline is due almost entirely to a sharp decrease in the number of Mexicans entering the country without authorization."

A funny thing happened on the way to stringing razor wire, splitting up families, and sending the military to police the United States' border with Mexico: The number of illegal immigrants—especially from Mexico—in America continued its decade-long decline. Via Pew Research:

The number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. fell to its lowest level in more than a decade, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on 2016 government data. The decline is due almost entirely to a sharp decrease in the number of Mexicans entering the country without authorization.

Note that we reached peak illegals (and peak illegal Mexicans) back in 2006 or 2007, right around the time the housing bubble popped and what eventually become the financial crisis started kicking into high (low?) gear. Between 2007 and 2016, the number of unauthorized Mexican immigrants declined from about 6.9 million people to 5.5 million people. These days, illegals are most likely to come from Asia (especially China and India) and to enter the country with legal documents, such as a tourist, student, or work visa and then overstay. Deportations peaked in 2013, when Barack Obama was running the show.

Why has illegal immigration from Mexico declined? According to Pew's Jeffrey Passel and D'Vera Cohn, illegals missed their families. One also presumes that the sluggish U.S. economy presented fewer opportunities.

According to Mexican government survey data [from 2009 to 2014], most returnees said they left the U.S. of their own accord, and the majority cited family reunification as the main reason for going to Mexico. However, 14% said they came back because they were deported.


Pew Research
At the same time, the number of illegals from Central America (chiefly Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala) has increased over the past decade, from 1.5 million people to about 1.85 million.

Why might more Central Americans' be heading north? Mostly because those countries have gotten poorer over time, often due to U.S. intervention. Reason's Shikha Dalmia explains, in the 1980s,

President Ronald Reagan, eager for a showdown with the [Soviet Union, funded]…the Contra insurgency against the Nicaraguan Sandinistas and paramilitary operations to prop up the U.S.-friendly regimes of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala.

The upshot was civil war and a complete social breakdown from which these countries have never recovered.

As Princeton's Doug Massey noted at a recent immigration conference (that I co-organized on behalf of Reason Foundation), in the 1960s, the GDP of these "frontline countries" was equivalent to those of "non-frontline states" such as Costa Rica, Belize, and Panama. Now the latter cohort's GDP is almost three times greater. Likewise, while the homicide rate of non-frontline states is 19.7 per 100,000, it is 43.5 per 100,000 for the frontline states. San Pedro Sula, the Honduran city where the caravan started, has become the murder capital of the world.

Prior to Reagan's intervention, migration from Central America was negligible.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That is from fourteen years ago (2005). There are an estimated one million FEWER illegal immigrants in the US since 2007 recession hit.

They haven't stopped facilitating the invaders and there are admitted to be over 20 Million already here with the flood of invaders accelerating.

 

[Zippyjuan]

They haven't stopped facilitating the invaders and there are admitted to be over 20 Million already here with the flood of invaders accelerating.

Cliches are flying fast today. It is like talking to a bot.

 

[Swordsmyth]

But let's support making government bigger to protect us.

https://reason.com/2018/11/29/illegal-immigrants-are-at-a-10-year-low/

Liberal propaganda from before the flood was accelerated.

20+ million is too many, it's long past time to stop the flow and throw them out before they finish turning the entire country into a single party communist state like Kalifornia.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Cliches are flying fast today. It is like talking to a bot.

LOL

I accept your surrender.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Liberal propaganda from before the flood was accelerated.

20+ million is too many, it's long past time to stop the flow and throw them out before they finish turning the entire country into a single party communist state like Kalifornia.

You used that one already today. No originality. "Select your key words or phrases and use them often for maximum effect."

 

[Swordsmyth]

You used that one already today. No originality.

Lies need to be original, the truth doesn't.

 

[Stratovarious]

Borders are not open. Are you suggesting we open them?

LMAO ,,



You're not, you don't ? wtf zippy ?7777

 

[Swordsmyth]

BREAKING: After Trump threatens tariffs, Mexico's President Lopez Obrador asks Trump to have U.S. officials meet with the Mexican foreign minister in Washington on Friday to seek a solution that benefits both nations – Reuters
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) May 31, 2019

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