Trump might be our only hope to destroy the two party stronghold and media

[jllundqu]

I know trump has said some crazy things, but he might be the only person left to destroy the two party system stronghold over the election and the media's influence on the election. His election could pave the way for him to allow third party's to get attention in the future and also help create a more fair and alternative media.

I've been against supporting Trump and have been for Rand, but I'm having second thoughts on Trump because of the above.

What do you guys think?

My god man.... use your intellect, not your emotions. Exercise some god damned critical thinking skills. Trump is a textbook narcissist/authoritarian. Give THAT man the reigns of power?? Not on my god damn watch.

The ends do not justify the means. Electing a tyrant to remove an oligarchy is what you are considering. Think about that.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

my 2 cents.. we KNOW Rubio is establishment's Jr. bush.. and we KNOW Cruz is a phony teocon propped up by goldman sachs and CFR... Donald has the ability to be independent and not cowtow to special interests... my first time voting was in 1992 for Ross Perot and although perot and trump are diametric opposites in their campaign style im going to have to go with trump as he has the capability to be a very great presdent.. he could be a schmuck but ill take the chance on a successful businessman

 

[CaptUSA]

I don't think the media is against him. I can't say for sure and you may be right, but what if Trump is deceiving the media and ends up being a friend to liberty? After all, he went on the Alex Jones show, but then if he's not for liberty or alternative politics, then why did he go on the Alex Jones show?

Oh wow...

Seriously, read post #13 again.

Some of you folks are so easily led by the nose. Put your own head in the guillotine, but don't take mine with you, please.

 

[WQuantrill]

A little background on what Trump is pitted against.......

https://www.intellihub.com/trump-catches-attention-of-cfr-bilderberg-trilateral/

Globalism, at one level, is all about erasing tariffs.

Whether in a momentary fit, or by serious intent, Trump has crossed swords with the Globalists.
President Nixon tried that for a few moments in the early 1970s, and betrayed his main sponsor, David Rockefeller. Nixon erected a few tariffs to save American-based companies.

Rockefeller was and is Globalism personified.
Soon, Nixon found himself on a helicopter heading away from the White House for the last time.

Trump might want to think about pumping up his security detail.
He’s just stumbled into the Twilight Zone where money makes money for money making money. Trump $$$ is nothing compared with Globalist $$$.
He’s just pulled the pin on a quiescent grenade in the world of mainstream media, where the subject of tariffs is a no-no.

 

[CaptUSA]

my 2 cents.. we KNOW Rubio is establishment's Jr. bush.. and we KNOW Cruz is a pony teocon propped up by goldman sachs and CFR... Donald has the ability to be independent and not cowtow to special interests... my first time voting was in 1992 for Ross Perot and although perot and trump are diametric opposites in their campaign style im going to have to go with trump as he has the capability to be a very great presdent.. he could be a schmuck but ill take the chance on a successful businessman

Ugh... yet another.

Trump's special interest is Donald Trump. How does that give him the capability to be a good "presdent"?! He wants power. He craves it. Do you think someone like will use that power benevolently?! Even if you do, is that really what you want?!

For crying out loud, people... Wake UP!!

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Ugh... yet another.

Trump's special interest is Donald Trump. How does that give him the capability to be a good "presdent"?! He wants power. He craves it. Do you think someone like will use that power benevolently?! Even if you do, is that really what you want?!

For crying out loud, people... Wake UP!!

trump isnt our ideal candidate.. however Id rather someone doing things he feels is best for the country than someone doing things thats best for the globalists.

 

[Indy Vidual]

I disagree. Cruz is a snake in the grass, we KNOW he is a slimey weasel, Goldman Sachs, CFR, Bush cabinet toolbag sent to destroy the liberty movement.

Trump I haven't figured out what his motivations are, for certain, yet. Maybe he is running to get Hillary elected, maybe he is running to keep Rand from winning, maybe he is running as an anti-establishment candidate to suck up anti-establishment votes and he was sent by the establishment to do so. Or maybe he is a billionaire funding his own campaign, playing the media like a fiddle and actually wants to be "greedy for America" after all those years of "being greedy for himself" like he claims.

I certainly am not supporting Trump, but at least there is a tiny, microscopic chance that Trump is not a total snake in the grass while we know with 100% certainty that Cruz is.

...but Trump is also a racist wind-bag.

 

[WQuantrill]

trump isnt our ideal candidate.. however Id rather someone doing things he feels is best for the country than someone doing things thats best for the globalists.

We have 3 choices as I see it:

(1) submit to the globalists
(2) push Trump so he can make enough of an uproar and in the process wake up more sheep. Make the globalists react and do something dumb.
(3) prepare for war

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Yes, it's possible. Trump is not on the CFR Roster. Trump's ego is so large that if he is robbed, he will destroy the entire system. I'm dead serious. Just look at his recent twitter barrage with Cruz over the questionable conduct in Iowa.

