Trump new campaign manager says deportation force "to be determined"

[jmdrake]

This isn't from the "liberal media" or the "neocons" or from the "globalists" or from "Univision" or anyone else who you that might have a motivation to lie against Donald Trump. This comes from Trump's newest campaign manager. And if she's lying then why doesn't Trump tell her "You're fired?"

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Trump-Deportation-Immigration-Kellyanne-Conway/2016/08/21/id/744487/
Donald Trump's vow to form a "deportation force" to deal with the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants isn't yet a formal part of the GOP nominee's immigration policy, new campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said Sunday.

In an interview with CNN's "State of the Union," Conway asserted Trump's comments at a meeting with Hispanic supporters in New York on Saturday "differed very little from what he's said publicly… that we need a 'fair and humane' way of dealing with illegal immigrants.

"What he supports… [is] making sure that we enforce the law, that we are respectful of those Americans who are looking for well-paying jobs and that we are fair and humane for those who live among us in this country," she said. "As the weeks unfold… he will lay out the specifics of that plan that he would implement as president of the United States."

Pressed on whether that plan would include a deportation force, Conway replied: "To be determined."


Oh and even anti immigration stalwart Jeff Sessions is being coy about whether or not Trump is really serious about mass deportation.

That’s the intriguing possibility coming from the Trump campaign on the weekend. Mr. Trump met Saturday with his new Hispanic advisory council and attendees told the press the candidate seemed to be moving in that direction. Univision reports that three attendees said Mr. Trump “plans to present an immigration plan in Colorado Thursday that will include finding a way to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants.”

Trump advisers Kellyanne Conway and Sen. Jeff Sessions didn’t deny the reports on Sunday. “What I’m certain about is that he did not make a firm commitment yesterday, or the meeting the other day, about what he will do with that,” Mr. Sessions said on CBS ’s “Face the Nation.” “But he did listen, and he’s talking about it.”

So what's going on? Likely Trump's campaign is putting out what are known as "trial balloons." Trump has to see if softening his stance on immigration will hurt him with his base more than it will help him gain the independent votes that he must have in order to beat Hillary in battleground states. The smart thing for Trump to do is to just go forward with throwing the hard core supporters under the bus as they have no where else to go anyway. I find this all quite amusing.

 

[notsure]

Sounds like he's coming around to something similar to Rand's plan; to allow illegals here the opportunity to stay on work visas, but increase border security to prevent further illegal immigration.
Didn't Trump also shift on his "muslim ban" and come up with something similar to Rands plan to restrict travel from areas of high radical Islamic terrorism and increase background checks on travelleers even coming from Europe?

 

[spudea]

What he has always said is to enforce the law. That means anyone here illegally is subject to deportation. When crybaby losers started saying to him "you can't deport these people OMG what are you saying", he gave the President Ike example of a deportation force. WE ALREADY HAVE A DEPORTATION FORCE CALLED ICE.

Conway deferred by saying "TBD" because she is not as skilled with communicating in a non politically correct way the truth about our current situation.

Enforcing the law automatically means expanding and enhancing the deportation activities.

 

[TheCount]

Conway deferred by saying "TBD" because she is not as skilled with communicating in a non politically correct way the truth about our current situation.

The person who is in charge of the Trump campaign's communications is not skilled at communicating?

 

[CaptUSA]

I hope you Trump supporters are ready for this...

(Of course, you'll probably convince yourselves that this wasn't a bait and switch and that you really like the hairy guy because it's what you've always wanted...)

 

[RJB]

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[Occam's Banana]

The person who is in charge of the Trump campaign's communications is not skilled at communicating?

Impossible! Trump only hires the best people. The best ...

 

[CPUd]

from today:

Trump said in an interview with "Fox & Friends" on Monday that he was "working with a lot of people in the Hispanic community to try and come up with an answer."

"We want to come up with a really fair, but firm answer. It has to be very firm. But we want to come up with something fair," he said.

This seems odd, because to his base, he already had the answer. He ran on the answer.

 

[spudea]

The person who is in charge of the Trump campaign's communications is not skilled at communicating?

Its not politically correct to say deportation force even though we already have one. Conway is PC thus cannot bring herself to say we already have a deportation force.

Trump is not politically correct so he can say the truth.

 

[nikcers]

Its not politically correct to say deportation force even though we already have one. Conway is PC thus cannot bring herself to say we already have a deportation force.

Trump is not politically correct so he can say the truth.

That makes so much more sense now, since Trump is not a politician he doesn't use double speak and says the truth but when he contradicts himself its because the media is being PC.

 

[RonPaulMall]

So what's going on? Likely Trump's campaign is putting out what are known as "trial balloons." Trump has to see if softening his stance on immigration will hurt him with his base more than it will help him gain the independent votes that he must have in order to beat Hillary in battleground states. The smart thing for Trump to do is to just go forward with throwing the hard core supporters under the bus as they have no where else to go anyway. I find this all quite amusing.

He won't change his mind because there is nothing to gain. Republicans almost universally favor Trump's position. Independents overwhelmingly favor Trump's position. Even Democrats are pretty much split down the middle. The only group down on enforcing the law are the corporate elites, globalists, the mainstream media, and Democratic Partisans. And besides being numerically insignificant, none of those groups will vote for him no matter his position on immigration anyway.

