Trump tells donors he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing

[acptulsa]

Nope, Trump was a great improvement over O'Bummer, possibly over baby shrub.
Trump was moving us in the right direction.

Possibly baby shrub of the PATRIOT Act? Possibly?

One thing about you party or die partisans -- you know how to damn the guy you're trying to sell with faint praise.

Tell me how we were more free in the last half of the teens than the first. More states legalized weed?

 

[Invisible Man]

I do so deny.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL

 

[spudea]

Tell me how we were more free in the last half of the teens than the first. More states legalized weed?

How about you tell me how a Liberty forum promotes drug warrior Bob Good for freedom Caucus chairman when he voted against marijuana decriminalization and is 100% for keeping it illegal and severely punished. Or how libertarians can support Ron Paul when he is a Republican and voted yes for the war in Afghanistan.

I already know the answer and I'll tell you, we have to take the good with the bad and keep making progress. Trump was progress, and you don't have to remind me of all the bad stuff he did in every thread. He was someone we could have influence with and work with to make things better in this country. That's not just my POV, practically every politician supported on this forum from the beginning feels the same way, only Amash went full TDS, everyone else endorses Trump.

 

[Snowball]

How about you tell me how a Liberty forum promotes drug warrior Bob Good for freedom Caucus chairman when he voted against marijuana decriminalization and is 100% for keeping it illegal and severely punished. Or how libertarians can support Ron Paul when he is a Republican and voted yes for the war in Afghanistan.

I already know the answer and I'll tell you, we have to take the good with the bad and keep making progress. Trump was progress, and you don't have to remind me of all the bad stuff he did in every thread. He was someone we could have influence with and work with to make things better in this country. That's not just my POV, practically every politician supported on this forum from the beginning feels the same way, only Amash went full TDS, everyone else endorses Trump.

Ron would have lost his seat. This explains:

https://news.yahoo.com/news/fmr-staffer-ron-paul-planned-no-vote-afghanistan-182357028.html

 

[Swordsmyth]

Possibly baby shrub of the PATRIOT Act? Possibly?

One thing about you party or die partisans -- you know how to damn the guy you're trying to sell with faint praise.

Tell me how we were more free in the last half of the teens than the first. More states legalized weed?

I am talking about the state of freedom under each, in spite of baby shrub being an evil and anti-liberty POTUS, things were better back then because of how much evil O'Bummer did.
I'm not going to claim that Trump successfully rolled things back to how they were under Slick Willy, or daddy shrub (two more super evil presidents but not as much evil had been done) let alone to Reagan or farther back, he didn't have enough power and support to do that.
But he definitely reversed much of what O'Bummer did.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Possibly baby shrub of the PATRIOT Act? Possibly?

One thing about you party or die partisans -- you know how to damn the guy you're trying to sell with faint praise.

Tell me how we were more free in the last half of the teens than the first. More states legalized weed?

I posted many threads about Trump's deragulation and other liberty improving accomplishments, I don't have to recite them all from memory just because you gaslight that they didn't happen.
The Waters of the United States reversal is a massive example that will suffice.

 

[acptulsa]

I am talking about the state of freedom under each, in spite of baby shrub being an evil and anti-liberty POTUS, things were better back then because of how much evil O'Bummer did.
I'm not going to claim that Trump successfully rolled things back to how they were under Slick Willy, or daddy shrub (two more super evil presidents but not as much evil had been done) let alone to Reagan or farther back, he didn't have enough power and support to do that.
But he definitely reversed much of what O'Bummer did.

You basically proved my point. Looks to me like you're saying that he undid Obama's damage (we still have Obamacare though). But you don't want to talk about how he financed the Jab, or how he set this dollar devaluation in overdrive by borrowing more than all previous administrations combined.

 

[TheCount]

I am talking about the state of freedom under each, in spite of baby shrub being an evil and anti-liberty POTUS, things were better back then because of how much evil O'Bummer did.
I'm not going to claim that Trump successfully rolled things back to how they were under Slick Willy, or daddy shrub (two more super evil presidents but not as much evil had been done) let alone to Reagan or farther back, he didn't have enough power and support to do that.
But he definitely reversed much of what O'Bummer did.

Could you give us a top 10 list of the things that he reversed?

 

[Swordsmyth]

You basically proved my point. Looks to me like you're saying that he undid Obama's damage (we still have Obamacare though). But you don't want to talk about how he financed the Jab, or how he set this dollar devaluation in overdrive by borrowing more than all previous administrations combined.

I've talked about all of that, and all of his good and bad actions many times.
Overall he did more good than bad and moved us in the right direction.
He'll do even more good this time.

O'Bummercare still being here is McCain's fault.

 

[acptulsa]

He'll do even more good this time.

Your record as an oracle is pretty poor.

Still plenty of gators in the swamp, for one example.