Trump says it doesn't matter if Soleimani posed an imminent threat

[angelatc]

Amazing how the world can flip on a dime. Iran is running peace keeping missions and the President needs approval to do anything:

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If you cared enough to fact-check yourself, you'd see that the Ron Paul supporters around here were angry about Obama's illegal actions as well. Because we aren't hypocritical homocidal psychopaths, nor do we support them.

 

[angelatc]

You can be a Bernie bro and not directly support Bernie.

You cannot be a Ron Paul supporter and support Trump any more.

 

[nikcers]

You cannot be a Ron Paul supporter and support Trump any more.

President Trump has used military force less than any other president since Jimmy Carter. You guys want to unwittingly or wittingly help him lose his reelection. You might as well be democrats larping as conservatives.

 

[jmdrake]

He said he believed that they would probably be targeted. He didn't specificially say those were the targets. Saying specifically what intelligence we had where potential adversaries can hear it not only advertises your capabilities but gives them a chance to potentially reverse engineer your methods or source. For example the source could be human intelligence. It could be an individual who works as a spy for the Iranian regime. Giving the Iranian regime information that potentially only your spy would know about would mean either death for that individual or they would potentially even give that spy bad information knowingly so that we would no longer get accurate information but would believe it to be accurate and give up a valuable resource that could cost lives of Americans or American allies.

So according to you telling Rand Paul and Mike Lee the specific intel is equal to telling Iran. Got it.

 

[jmdrake]

If you cared enough to fact-check yourself, you'd see that the Ron Paul supporters around here were angry about Obama's illegal actions as well. Because we aren't hypocritical homocidal psychopaths, nor do we support them.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to angelatc again.

 

[jmdrake]

You can be a Bernie bro and not directly support Bernie.

And you can just be an a$$. No qualification of that. You're just an a$$. Mr. "Trump is attacking the second amendment just to take away democratic talking points."

 

[nikcers]

So according to you telling Rand Paul and Mike Lee the specific intel is equal to telling Iran. Got it.

LOL they asked during the briefing. It wouldn't be just telling them. They also wouldn't have absolute certainty that they would've kept that information from getting to Iran or someone else who might value that intelligence. Maybe there is secret technologies involved that gives America a strategic advantage or maybe it involves human intelligence. Either way national security always deals in absolute certainty when dealing with intelligence or methods otherwise it could result in the absolute destruction of our country.

 

[nikcers]

And you can just be an a$$. No qualification of that. You're just an a$$. Mr. "Trump is attacking the second amendment just to take away democratic talking points."

Quit acting like your shit doesn't stink. Its an embarrassment.

 

[jmdrake]

Quit acting like your $#@! doesn't stink. Its an embarrassment.

You do stink. But you're not my a$$. You're the a$$ of the entire forum.

 

[jmdrake]

LOL they asked during the briefing. It wouldn't be just telling them.

If he wasn't lying he could give them their own briefing. But he's lying.

 

[nikcers]

If he wasn't lying he could give them their own briefing. But he's lying.

How do you know he is lying unless you are part of the military?? If you aren't than you are lying by saying he is lying.

 

[jmdrake]

How do you know he is lying unless you are part of the military?? If you aren't than you are lying by saying he is lying.

I'm going by his own self contradictions.

 

[nikcers]

I'm going by his own self contradictions.

So you are assuming things because it fits your narrative because you don't have any first hand knowledge otherwise. You are assuming he lied because he said that they were going to attack but even if he wasn't going to attack he was still a bad guy. Thats not even a contradiction. That's him saying hypothetically if he was lying it was justifiable. Its just a figure of speech. I always wonder why you are so bad at interpreting figures of speech.

 

[angelatc]

How do you know he is lying unless you are part of the military?? If you aren't than you are lying by saying he is lying.

Because historically, every single thing the people in the State Department / CIA / Intelligence Community has told us has a lie. SO far, there is no evidence to support anything they've said. The evidence we do have contradicts everything they've said. Therefore logically speaking, all the evidence thus far indicates we should not trust them. THanks for asking.

Now a question for you: Why do you still believe them?

 

[nikcers]

Because historically, every single thing the people in the State Department / CIA / Intelligence Community has told us has a lie. SO far, there is no evidence to support anything they've said. The evidence we do have contradicts everything they've said. Therefore logically speaking, all the evidence thus far indicates we should not trust them. THanks for asking.

Now a question for you: Why do you still believe them?

What evidence??

 

[angelatc]

What evidence??

Ah, answering a question with a question. I am not taking that bait. But what evidence, indeed?

Based on history, why do you believe them this time?

 

[angelatc]

What evidence??

Ah, answering a question with a question. I am not taking that bait. But what evidence, indeed?

Based on history, why do you believe them this time?

 

[RPtotheWH]

If you cared enough to fact-check yourself, you'd see that the Ron Paul supporters around here were angry about Obama's illegal actions as well. Because we aren't hypocritical homocidal psychopaths, nor do we support them.

I fact-checked myself. Everything in my post was factual. You started going on about Obama, meanwhile I didn't even say what Trump did was right. I'm laughing at the Iran Peace Mission narrative people are attempting to put out there now. So all this time they have been waving an olive branch and everyone missed it?

 

[angelatc]

I fact-checked myself. Everything in my post was factual.

Nope, it wasn't. Go away, neocon warmonger. These are non-intervention forums.

 

[jmdrake]

So you are assuming things because it fits your narrative because you don't have any first hand knowledge otherwise. You are assuming he lied because he said that they were going to attack but even if he wasn't going to attack he was still a bad guy. Thats not even a contradiction. That's him saying hypothetically if he was lying it was justifiable. Its just a figure of speech. I always wonder why you are so bad at interpreting figures of speech.

No dumba$$. I'm doing exactly what Rand Paul did when he said that the Trump administration is contradicting itself and trying to make a square a circle.