Trump/Pence could win Arizona, Nevada . . . maybe NY and even Florida (?)

[tod evans]

Oh maybe I just do not believe he is the 2nd coming of Hitler.



No, its a nation security/act of self preservation program.

The cost of a border fence is around 7-10 Billion and a one time cost vs the 100 Billion plus dollar burden that happens every year and employees welfare/case workers, cops, prison guards, multi lingual teachers, public defenders, translator, etc. So you can clearly see one is less costly then the other, and one is a one time cost/burden while one is a never ending recurrence.

So less crime, lower taxes, lower cost of living, more people working, fewer welfare users, fewer leftist voters (always a great thing), not sure why you can not understated or accept this, but it will happen and you will benefit from it non the less.

This post shows a total and complete lack of understanding of government, finances and the "Just-Us" system.

Reading with comprehension is your friend, try it sometime...

Maybe before making posts such as this.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Even if stopping illegal immigration could bring the economic benefits you think, a border fence would not accomplish that. It would have practically no impact, and it would cost far more than you're saying, both in the initial cost and ongoing cost after that.

The data says otherwise, along with a reduction in the numbers of visas and exit/entry tracking it will work to greatly reduce illegal immigration, but hey lets do nothing, because that will fix everything.

This post shows a total and complete lack of understanding of government, finances and the "Just-Us" system.

Reading with comprehension is your friend, try it sometime...

Maybe before making posts such as this.

We have tried it your way for too long, this ends and it ends now with us securing our border, country, and future. If that means a few autistic people spreg out or Latin America has to deal with their failed cultures/political systems so be it.

 

[tod evans]

We have tried it your way for too long, this ends and it ends now with us securing our border, country, and future. If that means a few autistic people spreg out or Latin America has to deal with their failed cultures/political systems so be it.

My way?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Again with the "we"? You are one person, you're not speaking for a group no matter how many voices are in your head.

I suggested reading and comprehending because of the uninformed post I responded to, the one where you falsely claim that building a wall will curtail government spending.

All actions taken by government only increase spending and reduce freedom.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

My way?

What the $#@! are you talking about?

Again with the "we"? You are one person, you're not speaking for a group no matter how many voices are in your head.

I suggested reading and comprehending because of the uninformed post I responded to, the one where you falsely claim that building a wall will curtail government spending.

All actions taken by government only increase spending and reduce freedom.

So by taking no action to secure the border/reduce immigration spending has not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or No?

 

[tod evans]

So by taking no action to secure the border/reduce immigration spending has not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or No?

Google translations are difficult to follow sometimes.

Please speak to a someone whose primary language is English and have them translate your query into comprehensible English.

How in the world can you exist in day to day life and afford to maintain an internet connection?

Could be you're one of those people who rely on government largess for sustenance...

The farmers in Vidalia Ga. are hiring now, if you truly want to displace an immigrant and get yourself off the dole you could go pick onions..

Hey! Maybe one of the other workers could help you with sentence structure, grammar and spellin'......

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Google translations are difficult to follow sometimes.

Please speak to a someone whose primary language is English and have them translate your query into comprehensible English.

How in the world can you exist in day to day life and afford to maintain an internet connection?

Could be you're one of those people who rely on government largess for sustenance...

The farmers in Vidalia Ga. are hiring now, if you truly want to displace an immigrant and get yourself off the dole you could go pick onions..

Hey! Maybe one of the other workers could help you with sentence structure, grammar and spellin'......

So by your recommended course of action which is doing noting, has government spending not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or no?

 

[tod evans]

So by your recommended course of action which is doing noting, has government spending not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or no?

Where have you read my "recommended course of action"?

Just kindly cut-n-paste, I'll wait.

 

[tod evans]

Well it's been 10 minutes now?

I've got to go fire up the compressors and turn the shop on.

Can't sit here waiting on you to cut-n-paste my "recommended course of action" any longer.

Don't worry though, I'll check back later.

Your superior IQ and those other personas that constitute the "we" you continually speak of should make this task a much simpler endeavor than phrasing coherent sentences.

 

[Occam's Banana]

So by your recommended course of action which is doing noting, has government spending not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or no?

This has been asked and answered - repeatedly.

I know this is like replying to a brick wall, but I'm of a mood to do it anyway.

All one has to do is cut-n-paste ...

And did we not do nothing for the last 30 plus years [...]

No, we did not. And we have been "not do[ing] nothing" for a LOT longer than just "the last 30 plus years."

[...] and didnt that course of actions cause the current cluster fuck?

I already told you what "course of actions cause[d] the current cluster fuck."

Are you really this oblivious? Or are you just pretending to be obtuse?

In either case, allow me to repeat myself - with emphasis:

All those "law passed by Congress to straighten out [some] mess" (Federal Reserve system, income taxation, welfare entitlements, etc., etc. ad infinitum et nauseam) are exactly how we got into "this" mess in the first place.

But by all means, keep dong the same thing over and over while expecting different results ... I'm sure this time it will be different ...

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

This has been asked and answered - repeatedly.

I know this is like replying to a brick wall, but I'm of a mood to do it anyway.

All one has to do is cut-n-paste ...

And your plan to fix things is?

 

[tod evans]

I'm not Occam but I'll jump on in here before asking you to address your blatant mischaracterization/misrepresentation...

And your plan to fix things is?

I suggested reading and comprehending because of the uninformed post I responded to, the one where you falsely claim that building a wall will curtail government spending.

All actions taken by government only increase spending and reduce freedom.

Okay now......

This morning you scampered off like a whipped pup.

Get your copy-n-paste finger all warmed up and put up or shut up...

My way?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Again with the "we"? You are one person, you're not speaking for a group no matter how many voices are in your head.

