Trump To Sign Executive Order Giving DACA's 'Road To Citizenship', Amnesty

[69360]

We could make it hard to live so that they self deport. That's what their home country did. The left is using illegal immigration as a means to erode the meaning of American citizenship and define it as an artificial construct without real meaning. It's an easy way to roll back the bill of rights. Illegal immigrants shouldn't be able to have children with birthright citizenship either. They are making it harder for Americans to live and making them want to self deport.

No, these people came here largely because they want a better life and want to work hard. Why should we deny them that chance?

Give them a green card and get them legal.

Zero entitlements without citizenship.

It's really that simple.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

More caravans with children.

I'm betting late September and October will see a wave of crossings as the Summer heat wanes and before the election when Trump loses.

 

[olehounddog]

I say never in their life should they be allowed to vote in any election in the US. That privilege would go to their children born and raised in the US.

 

[RonZeplin]

More caravans with children.

I'm betting late September and October will see a wave of crossings as the Summer heat wanes and before the election when Trump loses.

This ^^^^^^^

+rep

 

[nikcers]

No, these people came here largely because they want a better life and want to work hard. Why should we deny them that chance?

Give them a green card and get them legal.

Zero entitlements without citizenship.

It's really that simple.

If they wanted a better life they should make their country better not make people like [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] want to self deport because it costs too much to live here. Some of them despise our country and our culture. Those arent the people you want immigrating here.

 

[69360]

More caravans with children.

I'm betting late September and October will see a wave of crossings as the Summer heat wanes and before the election when Trump loses.

The US border with Mexico is closed and is likely to stay closed.

I say never in their life should they be allowed to vote in any election in the US. That privilege would go to their children born and raised in the US.

You don't want immigrants to gain the right to vote when they become citizens? Wow that is a first on here.

If they wanted a better life they should make their country better not make people like [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] want to self deport because it costs too much to live here. Some of them despise our country and our culture. Those arent the people you want immigrating here.

None of this makes any sense. It's not expensive to live in the US. They came here for better jobs and a higher standard of living. I do want people who want to work hard and better themselves to live here.

 

[olehounddog]

You don't want immigrants to gain the right to vote when they become citizens? Wow that is a first on here.

That's the price for not following the already set path to citizenship.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

The US border with Mexico is closed and is likely to stay closed.

I don't see that as a deterrent. Kill the welfare state, including corporate welfare.

 

[nikcers]

The US border with Mexico is closed and is likely to stay closed.



You don't want immigrants to gain the right to vote when they become citizens? Wow that is a first on here.



None of this makes any sense. It's not expensive to live in the US. They came here for better jobs and a higher standard of living. I do want people who want to work hard and better themselves to live here.

Its expensive enough that [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] wants to leave America. Its causing damage to our public institutions because schools are more crowded kids don't get as much 1:1 time with their educator and that is causing a lack of an emotional connection with them leading to kids not taking the class or courses seriously. Its causing hospitals to be overcrowded and medicines to be more costly due to supply and demand. This actually causes people to die from lack of medicine or not being able to afford it and lower quality medicine causing medical malpractice that is covered up. Medical malpractice is common because it helps hospitals pay for things that are unfunded from giving out all the free medicine. Its causing people to have to learn spanish just to get an entry level starting job paying minimum wage.

 

[69360]

You don't want immigrants to gain the right to vote when they become citizens? Wow that is a first on here.

That's the price for not following the already set path to citizenship.

You do realize that the ones affected by DACA were brought here by their parents as children? They did nothing wrong and you want to punish them?

I don't see that as a deterrent. Kill the welfare state, including corporate welfare.

I don't support any welfare for immigrants, legal or illegal.

Its expensive enough that [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] wants to leave America. Its causing damage to our public institutions because schools are more crowded kids don't get as much 1:1 time with their educator and that is causing a lack of an emotional connection with them leading to kids not taking the class or courses seriously. Its causing hospitals to be overcrowded and medicines to be more costly due to supply and demand. This actually causes people to die from lack of medicine or not being able to afford it and lower quality medicine causing medical malpractice that is covered up. Medical malpractice is common because it helps hospitals pay for things that are unfunded from giving out all the free medicine. Its causing people to have to learn spanish just to get an entry level starting job paying minimum wage.

If these people all became legal and started paying taxes, they would support all those programs. There is nothing wrong with knowing Spanish. I can understand basic conversations.

 

[nikcers]

You do realize that the ones affected by DACA were brought here by their parents as children? They did nothing wrong and you want to punish them?



I don't support any welfare for immigrants, legal or illegal.



If these people all became legal and started paying taxes, they would support all those programs. There is nothing wrong with knowing Spanish. I can understand basic conversations.

As long as there is a government controlled artificially limited amount of teachers and doctors and drugs and nurses its going to diminish the quality of life and people are going to be underserved. Its like having a good fishing spot. If too many people come and fish there there will be no more fish. Its the tragedy of the commons. This is causing many Americans to feel displaced and commit suicide or go on drugs to treat their grief. This is causing people like [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] to want to leave their country. I shouldnt have to learn another language because a bunch of people decide to move to my country and not learn the language. You literally cant do that in any other country.

 

[nikcers]

Literally the main reason why big business wants unlimited immigration and H1B Visas is to depress wages. Its shrunk the middle class and blue collar jobs wages have depressed for years. They even get tax breaks for hiring two people for 12 dollars an hour instead of one person for 24 dollars an hour for a lot of times the same amount of work. The quality of the work is usually diminished as well.

 

[PAF]

[MENTION=61527]nikcers[/MENTION]

Costing too much is only one of many reason I want to leave.

1. I am an individual, who owes no allegiance to any group or government.

2. Costly, yes, because unions. I understand the want/need for unions, but a couple of things come to mind: the business owner should decide who and how much to pay, and what benefits to offer. Unions take dues whether you want to be a member or not. This battle is between the business owner and the unions so I will not meddle.

3. Costly, yes, because red-tape, permits, licenses which amount to government extortion.

4. This country is Fascist. There are ways to avoid that and I do a pretty good job of living under the radar, but there are still things that I do and would like to do and cannot skirt the system.

5. I have seen this country east to west, north to south and everything in-between. I have traveled outside of the country as well, and have met very wonderful people.

6. It is easier for me to live off-the-grid abroad, at least at the moment. I value the right to travel freely, not only for myself but others too. "Illegal" this, document that, papers please, green cards, work Visa's - all to FUND THE FED, which they have absolutely NO natural right to do unless a crime has been committed against person or property.


The simple solution to all of this is to get .Gov out of the affairs of business and individual person, and let the free market work it all out.


As for Trump tinkering with Executive Orders, DACA, etc., it is all hog-wash. Again, it is a way to Fund the Fed, restrict more of our freedoms, and meddle into the affairs of private business and people. Private Contract Rights, Private Property Rights, all by the way-side. Isn't it bad enough that Fascism has taken strong root over our healthcare, all because of Fed.gov?

 

[Swordsmyth]

You don't want immigrants to gain the right to vote when they become citizens? Wow that is a first on here.

That's the price for not following the already set path to citizenship.

I don't think any immigrants should get the right to vote, they shouldn't be able to come here and change us.
I think you should have to have at least one parent who was born here to be able to vote.

 

[unknown]

Trump won't do shit.

Our only hope is self deportation.

Why not go back to Mexico?

https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1857214206354899455

 

[Swordsmyth]

Trump won't do $#@!.

Utter nonsense.

 

[Swordsmyth]

This piece of garbage thread aged like manure.