So let's say that Trump destroys the two-party system? What does he replace it with? Does he create a new party that takes the worst parts of the Republican and Democrat platforms?

I disagree. Cruz is a snake in the grass, we KNOW he is a slimey weasel, Goldman Sachs, CFR, Bush cabinet toolbag sent to destroy the liberty movement.

Trump I haven't figured out what his motivations are, for certain, yet. Maybe he is running to get Hillary elected, maybe he is running to keep Rand from winning, maybe he is running as an anti-establishment candidate to suck up anti-establishment votes and he was sent by the establishment to do so. Or maybe he is a billionaire funding his own campaign, playing the media like a fiddle and actually wants to be "greedy for America" after all those years of "being greedy for himself" like he claims.

I certainly am not supporting Trump, but at least there is a tiny, microscopic chance that Trump is not a total snake in the grass while we know with 100% certainty that Cruz is.

I think Cruz might at least do a few good things. I'm also much less worried about my second amendment rights under a Cruz administration.

Trump is unpredictable. While Cruz will mostly be business as usual, Trump probably has new programs, new taxes, and possibly new wars planned.

 

[K466]

Trump is one scary dude... the way he can rile up the masses to go with any crazy idea that no one else would have dared say before him, the way he is a strong leader... he could be quite the authoritarian president. He is also so wrong on so many things... trade for example... there is simply no legitimate reason to vote for Trump. He's not anti-establishment, he is a slightly different establishment. There is nothing pro-liberty about that.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

A little background on what Trump is pitted against.......

https://www.intellihub.com/trump-catches-attention-of-cfr-bilderberg-trilateral/

Tariffs should be kept as low as we can. It's bad economics to raise tariffs.

 

[ProBlue33]

I want everybody here to think what 2017 looks like with a President Trump and UN General secretary Obama.

How would you like that ?

 

[EBounding]

Whoa, not even close!

If anything, by supporting Trump, you would be justifying and validating the media's influence on the election! They've given this guy billions of dollars of free advertising, and yet people still think that the media is against him. I wish I could just shake some sense into you folks.

I swear, it's almost like Trump's followers are infected with something.

 

[ProBlue33]

But Bush needs to drop out and stop embarrassing himself look at this, so pathetic.

 

[WQuantrill]

I swear, it's almost like Trump's followers are infected with something.

Do you realize that the media is covering Trump so they can denigrate him? ha ha. Look at the rich guy with bad hair that is going against the established order & ministry of truth. The problem is that this strategy has backfired. The clown is no longer a clown. This entire system is insane and Trump, strangely enough, is one of the sane ones.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Do you realize that the media is covering Trump so they can denigrate him? ha ha. Look at the rich guy with bad hair that is going against the established order & ministry of truth. The problem is that this strategy has backfired. The clown is no longer a clown.

How does Trump threaten the establishment?

 

[WQuantrill]

How does Trump threaten the establishment?

Martin Wolf, associate editor of the Financial Times said it best:

“Nativist populists must not win. We know that story: it ends very badly. In the case of the US, the outcome would have grave global significance. America was the founder and

remains guarantor of our global liberal order. The world desperately needs well-informed US leadership. Mr Trump cannot provide this. The results could be catastrophic,” writes Wolf, adding that, “If western elites despise the concerns of the many, the latter will withdraw their consent for the elite’s projects.”

According to many elites, the United States must lead the merger of this coming social and economic order. The emergence of Trump and others like him suspends such plans, since he's viewing issues purely through the narrow prism of the United States.

 

[Spikender]

Do you realize that the media is covering Trump so they can denigrate him? ha ha. Look at the rich guy with bad hair that is going against the established order & ministry of truth. The problem is that this strategy has backfired. The clown is no longer a clown. This entire system is insane and Trump, strangely enough, is one of the sane ones.

Trump is part of the establishment. It's all a ploy to paint him as an outsider when really he's up to his eyeballs in establishment politics. He's a Clinton ally and he's made no bones about it in the past. He is a Trojan Horse and so many, even people on this website, are being duped by him. Listen to the guy speak. He knows nothing about how to run a country, barely understands our founding documents or laws, and is going to get murdered if he has to debate Clinton or Sanders. Clinton will just talk about how Trump is her bestie and Sanders has been in politics for ages, knows how to speak eloquently, and will annihilate anything Trump throws at him.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

...no way of proving it...but...

...had [stinking] alex jones uttered every other foaming sentence/word he's uttered in the last year EXCEPT his 'endorsement' for trump...and instead had uttered 'rand paul' instead of 'donald trump' in his 'endorsement'...many more people here would be sucking jones' arse instead of pissing on him now...

(hint for dummies:...alex jones sucks like a hoover vacuum cleaner no matter who the f@cking phony endorses!...)

 

[twomp]

I'm not supporting Cruz, but supporting Cruz makes a lot more sense than supporting Trump.

Why because you are tired of having a Goldman Sachs candidate representing to the GOP? So your answer is support Cruz... another Goldman Sachs candidate?