I suggested reading and comprehending because of the uninformed post I responded to, the one where you falsely claim that building a wall will curtail government spending.

All actions taken by government only increase spending and reduce freedom.

Where have you read my "recommended course of action"?

Just kindly cut-n-paste, I'll wait.

Well it's been 10 minutes now?

I've got to go fire up the compressors and turn the shop on.

Can't sit here waiting on you to cut-n-paste my "recommended course of action" any longer.

Don't worry though, I'll check back later.

Your superior IQ and those other personas that constitute the "we" you continually speak of should make this task a much simpler endeavor than phrasing coherent sentences.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I'm not Occam but I'll jump on in here before asking you to address your blatant mischaracterization/misrepresentation...









Okay now......

This morning you scampered off like a whipped pup.

Get your copy-n-paste finger all warmed up and put up or shut up...

So your plan is do nothing? Well then you have no right to whine about others taking actions.

 

[tod evans]

So your plan is do nothing? Well then you have no right to whine about others taking actions.

Good God!

Where have I ever typed that?


Are you honestly this dense?

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Good God!

Where have I ever typed that?


Are you honestly this dense?

What are your solutions.

 

[nikcers]

So by taking no action to secure the border/reduce immigration spending has not increased and freedom not decreased? Yes or No?

I don't know about you, but the fact that we have done nothing about this has caused a massive increase in immigration and to that effect there is a taco shop on every corner, and there is a beater truck driving 50 miles per hour on every highway almost every time i get on the highway and there is always a bunch of lawn mowers and clippers in the back. The fact that we stopped backing the dollar by gold has really done the economy in, we don't have any way of maintaining our economy without using force in the middle east and other countries to rig the economy to benefit us. This is worse then having the entire population of Mexico move here.

Tell me more about how the government is going to fix the problem they caused again? Condescendingwonka.jpg

 

[Occam's Banana]

And your plan to fix things is?

Jesus H. Christ on a hopped-up Harley with Santa in a sidecar!

You really are a stuck record who doesn't pay even the slightest bit of attention to anything anyone ever says to you, aren't you?

In the very post to which you just replied, I quoted a reply I had made to you in another thread, where I had already addressed your fatuously naive notion that "all it will take is a law passed by Congress to straighten this mess out."

If your "plan to fix things" requires the FedGov to "fix things" for you, then your "plan" is ludicrous and laughable.

Given the track record they've established for well over a century now, why in the ever-loving fuck should anyone want anything to do with any "solution" or "plan to fix things" that might come out of the traitorious, oath-breaking hive of scum and villainy that is otherwise known as the "United States federal government" ... ?

And as for my "plan to fix things," I apparently must once again repeat, with emphasis, what I've already told you at least once before:

Doing nothing would be an excellent solution, if any solution was possible. But it isn't. All the people who yap about how "all it will take is a law passed by Congress to straighten this mess out" have screwed things up so badly [over the course of the last century and more] that they'll never be unscrewed - not until the country finally comes apart at the seams ...

In other words: there is no "fixing things." Not yet. Not until, for example, Idaho finally decides that it's had enough of all the bullshit and that Florida - not to mention any and all federal jackals, in D.C. or elsewhere - no longer gets to have any goddam say over what Idaho does or doesn't do, or how it does or doesn't do it.

Who the hell are you (or your neighbors, or your town or city, or your state) to tell me (or my neighbors, or my town or city, or my state) what "we" ought or ought not to do about immigration or trade or this or that or the other thing? Where the hell do you get off trying to pull shit like that? You should just butt the fuck out and mind your own goddam business (and let us mind ours).

What's my "plan to fix things?" I have no "plan to fix things" - certainly not in the bullshit "one size fits all" "we just need Congress to pass yet another law" way that you obviously mean. That's exactly how we got into this mess in the first place.

And why should I even want to have such a "plan" anyway? After all, who the hell am I (or my neighbors, or my town or city, or my state) to tell you (or your neighbors, or your town or city, or your state) what "you" ought or ought not to do about immigration or trade or this or that or the other thing? Where the hell do we get off trying to pull shit like that? We should just butt the fuck out and mind our own goddam business (and let you mind yours).

With one-third of a billion human beings living in the "United States" of America, there ain't no one-size-fits-all "plan to fix things" - and there ain't ever gonna be ... (and the sooner all you people who like to go on about how "all it will take is a law passed by Congress" finally get around to figuring that out, the better things will be for everyone ...)

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I don't know about you, but the fact that we have done nothing about this has caused a massive increase in immigration and to that effect there is a taco shop on every corner, and there is a beater truck driving 50 miles per hour on every highway almost every time i get on the highway and there is always a bunch of lawn mowers and clippers in the back. The fact that we stopped backing the dollar by gold has really done the economy in, we don't have any way of maintaining our economy without using force in the middle east and other countries to rig the economy to benefit us. This is worse then having the entire population of Mexico move here.

Tell me more about how the government is going to fix the problem they caused again? Condescendingwonka.jpg

You left out how it has effect the political landscape and voter base. What good is a Ron Paul if the nation has been flooded with so many welfare voters via immigration and our own stock that he can not be elected and restore the Gold Standard.

 

[tod evans]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.

I need some help here, Occam has more patience with this guy than a saint.

 

[tod evans]

What are your solutions.

Solution part 1;

Convince complete idiots that government has intentionally caused these problems and is intent on growing itself in order to 'fix' them.


This is much harder than it sounds........

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Solution part 1;

Convince complete idiots that government has intentionally caused these problems and is intent on growing itself in order to 'fix' them.


This is much harder than it sounds........

So nothing that works, or will have a real effect on anything, thank you for proving my point.