Trump: Rand Paul 'negative force' on fixing health care Graham-Cassidy Bill is GREAT!

[dannno]

It's good for Trump because Trump doesn't actually care about healthcare and just wants to look like an effective leader. I don't know how it's good for everyone else though.

Maybe because you are looking at it from the perspective that the first sentence you wrote is actually correct.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

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...leaked transcripts of every FOX/dannno broadcast for the next 3 years.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Seems to be the opposite of what our resident Trump soothsayers said.

Thanks, Soros soothsayer!

 

[Zippyjuan]

I disagree with Trump here, this is Obamacare lite. I agree with Rand wholeheartedly to vote no on Graham-Cassidy Bill.

Under Reconciliation rules (which is how they are trying to get it through), they can only try to change the parts of Obamacare which directly impact the budget- they can't use this tactic to get rid of the whole thing so "Obamacare Lite" is the best they can do. The other problem is that the Reconciliation Rule on Obamacare runs out on the 30th. After that, any bill will require at least 60 votes, instead of the 50 they can pass one with now. Time is running out. This is their last shot. (If they actually pass a new budget, they can try reconciliation sometime in the future again). There isn't time to get a Congressional Review of the impact the bill may have.

If only one other Senator joins Rand in voting no, nothing will be passed and Obamacare stay as it is.

 

[TheTexan]

We have to pass a bill, or Republicans will lose seats in next cycle.

And we wouldnt want that, obviously.

 

[William Tell]

We have to pass a bill, or Republicans will lose seats in next cycle.

And we wouldnt want that, obviously.

You sound subdued. It's not just a bill, it's a GREAT bill POTUS said so.

 

[TheTexan]

You sound subdued. It's not just a bill, it's a GREAT bill POTUS said so.

Clearly you've never read Art of the Deal, every tweet is a negotiation and you have to read his tweets in that context.

This bill is just one chess move of many to get us closer to a truly Great free healthcare bill

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Time is running out. This is their last shot.

LOL!

 

[Zippyjuan]

LOL!

Do you think they can get 60 votes on a bill ten days or more from now when they can't get the 50 they need now?

 

[William Tell]

This is their last shot.

Cut the bullshit. And look at the dates on these two articles, everybody.

Ryan: This is the last chance to repeal Obamacare


By KYLE CHENEY
03/09/2017 12:56 PM EST

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-last-chance-235877

Ryan: Graham-Cassidy 'best, last chance' to repeal ObamaCare

By Scott Wong - 09/18/17 07:24 PM EDT

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/351270-ryan-graham-cassidy-best-last-chance-to-repeal-obamacare

 

[Swordsmyth]

Do you think they can get 60 votes on a bill ten days or more from now when they can't get the 50 they need now?

They can kill the filibuster any time they want.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Do you think they can get 60 votes on a bill ten days or more from now when they can't get the 50 they need now?

Do you think you could be any more dramatic?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Cut the bull$#@!. And look at the dates on these two articles, everybody.


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-last-chance-235877

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/351270-ryan-graham-cassidy-best-last-chance-to-repeal-obamacare

One date matters- that is September 30th, end of the fiscal year.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/d...e-repeal-bill-expires-sept-30/article/2633213

Deadline for fast track Obamacare repeal bill expires Sept. 30

Republicans have until Sept. 30 to repeal Obamacare with only 51 votes in the Senate under the current budget resolution, further complicating the GOP's attempts to try again after a failed attempt in late July.

The Senate Parliamentarian ruled on Friday that the procedural tool called reconciliation, which Republicans hoped to use to bypass a filibuster in the Senate, expires on Sept. 30. Reconciliation allows a Senate bill to be advanced with only 51 votes instead of the 60 votes that are usually needed.


The GOP passed a budget resolution back in January that sets up the instructions on how to pass a healthcare bill through reconciliation. The procedural tool has some restrictions for using the budget pathway, including that legislation must slightly reduce the deficit and include only items that impact budget and spending levels.

But that resolution and reconciliation instructions expire on Sept. 30 at the end of the federal fiscal year, which means the fast-track tool for passing Obamacare repeal also expires then.

To continue to use reconciliation past that deadline, Republicans would have to pass a new budget resolution after Sept. 30.

 

[Zippyjuan]

They can kill the filibuster any time they want.

If they can get 60 votes to do so. Republicans would need ten Democrats to join them.

 

[William Tell]

Do you think they can get 60 votes on a bill ten days or more from now when they can't get the 50 they need now?

That's not the question. The question is whether Graham's bill is the last and only chance to address Obamacare. The answer is clearly no. The establishment vowed they wouldn't come back to healthcare right after the last vote and here they are again already.

 

[William Tell]

One date matters- that is September 30th, end of the fiscal year.

Republicans have until Sept. 30 to repeal Obamacare with only 51 votes in the Senate under the current budget resolution, further complicating the GOP's attempts to try again after a failed attempt in late July.


To continue to use reconciliation past that deadline, Republicans would have to pass a new budget resolution after Sept. 30.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/d...e-repeal-bill-expires-sept-30/article/2633213

Oh, the horror. What an impossible hurdle.

 

[Zippyjuan]

That's not the question. The question is whether Graham's bill is the last and only chance to address Obamacare. The answer is clearly no. The establishment vowed they wouldn't come back to healthcare right after the last vote and here they are again already.

In theory, yes, they could pass a new bill after that. But after September 30th, they need to pick up ten Democrats to vote with them to do so. Not gonna happen. They can't get 50 votes right now. Think picking up ten more votes will be easy?

 

[Swordsmyth]

If they can get 60 votes to do so. Republicans would need ten Democrats to join them.

No they wouldn't.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Regarding process, the GOP majority could at any time deploy the "nuclear option" and end the filibuster, permanently or just for a specific bill.

They don't because then they'd have to find another excuse for their conscious choice to not undertake any meaningful reforms.

 

[The Northbreather]

Hint #1

When Trump wants something to happen, there is often resistance.


Hint #2

Have you EVER in your entire life heard Trump tweet out, "Me and this other guy are great friends, but he is totally screwing us over right now!" (Please cite examples)

So disparaging an honest senator for doing what's right by NOT going along with bad legislation is just some form of completely obvious rudimentary reverse psychology.

Gotcha.

Cmon broseph