Trump repeats debunked voter fraud claim at meeting with Hill leaders

[CPUd]

Ryan Defies Trump on Illegal Immigrant Vote Claim


(AP) — The Latest on activities in Congress (all times EST):

Breaking with President Donald Trump, Speaker Paul Ryan says he has seen no evidence that 3 million to 5 million immigrants living in the U.S. illegally voted last November and cost the Republican the popular vote.

Ryan told reporters on Tuesday: “I’ve already commented on that I’ve seen no evidence to that effect.”

His comments came hours after Trump incorrectly claimed at a White House reception with congressional leaders, including Ryan, that he lost the popular vote to Democratic rival Hillary Clinton because of the vote by those here illegally.

That’s according to a Democratic aide familiar with the exchange who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the private meeting.

There is no evidence to support Trump’s claim.

Another Republican, Pennsylvania Rep. Charlie Dent, said Trump needs to move on. “The election is over,” Dent said, and Trump “won fair and square.” Trump needs to “get to the serious business of governing,” Dent said.

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House Speaker Paul Ryan says he has invited President Donald Trump to address a Joint Session of Congress on Feb. 28.

Ryan announced the invitation on Tuesday, informing reporters after a meeting with House Republicans. Ryan had met with Trump Monday night at the White House. Trump also met with Republican and Democratic congressional leaders on Monday.

Trump was sworn in as the 45th president on Friday. It would be his first speech to Congress.

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Congressional analysts are projecting that President Donald Trump has inherited a stable economy and a government that is on track to run a $559 billion budget deficit for the ongoing budget year.

The new estimates from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office also say the economy will hold relatively steady. Economic growth is projected to rise slightly to 2.3 percent this year and unemployment to average less than 5 percent for the duration of Trump’s term.

The latest CBO figures are in line with previous projections. They come as Trump and Republicans controlling Congress are working to repeal much of former President Barack Obama’s signature health care law, boost the Pentagon budget, and reform the loophole cluttered tax code.

Balancing the budget would require cuts to domestic agencies and big health programs like Medicare.

https://www.teaparty.org/ryan-defies-trump-illegal-immigrant-vote-claim-214654/

 

[Jamesiv1]

Glad to see both the Senators and the MSM is once again focusing on the important issues and events, and not distracting us with more trivial and irrelevant pointlessness.

Good post.

"You must spread some reputation around..."

 

[angelatc]

Bingo.

Zip and I already went around the mulberry bush on this.

One study 3 million had voted, the other that zero percent of the voting bloc was comprised of undocumented immigrants voting.

Zero?

Seriously?

They claim that this "debunks" the first study:



Like Gunny just stated, you are trying to prove the unknowable...an illegal act of which no official records are kept.

Freaking ridiculous on the face of it.

But arguing a point that makes absolutely no sense. They are here illegally. They openly flaunt every law, because so far in their experience government will eventually modify the law to accommodate them.

Thinking they are not breaking THIS law doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't they vote?

 

[Ender]

Bingo.

Zip and I already went around the mulberry bush on this.

One study 3 million had voted, the other that zero percent of the voting bloc was comprised of undocumented immigrants voting.

Zero?

Seriously?

They claim that this "debunks" the first study:



Like Gunny just stated, you are trying to prove the unknowable...an illegal act of which no official records are kept.

Freaking ridiculous on the face of it.

'Zackly- so why is Trump still on it? He won- he's in the WH- just move on.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Fake news.

 

[CPUd]

'Zackly- so why is Trump still on it? He won- he's in the WH- just move on.

Apparently his feels were hurt. Donald needs a safe space from the press.

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/823619473601077248

 

[unknown]

His insecurity over "winning" the election makes sense when you consider that he doesnt believe in the electoral college.

 

[angelatc]

Can't directly copy your link but in it's conclusion it states that the non-citizen voting rate was quite small.

https://www.scribd.com/document/332...&source=impactradius&medium=affiliate&irgwc=1

Here's their conclusion, and the source of the oft-cited 2.8 million:

Taking the least conservative measure e at least one indicator showed that the respondent voted e yields an estimate that between 7.9% and 14.7% percent of non-citizens voted in 2008. Since the adult noncitizen population of the United States was roughly 19.4 million (CPS, 2011), the number of non-citizen voters (including both uncertainty based on normally distributed sampling error, and the various combinations of verified and reported voting) could range from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum.

 

[Ender]

Here's their conclusion, and the source of the oft-cited 2.8 million:

The problem is the word "could".

 

[TheTexan]

3 million illegals voted causing Trump to lose the popular vote. Period.

This is an alternative fact.

MAGA.

He has lots of sources for this, great sources. You wouldn't believe, how many sources he has for this

 

[Anti Federalist]

'Zackly- so why is Trump still on it? He won- he's in the WH- just move on.

It's how the man is.

I know the personality type.

 

[angelatc]

It's how the man is.

I know the personality type.

Yeah. This will either be the key to his success or key in his eventual downfall. He can't let ANYTHING go.

 

[Superfluous Man]

The dems have a near monopoly on voter fraud and have for some time. Was it 3 million? 2 million? 500k? Who knows.

The answer to that question makes a world of difference.

Is even 500,000 even within the realm of possibility? Or is it more like 1,000?

 

[CPUd]

 

[timosman]

CPU go home!

 

[seapilot]

I do not honestly understand how voter fraud can be 'debunked,' when we are largely prohibited by law from collecting the evidence required to support it. Maybe it's a myth, maybe it's true, who knows? As long as Uncle Sam continues to prohibit the identification of voters, we will never have a control group from which to produce analyses.

Hammer meet nail. No way to conclusively prove or debunk the illegal voter. Dead people voting can be discovered easily as that is recorded, as well as ballot box stuffing. Both actions the democrats have been caught red handed in the most recent election.

 

[Zippyjuan]

How exactly was the survey flawed data?

14% of non-citizens said they were registered to vote.

Then Harvard comes out and says zero illegal aliens voted.

Who has more credibility here?

Think, McFly, think.

The person who collected the data that was based on said they contacted the people who claimed in the online survey that they were not citizens and voted. All said they clicked the wrong button in the survey. In different parts of the same survey they indicated they were citizens and in another part that they were not. (this was on the radio so I have no link at the moment).

 

[CPUd]

There's a video of the survey author in an interview as well.

 

[dannno]

The person who collected the data that was based on said they contacted the people who claimed in the online survey that they were not citizens and voted. All said they clicked the wrong button in the survey.

lol.. 14.4% of people and they all clicked the wrong button?

You do realize they were admitting to a crime, correct?

I can only imagine if they did an online survey about drug use, "Do you use cocaine?", and they contacted the people who said "Yes" to make sure that they do in fact use cocaine, and make sure that all of the other information on the survey is correct.. What do you think would happen in that case, zippo?? I'll tell you what would happen. The SAME THING would happen. And the study's author would have to come out and say, "Welp, we did an online survey and found that 2% of respondents use cocaine.. But we contacted them to verify and they all said they pressed the wrong button. So, even though there are hundreds of billions of dollars of cocaine that flow into the country every year, we found in fact that 0% of the population does cocaine. Isn't that fucking intesting?"

You gotta think these things through a little more, zip.

 

[dannno]

There's a video of the survey author in an interview as well.

OMG a video!! WOW!!!!!