 

[jmdrake]

The person who is in charge of the Trump campaign's communications is not skilled at communicating?

LOL. Exactly. Trump hired her presumably because he cares more about winning than he does pleasing the immigration zealots that got him through the primary as they have no choice but to vote for him anyway.

 

[jmdrake]

He won't change his mind because there is nothing to gain. Republicans almost universally favor Trump's position. Independents overwhelmingly favor Trump's position. Even Democrats are pretty much split down the middle. The only group down on enforcing the law are the corporate elites, globalists, the mainstream media, and Democratic Partisans. And besides being numerically insignificant, none of those groups will vote for him no matter his position on immigration anyway.

If independents were overwhelmingly in favor of his position then why isn't he already overwhelmingly winning swing states? The new rhetoric, which was really there all along for those paying attention (Trump saying "I'm going to bring back the good illegals rapidly"), is important for Trump to win the battleground states. Expect more of it. I'm glad Trump is doing it. As much as I despise Trump I don't want Hillary to win. Him throwing people immigration zealots under the bus is just an added bonus.

 

[jmdrake]

Its not politically correct to say deportation force even though we already have one. Conway is PC thus cannot bring herself to say we already have a deportation force.

Trump is not politically correct so he can say the truth.

LOL. So Trump "cannot tell a lie" so he hires some else to lie for him?

Here's Trump "speaking the truth" that you can't handle.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...o-bring-back-good-illegal-immigrants-rapidly/
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said, “we have a lot of really good people. They’re illegal. Now, you either have a country or not. We go out, and we’re going to try and bring them back rapidly, the good ones,” and “the good people are going to be able to come back, but they’re going to come back legally” in an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press,” new portions of which were broadcast on Monday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Rundown with Jose Diaz-Balart.”

And note that I'm quoting from breitbart which is hardly a bastion of liberal political correctness.

 

[RandallFan]

He's still not to the left of Rand Paul; who wanted to sell out Kentucky's residents to pander to hispanics, he thought.


Trump is not going to get anything passed on immigration anyway in the first term or if ever, it's a more a longer term issue than Trump 2017-2025

 

[RandallFan]

If independents were overwhelmingly in favor of his position then why isn't he already overwhelmingly winning swing states?

Because it's not the main issue. It's only the 5th major issue.

If your first 4 issues are crap like Gary Johnson or Rand Paul then that candidate has problems.

 

[jmdrake]

Because it's not the main issue. It's only the 5th major issue.

If your first 4 issues are crap like Gary Johnson or Rand Paul then that candidate has problems.

 

[jmdrake]

He's still not to the left of Rand Paul; who wanted to sell out Kentucky's residents to pander to hispanics, he thought.


Trump is not going to get anything passed on immigration anyway in the first term or if ever, it's a more a longer term issue than Trump 2017-2025

You know if you hate Rand so much you could ask Bryan to let you change your login from "RandallFan" to something else. Just saying.

 

[RandallFan]

I'm a fan of rand except on his immigration & ways he has handled talking to blacks.

He sounds meaner than Trump to the blacks when he insults & condescends to them.

You cant run in a Republican primary, insult semi-informed Republicans & then talk about how well informed the un-informed buffoons of BLM are.

First of all you have to find some metric to see how many blacks & blacks wont might swing actually care or follow BLM/Sharpton.

I read somewhere only 40 or 50% of blacks support BLM & you're only chasing 10 or 20% at most at the way other end of the spectrum in the general.

You can't have your first 5 issues as less-than-immediate issues; & then run to the Neocon side of Trump on some foreign policy.

The immediate threat is neocons starting World War 3. Only Trump either had enough publicity or for whatever reason addressed that.

You can't ignore Dave Brat, & then he wins; claim Rand's filibuster was the reason he won.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-c...l-to-focus-on-senate-re-election-2015-10?IR=T

"I wanted to support him because he's the real deal, but his strategy is just awful," continued Heavin, the founder of the health club franchise Curves. "He is going to be a very, very effective senator."

EDIT, sidenote: I thought Alex Jones shit on Curves all the time.

Trump's big issues:

1. No cutting freebies to anyone any time soon. Great politics. No one cares if a candidate is going to balance the budget in 5 or 20 years.
2. No rush to approve Trade deals. Read the bill/details. Wait a year or 2. There's no rush.
3. No new wars.
4. Be nice to Putin & others.
5. some other stuff

 

[spudea]

LOL. So Trump "cannot tell a lie" so he hires some else to lie for him?

Here's Trump "speaking the truth" that you can't handle.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...o-bring-back-good-illegal-immigrants-rapidly/
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said, “we have a lot of really good people. They’re illegal. Now, you either have a country or not. We go out, and we’re going to try and bring them back rapidly, the good ones,” and “the good people are going to be able to come back, but they’re going to come back legally” in an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press,” new portions of which were broadcast on Monday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Rundown with Jose Diaz-Balart.”

And note that I'm quoting from breitbart which is hardly a bastion of liberal political correctness.

Good. He is saying enforce the law and turn over illegals to immigration services, who are already empowered to deport these people.